Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
Considering that there are two releases a year, and buying a box each time will cost about $60, the Silver gives you the best value for the year, IMO, and it is better for Mandrake because the profit margin is higher than on a box. I am not sure but I do not think so many people are willing to update their systems twice a year. For me, I have sticked to 9.1 for about two years and just I shifted to 10 recently. I believe people having similar ideas like me are not a small number. We only update our systems when major relseases are available. Of course we may update certain software before this kind main update. So, I suggest that, if possible, Mandrake can set up a kind of flexible membership other than the existing bronze, silver, gold ones. I mean people can contribute to Mandrake whatever number (surely of money) they want, what they get may be limited download numbers (e.g., 5 or 10 times a year) or nothing at all. I believe some people would like this one. To be honest after downloading 9.1 I planned to contribute some to Mandrake, but when I found the least is $60, I gave up. Man, I must trust me $60 is not a small number for a student. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
Even for old dudes in our fifties and working full-time, $60 is not insignificant. What "commercial" software is available via these memberships? I am looking primarily for answering machine/voice mail/fax software, but am interested in what else is available to members, but not to me as a non-member. Thanks, Tom Ewald"Q.H. Wang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that there are two releases a year, and buying a box each time will cost about $60, the Silver gives you the best value for the year, IMO, and it is better for Mandrake because the profit margin is higher than on a box.I am not sure but I do not think so many people are willing to update their systems twice a year. For me, I have sticked to 9.1 for about two years and just I shifted to 10 recently. I believe people having similar ideas like me are not a small number. We only update our systems when major relseases are available. Of course we may update certain software before this kind main update. So, I suggest that, if possible, Mandrake can set up a kind of flexible membership other than the existing bronze, silver, gold ones. I mean people can contribute to Mandrake whatever number (surely of money) they want, what they get may be limited download numbers (e.g., 5 or 10 times a year) or nothing at all. I believe some people would like this one. To be honest after downloading 9.1 I planned to contribute some to Mandrake, but when I found the least is $60, I gave up. Man, I must trust me $60 is not a small number for a student.Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comJoin the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 04:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Thomas Ewald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even for old dudes in our fifties and working full-time, $60 is not insignificant. My personal rule-of-thumb is, When does the value of the gain exceed what I've paid? Problem is that I gain more every day than I've paid both mdk and this list. $60 is not insignificant but a very small price, indeed. The two Windows progs I still have to use require upgrades at the tune of at least $150 each per year. That won't get any better. I remember when maintaining the os and the progs was a 700.00 year easily (as a household user). We all accepted that as the way things are. In retrospect, $60.00 is insignificant. With that, I have to add that the commercial progs are usually available elsewhere. If you expect to be buying programs with Club membership, you're barking up the right tree for the wrong reason. $0.02 Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
I am not sure but I do not think so many people are willing to update their systems twice a year. I agree with this. Mandrake Club is a good idae but if you have a very bad/slow modem connection, I shudder to think how long it would take to download the whole system. bad enough with the upgrades. Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
On Tuesday 17 Aug 2004 12:19, Thomas Ewald wrote: Even for old dudes in our fifties and working full-time, $60 is not insignificant. What commercial software is available via these memberships? I am looking primarily for answering machine/voice mail/fax software, but am interested in what else is available to members, but not to me as a non-member. Thanks, Tom Ewald Q.H. Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that there are two releases a year, and buying a box each time will cost about $60, the Silver gives you the best value for the year, IMO, and it is better for Mandrake because the profit margin is higher than on a box. I am not sure but I do not think so many people are willing to update their systems twice a year. For me, I have sticked to 9.1 for about two years and just I shifted to 10 recently. I believe people having similar ideas like me are not a small number. We only update our systems when major relseases are available. Of course we may update certain software before this kind main update. So, I suggest that, if possible, Mandrake can set up a kind of flexible membership other than the existing bronze, silver, gold ones. I mean people can contribute to Mandrake whatever number (surely of money) they want, what they get may be limited download numbers (e.g., 5 or 10 times a year) or nothing at all. I believe some people would like this one. To be honest after downloading 9.1 I planned to contribute some to Mandrake, but when I found the least is $60, I gave up. Man, I must trust me $60 is not a small number for a student. Do not be under any illusion. Mandrake Club membership does not give you many 'monetary' advantages. It is really just a way for people who would otherwise buy boxed sets to use the download edition and still contribute back. Yes it entitles you to discount on commercial packages available from Mandrake Store as described here http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1294mode=nocomments and here http://store.mandrakesoft.com/index.php?cPath=25osCsid=1543ed2a2adb6f8ce3600fc98663150d and you can also download any of the commercial packages from the Powerpack CD, but these downloadable packages are all available from elsewhere, (such as Opera, Acrobat, Flash, or Sun Java), or are time limited or in some other way limited trial versions (such as Win4Lin) For your Fax software you could use Hylafax, or Efax from the download edition, or there is Fax2Send from MandrakeClub Commercial downloads. I have never used it but I think the Fax2Send package is fully functional, but limited in the number of users or something. http://www.fax2send.com/fax2send/page/home.html For many people $60 is a lot of money, but there is always the download edition. Mandrake are good members of the GPL community. The download edition is not limited in any way, and MandrakeSoft really do not mind if people use it. They would rather people downloaded Mandrake for free than some other distro. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mandrake Club
Hello All, Well my time is running out on the free stuff with the purchase of Mandrake 10.0. I really love Linux and setting up my office has not been that tough. Thank you to all who have answered my pleas for help, you have done a great job of KISS (keep it simple stupid). You know who you are. I'm thinking about joining the Mandrake Club but really not sure what level I should join. Here's the question: I have been bitten by the Linux bug and want to know which level of the Mandrake Club would give me the most benefits and the Club too (win - win). All comments are very much appreciated. bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
On Monday 16 Aug 2004 22:09, BJ Tracy wrote: Hello All, Well my time is running out on the free stuff with the purchase of Mandrake 10.0. I really love Linux and setting up my office has not been that tough. Thank you to all who have answered my pleas for help, you have done a great job of KISS (keep it simple stupid). You know who you are. I'm thinking about joining the Mandrake Club but really not sure what level I should join. Here's the question: I have been bitten by the Linux bug and want to know which level of the Mandrake Club would give me the most benefits and the Club too (win - win). All comments are very much appreciated. bj Linux is 'free' software, where free refers to freedom not price. It is quite possible to spend your entire life downloading the free download version without ever paying a penny for your software. However it still costs money to write the software and produce a distro. If you like the product MandrakeSoft have produced, you may like to contribute some money to compensate them for the effort. Buying a boxed set of CDs is one way of compensating them, but in that case most of the money will go to the retailer and distributor of the boxes. Joining MandrakeClub as a Bronze member will cost about the same as a boxed set, but will put all that money in MandrakeSofts account. You will be entitled to download all of the software on the Powerpack commercial edition, and you will be able to download iso images of the next edition (10.1) several weeks before they are available for public download. To be honest silver and gold membership do not give many more benefits. They simply enable you to pay more money in gratitude. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
On Monday 16 August 2004 05:51 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: Here's the question: I have been bitten by the Linux bug and want to know which level of the Mandrake Club would give me the most benefits and the Club too (win - win). All comments are very much appreciated. bj Linux is 'free' software, where free refers to freedom not price. It is quite possible to spend your entire life downloading the free download version without ever paying a penny for your software. However it still costs money to write the software and produce a distro. If you like the product MandrakeSoft have produced, you may like to contribute some money to compensate them for the effort. Buying a boxed set of CDs is one way of compensating them, but in that case most of the money will go to the retailer and distributor of the boxes. Joining MandrakeClub as a Bronze member will cost about the same as a boxed set, but will put all that money in MandrakeSofts account. You will be entitled to download all of the software on the Powerpack commercial edition, and you will be able to download iso images of the next edition (10.1) several weeks before they are available for public download. To be honest silver and gold membership do not give many more benefits. They simply enable you to pay more money in gratitude. derek Thanks, bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club
On Monday 16 August 2004 06:44 pm, BJ Tracy wrote: Joining MandrakeClub as a Bronze member will cost about the same as a boxed set, but will put all that money in MandrakeSofts account. You will be entitled to download all of the software on the Powerpack commercial edition, and you will be able to download iso images of the next edition (10.1) several weeks before they are available for public download. To be honest silver and gold membership do not give many more benefits. They simply enable you to pay more money in gratitude. Actually, I think Silver and higher gives you the PowerPack iso's, but you can still download the commercial apps with bronze. Makes it a little harder to install, because you have to configure some of your hardware manually. Considering that there are two releases a year, and buying a box each time will cost about $60, the Silver gives you the best value for the year, IMO, and it is better for Mandrake because the profit margin is higher than on a box. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mandrake Club and KDE 3.1
Wow, I just finished d/lg the Mandrake KDE 3.1 packages from the club site, using the cl and urpmi and it went very well. First time I tried that on the club test site. Now looking over the new KDE and so far it is not bad, nothing appears broken. Some fiddling to see the kmail folders screen, but otherwise it looks pretty good. Gonna look for the +'s now. Fun. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club and KDE 3.1
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:16:40 -0600 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I just finished d/lg the Mandrake KDE 3.1 packages from the club site, using the cl and urpmi and it went very well. First time I tried that on the club test site. Now looking over the new KDE and so far it is not bad, nothing appears broken. Some fiddling to see the kmail folders screen, but otherwise it looks pretty good. Gonna look for the +'s now. Fun. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 I liked the implementation of tabbed browsing in konqueror myself :) Jerry -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Club urpmi.addmedia fails
I have tried several times to get the Club addmedia url added to my rpmdrake and have failed each time (6 total). Is there a trick to it. I put my nickname in as lower case, should it be all upper case as the example shows? Any one have a suggestion as to what I might be doing wrong. TIA for some pointers. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Club
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=2446forum=4 http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=1026forum=4 http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=1308forum=4 You might want to add some comments and possiably vote for these rpms requested for development at mandrake club. -- 12:06am up 14:25, 6 users, load average: 0.10, 0.17, 0.13 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Club Mirror finder for rpmdrake
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Mirrors How to configure URPMI or RPMDRAKE to use web resources for parsing avalible Mandrake Compiled Applications. What this means is the thousands of different programs that have been bundled into RPM's for MDK, and are whearhoused on a servers hard drive on the internet. Can be integrated and linked into your software manager. So after adding the appropriate source this link assists you in doing, you can simply querie in rpmdrake for a specific app, say openoffice provided your lists are uptodate it will show you all the results matching openoffice, you can then select what you want, and urpmi will automagically take care of any dependencies (those apps where one program depends on another). Viola, openoffice and all associated components are installed. Verry Cool Huh!!1 so take the time to configure this, besides updating your lists you only need to add them once. (and if you really fall in love with this become a club member for more bennifits) Enjoy, This Mandrake tip brought to you by www.hasty-solutions.com -- 12:16am up 14:35, 6 users, load average: 0.11, 0.07, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 6:19 am, Erik Farnsworth wrote: On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 00:09, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Second, nobody suggested that visitors be denied access. My suggestion is that visitors be encouraged to invest in either a club membership or get a boxed set, depending of course on their individual finances. ...and those who simply have no money and can't afford to invest in a boxed set OR the club--for whatever reason? Should they move on to another distro? The gist of my point is that there *is* a freeloader problem out there and it can only be addressed politely through community influence. If nobody takes any action at all then nothing's going to happen. Maybe you can politely (if not arrogantly)tell the freeloaders with money to 'ante up' without alienating those who cannot afford to 'pay up'...or should they go away, too? --LX I think many of us feel that those who can pay, should, without denying access to those who can't. How to accomplish this is something that politicians have been puzzled about for a very long time. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 01:19, Erik Farnsworth wrote: On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 00:09, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Second, nobody suggested that visitors be denied access. My suggestion is that visitors be encouraged to invest in either a club membership or get a boxed set, depending of course on their individual finances. ...and those who simply have no money and can't afford to invest in a boxed set OR the club--for whatever reason? Should they move on to another distro? Like I said, depending on their individual finances. If they can't afford it, then they can't afford it. That's the point. The gist of my point is that there *is* a freeloader problem out there and it can only be addressed politely through community influence. If nobody takes any action at all then nothing's going to happen. Maybe you can politely (if not arrogantly)tell the freeloaders with money to 'ante up' without alienating those who cannot afford to 'pay up'...or should they go away, too? I don't know why it's so hard to concieve of people out there who can pay but don't. That is the thrust of all this. If the person doesn't have the finances, then they need the advantage of a free download and virtually no cost. That's the whole reason why the free download and virtual no cost option exists; the poor folks. I thought that was a forgone conclusion and not something that needed to be elaborated on. We aren't talking about the poor folks here. We're talking about the freeloaders. The point that is being made that free software is not free; there's blood and sweat going into this distro, there's people that loved and worked for this company, and had to be sacrificed for the sake of the survival of the distro, and there's the survivors going home every night from Mandrake wondering seriously about their future and their groceries. Plus they are working their asses off cause there aren't enough people there to handle the workloads anymore; *that* happens to be the NOT FREE part. For those that have the finances and are making use of Mandrake every day without giving anything back, that's called freeloading. The real arrogance around here is taking somebody else's hard earned blood work and using it to your advantage when you have the money to supply support but don't when people are being laid off and the Mandrake club is out there for the cost of a magazine subscription. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 11:45 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I don't know why it's so hard to concieve of people out there who can pay but don't. That is the thrust of all this. If the person doesn't have the finances, then they need the advantage of a free download and virtually no cost. That's the whole reason why the free download and virtual no cost option exists; the poor folks. I thought that was a forgone conclusion and not something that needed to be elaborated on. We aren't talking about the poor folks here. We're talking about the freeloaders. The point that is being made that free software is not free; there's blood and sweat going into this distro, there's people that loved and worked for this company, and had to be sacrificed for the sake of the survival of the distro, and there's the survivors going home every night from Mandrake wondering seriously about their future and their groceries. Plus they are working their asses off cause there aren't enough people there to handle the workloads anymore; *that* happens to be the NOT FREE part. For those that have the finances and are making use of Mandrake every day without giving anything back, that's called freeloading. The real arrogance around here is taking somebody else's hard earned blood work and using it to your advantage when you have the money to supply support but don't when people are being laid off and the Mandrake club is out there for the cost of a magazine subscription. I don't understand this either. Yes, there will be a few some people out there who genuinely can't afford it, and hardship circumstances should be a contingency. But Mandrake isn't that expensive. A magazine subscription, ONE dinner out, a couple of movies, a new hardback book... is that really so much to ask someone to give up for supporting something they believe in? Sure, it's 'free' and open source, but the economy of the 1990s that led to the huge surge in OSS isn't there anymore; business models need to be viable today in order to continue. If you like what Mandrake does, both with software and corporate policy, then support them. Otherwise - of course there are other distros out there. My next investment is either 9.0 once the boxed set arrives here in the heartland, or waiting for my gf's cd burner to arrive and burning my own copy, then using the money I would have spent on the box into the Club. Regards, David Reynolds -- Three things which bring dignity to a person: discretion in their speech; contentment in the life they lead; peacefulness among their neighbors. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Saturday 04 Jan 2003 6:09 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 15:53, Charles A Edwards wrote: On 04 Jan 2003 07:17:07 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't that be construed as unfair to those that are using MDK but not wanting to shell out the USD for club membership? They obviously have not seen the latest MandrakeClub Newsletter Begin quote: * Then there is the question of merging MandrakeForum and MandrakeClub. Most of the technical problems have already been solved, and within a few days MandrakeForum will be completely obsolete. To make sure that everyone who cares about Mandrakesoft and Mandrake Linux has an account on MandrakeClub, we will give away one month of free trial MandrakeClub membership to everyone who purchased anything from Mandrake Store in the past. These folks will have the possibility to either renew their membership, or at least keep the alumni membership for as long as they keep coming to MandrakeClub from time to time. End quote. To me every and anyone should be allowed to to visit the club anytime and as often as they like. Remember as visitors there are areas of the club to which they do not have access, but all forums and News should be available to everyone. Charles Several observations here. One, Denis's newsletter was not targeting visitors; it was saying that those peeps that purchased from the Mandrake store should be rewarded for their efforts. Further, that the reward would only be for the period of a month; and that is solely in order that the new member be encouraged to invest in a membership, which will greatly assist Mandrake in their public services. Second, nobody suggested that visitors be denied access. My suggestion is that visitors be encouraged to invest in either a club membership or get a boxed set, depending of course on their individual finances. The gist of my point is that there *is* a freeloader problem out there and it can only be addressed politely through community influence. If nobody takes any action at all then nothing's going to happen. --LX Having said all that, I don't always bother to log in - especially if it's only a quick pop-in. Perhaps those of us that are members should take the trouble, so that at least the statistics are more realistic and one can be sure of the size of problem. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 January 2003 05:35, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 04 Jan 2003 6:09 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 15:53, Charles A Edwards wrote: On 04 Jan 2003 07:17:07 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't that be construed as unfair to those that are using MDK but not wanting to shell out the USD for club membership? They obviously have not seen the latest MandrakeClub Newsletter Begin quote: * Then there is the question of merging MandrakeForum and MandrakeClub. Most of the technical problems have already been solved, and within a few days MandrakeForum will be completely obsolete. To make sure that everyone who cares about Mandrakesoft and Mandrake Linux has an account on MandrakeClub, we will give away one month of free trial MandrakeClub membership to everyone who purchased anything from Mandrake Store in the past. These folks will have the possibility to either renew their membership, or at least keep the alumni membership for as long as they keep coming to MandrakeClub from time to time. End quote. To me every and anyone should be allowed to to visit the club anytime and as often as they like. Remember as visitors there are areas of the club to which they do not have access, but all forums and News should be available to everyone. Charles Several observations here. One, Denis's newsletter was not targeting visitors; it was saying that those peeps that purchased from the Mandrake store should be rewarded for their efforts. Further, that the reward would only be for the period of a month; and that is solely in order that the new member be encouraged to invest in a membership, which will greatly assist Mandrake in their public services. Second, nobody suggested that visitors be denied access. My suggestion is that visitors be encouraged to invest in either a club membership or get a boxed set, depending of course on their individual finances. The gist of my point is that there *is* a freeloader problem out there and it can only be addressed politely through community influence. If nobody takes any action at all then nothing's going to happen. --LX Having said all that, I don't always bother to log in - especially if it's only a quick pop-in. Perhaps those of us that are members should take the trouble, so that at least the statistics are more realistic and one can be sure of the size of problem. Anne With most modern browsers you can do site-specific cookie policies. In other words, you could enable cookies only for those few domains that you trust, and that you actually need them for, eg. Mandrakeclub. Makes life simpler than logging in all the time. Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FwIxgzJdfX+cTW8RAjEEAKCPzWTRbgqIz2GXNFGDp24ROLzgPACbBqVG XMKtDwkddCr5+GmFmGwaKZ8= =Rzgk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 00:09, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Second, nobody suggested that visitors be denied access. My suggestion is that visitors be encouraged to invest in either a club membership or get a boxed set, depending of course on their individual finances. ...and those who simply have no money and can't afford to invest in a boxed set OR the club--for whatever reason? Should they move on to another distro? The gist of my point is that there *is* a freeloader problem out there and it can only be addressed politely through community influence. If nobody takes any action at all then nothing's going to happen. Maybe you can politely (if not arrogantly)tell the freeloaders with money to 'ante up' without alienating those who cannot afford to 'pay up'...or should they go away, too? --LX -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
After all of the recent proclamations of undying support for Mandrake, why are there (nearly) alway more guests than members online ? -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Friday 03 Jan 2003 3:33 pm, Poogle wrote: After all of the recent proclamations of undying support for Mandrake, why are there (nearly) alway more guests than members online ? Possibly because unless you use automatic login it's not worth the trouble for much of the time. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:33, Poogle wrote: After all of the recent proclamations of undying support for Mandrake, why are there (nearly) alway more guests than members online ? -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Very good question, Poogle. Why don't we go online and start asking them in the club forums? --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 11:09, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 03 Jan 2003 3:33 pm, Poogle wrote: After all of the recent proclamations of undying support for Mandrake, why are there (nearly) alway more guests than members online ? Possibly because unless you use automatic login it's not worth the trouble for much of the time. Anne Maybe so, but for me, having paid for membership, I kinda like to log in and post to the forums as myself, so I don't give anyone the idea that I'm freeloading. That way I can contact friends if the opportunity presents itself, ask questions as a known member, etc etc. Logging in makes the whole point to everyone that you cared and were concerned enough to pay. I also think that there *are* alot of freeloaders taking advantage of the open nature of the club. I don't think beginners should be run off, but those guys that have been doing the guest thing for over several months should be looked at. I don't know how to delineate except to ask them. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 04:32, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:33, Poogle wrote: After all of the recent proclamations of undying support for Mandrake, why are there (nearly) alway more guests than members online ? -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Very good question, Poogle. Why don't we go online and start asking them in the club forums? --LX Wouldn't that be construed as unfair to those that are using MDK but not wanting to shell out the USD for club membership? -- Sat Jan 4 07:15:01 EST 2003 7:15am up 3 days, 13:44, 3 users, load average: 0.24, 0.27, 0.27 kuhn media australia - kma.0catch.com - stephen kuhn - katherine kuhn - berkeley, nsw, au email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 5483808 - mobile: 0410-728-389 -PC/Mac/Linux/Consulting/eMarketing- * linux user: 267497 * rh 7.3+ * Scully: You said it once yourself. Once you said that a dream is an answer to a question we haven't learned how to ask yet. You do good work Mulder. The X-Files: Paper Hearts Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On 04 Jan 2003 07:17:07 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't that be construed as unfair to those that are using MDK but not wanting to shell out the USD for club membership? They obviously have not seen the latest MandrakeClub Newsletter Begin quote: * Then there is the question of merging MandrakeForum and MandrakeClub. Most of the technical problems have already been solved, and within a few days MandrakeForum will be completely obsolete. To make sure that everyone who cares about Mandrakesoft and Mandrake Linux has an account on MandrakeClub, we will give away one month of free trial MandrakeClub membership to everyone who purchased anything from Mandrake Store in the past. These folks will have the possibility to either renew their membership, or at least keep the alumni membership for as long as they keep coming to MandrakeClub from time to time. End quote. To me every and anyone should be allowed to to visit the club anytime and as often as they like. Remember as visitors there are areas of the club to which they do not have access, but all forums and News should be available to everyone. Charles A 'full' life in my experience is usually full only of other people's demands.-- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.20-2mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 15:53, Charles A Edwards wrote: On 04 Jan 2003 07:17:07 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't that be construed as unfair to those that are using MDK but not wanting to shell out the USD for club membership? They obviously have not seen the latest MandrakeClub Newsletter Begin quote: * Then there is the question of merging MandrakeForum and MandrakeClub. Most of the technical problems have already been solved, and within a few days MandrakeForum will be completely obsolete. To make sure that everyone who cares about Mandrakesoft and Mandrake Linux has an account on MandrakeClub, we will give away one month of free trial MandrakeClub membership to everyone who purchased anything from Mandrake Store in the past. These folks will have the possibility to either renew their membership, or at least keep the alumni membership for as long as they keep coming to MandrakeClub from time to time. End quote. To me every and anyone should be allowed to to visit the club anytime and as often as they like. Remember as visitors there are areas of the club to which they do not have access, but all forums and News should be available to everyone. Charles Several observations here. One, Denis's newsletter was not targeting visitors; it was saying that those peeps that purchased from the Mandrake store should be rewarded for their efforts. Further, that the reward would only be for the period of a month; and that is solely in order that the new member be encouraged to invest in a membership, which will greatly assist Mandrake in their public services. Second, nobody suggested that visitors be denied access. My suggestion is that visitors be encouraged to invest in either a club membership or get a boxed set, depending of course on their individual finances. The gist of my point is that there *is* a freeloader problem out there and it can only be addressed politely through community influence. If nobody takes any action at all then nothing's going to happen. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mandrake club whithout visa
Since the question was on some days ago, I found on last newsletter that now we can subscribe mandrake club also by bank transfer/swift payment. bye everyone. paolo brusasco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club Membership??
Tomek, I don't think so. Just say that you'll join later. G - Original Message - From: Tomek Nowinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake Club Membership?? Hi, Maybe I don't understand well english, but... DO I NEED TO JOIN Mandrake Club Membership (and pay it of course) to download Mandrake 8.2 Beta? Tomek -- Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club Membership??
Tomek Nowinski wrote: Hi, Maybe I don't understand well english, but... DO I NEED TO JOIN Mandrake Club Membership (and pay it of course) to download Mandrake 8.2 Beta? Tomek No Tomek, you do not need to sign up as a member. The Mandrake Club is a way to donate some money to a fine, but not very profitable company. I think Mandrake's webmaster made a mistake by his phrasing on the main Mandrake Homepage : it doesn't attract newcomers, but scares them off. By the way : there are dozens of mirror-sites on the net from where anyone can download Mandrake. If you live in Poland, try : ftp://ftp.sunet.se and dig down to mandrake. I suppose it's there too ! Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club Membership??
fre 2002-02-08 klockan 21.44 skrev Kaj Haulrich: ftp://ftp.sunet.se and dig down to mandrake. I suppose it's there too ! It's where I got mine some weeks ago .-) Cheers, Bo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
