Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte - SOLVED
I managed to install and run MDK9.1 on a P100 with 64Mbyte RAM and a 300Mbyte Conner HD. I found out that the problem I had with the installation program crashing was apparently due to the kernel turning DMA on for my drive. I solved this passing the ide=nodma argument on the linux command line (you get there by typing the F1 key at spash screen). I'm using this system only as an mp3 player (only text tools). CPU usage is around 30% while decoding, swap space (30Mb) is never used, installation takes approx 150Mbyte of disk. I'll try to reduce RAM to 32Mbyte or less, to speed up the bios boot. Keep trying, it can be done :-) raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte - SOLVED
On Monday 17 November 2003 01:10 pm, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I managed to install and run MDK9.1 on a P100 with 64Mbyte RAM and a 300Mbyte Conner HD. I found out that the problem I had with the installation program crashing was apparently due to the kernel turning DMA on for my drive. I solved this passing the ide=nodma argument on the linux command line (you get there by typing the F1 key at spash screen). I'm using this system only as an mp3 player (only text tools). CPU usage is around 30% while decoding, swap space (30Mb) is never used, installation takes approx 150Mbyte of disk. I'll try to reduce RAM to 32Mbyte or less, to speed up the bios boot. Keep trying, it can be done :-) raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. rather than reduce the ram, why not set the bios to not count the ram at boot? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte - SOLVED
I wish I could :-) That bios does not have an evident way to skip the memory test. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 01:10 pm, Raffaele Belardi wrote: rather than reduce the ram, why not set the bios to not count the ram at boot? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte
10/23/03 Hello Raffaele, This may have worked for me, it may work for you. Go into your BIOS and turn off (disable) any Shadow Ram on your machine. On a PII 350MHz with 128MB RAM, it seems to be working. (Although I still get some X Window failures on re-login in after installing new packages. I restart the computer, do all the file system fixes suggested during bootup, and everything comes back fine in X Windows, running the Gnome desktop.) Hope this Helps, The Other Stephen Stubbs Champaign, IL USA On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:57:15 +0200 Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte
I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent distribution. I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts. raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:57 pm, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. raffaele Hi Raffaele, I installed mdk9.0 in P233 MMX, 64MB. Complete with X and stuffs. It was a success, but the performance was very slow with X. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 14:34:06 up 7:04, 10 users, load average: 1.58, 1.61, 1.59 Quote of the day: Windows NT: Only 64 megs needed to play Minesweeper! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/lOHnMai9kCFqACoRAq4qAKCEPJMGEysMSiYoAk0qhklyHy9NlACffBEr /PklxOT4A51Sdo9UOpQmEKE= =q/XK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:57 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent distribution. I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts. raffaele I do not believe that 32 mb is enough to do an install with 9.1. Minimum would be 64mb. It may work on rare occasions, but not as a rule. Sorry. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte
Well, I tried because the intall.txt file on the 9.1 cd1 says 32Mbyte RAM is the minimum, I'm beginning to have doubts now! Any hint on how to make it work with that little memory? One thing I might try is to attach the drive to a bigger system, install 9.1 from there and then move the disk to the P100. That will require some /etc reconfiguring, but it should work. What do you think? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:57 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent distribution. I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts. raffaele I do not believe that 32 mb is enough to do an install with 9.1. Minimum would be 64mb. It may work on rare occasions, but not as a rule. Sorry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte
hi Thomas, i can't help with your problem, but i can tell you that 9.1 installs and runs pretty ok on a 64mb ram machine, as long as you dun try to run KDE (and prolly Gnome, but i've never tried.) since it crashes after installing packages, you may wanna try install the absolute minimal number of packages to get a working system. (including urpmi of course, if it isn't defaulted) once you get that, you can install anything you wan, since there is now a swap partition. but try to keep with memory efficient apps. since you've only 64mb ram, try to install with more swap. the usual advice is 1.5x physical ram or 2x, but maybe in your case you can try 192mb or 256mb swap. it doesn't improve performance, but at least your system has a lower chance of crashing due to running out of memory. - Original Message - From: Thomas Rudolfsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 22:43 Subject: Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte I tried with my pentium 100 with no sucess(both text and low resolution install). First with 40Mb Ram and then with 64Mb. Same error both times I think. Cant remember now but I used Alt+F2, F3 or F4 or Alt+som number then I saw some error messages. It crashes at the end of the installation of packages. I cant help but I'm interested if there is a solution because I would like to use it sometimes. \Thomas On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent distribution. I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts. raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com