Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SOTL wrote:
Well I change the datadir in mysql-max and I have generated numerous versions 
of my.cnf directing MySQL to my desired directory each change causing  MySQL 
refused to run. So I keep playing around with mysql-max and found that there 
is a second place where the config file does a test of the datadir so I 
changed that. At that point MySQL would open and did switch data directories. 
Continued to play with MySQL, making and deleting DB et. i.e. all the things 
a newbie does with a book and a new program. Then, I shut the box down for 
the night and went home. It is after all only a test box at this time but it 
is damn noise so to keep the piece down it goes. Anyway, firing it up the 
next afternoon I was amassed to discover that MySQL would not open with the 
same old error message that it could not find the data directory. I the reset 
the data directory to the original settings and MySQL again started working. 
So, there are at least 3 places that you MUST change the data directory at in 
configuration files in order to change the data directory. Best best is to do 
it by symbolic link as no newbie is going to figure out how to do it in 
configuration files. My only comment: How quaint, how 1950s that there 
exist programs in which one can not select the data directory. 

Frank
PS. Thanks for the help. It is definitely appreciated. 

Frank,
 One thing to keep in mind, when changing things in the file in 
/etc/rc.d/init.d - You have to stop and restart MySQL before they take 
effect. The values in the script are only read at startup. You should 
probably learn about the service command. If you are using mysql, then 
you would run service mysql start to start it, service mysql stop to 
stop it, and service mysql restart to test your changes. If you use 
mysql-max, then use that in mlace of mysql in the service command.
 You may also be having a problem because on not understanding how the 
script works. Not every instruction in the script get run. It does 
tests, and if a value is set, then it skips part of the code. This is 
why you see references to /etc/my.cnf in the script, even though 
creating or changing this file has no affect on MySQL. This is because 
that part of the script does not get accessed on a Mandrake box. So you 
will want to be carefull aboout changing things in the script. The 
values that you would want to change are always at the beginning of the 
line, and normaly have a comment block before them.

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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-23 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SOTL wrote:
del
Hi All  Derek and Mikkel
Thanks for the information.
Derek sorry I did not mean to be insulting. 
I simply do not understand and am very happy for your help which I thank you 
very much for.

I have checked I do not have a file called S90MySQL in any location. I 
especially checked that it does NOT exist at /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql.
Nor do I have a file /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql.

What I do have is a file /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql-max.
I had taken a look at this file earlier but dismissed it assuming that it is 
not the correct file. MySQL-Max was placed on both boxes at one point in time 
and the removed. On reinstallation of MySQL standard MySQL was installed not 
MySQL-Max.  This may be the source of the configuration file issue.

Currently both boxes have MySQL installed. 

I have printed the MySQL-Max file and it is a 4  1/2 pages #10 font program 
which I can read some of - not much since I am not a programmer. One 
interesting thing I did notice is that it refers to checking a configuration 
file called my.cnf which I do not have.

As I know that I do not have the technical expertize to create a my.cnf file I 
would appreciate someone sending me a copy of a simple one that functions. 

Thanks
Frank
The mysql or mysql-max files are the scripts used to start mysql. There 
are a few config options in the file. The important one for your is the 
line:

datadir=/var/lib/mysql
If you want your mysql data someplace other then /var/lib/mysql, then 
you will need to chege this line. You will want to create a my.cnf file 
in this directory. It can be an empty file. The script fills in the 
missing entries with usable defaults.

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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-22 Thread SOTL
del

Hi All  Derek and Mikkel

Thanks for the information.

Derek sorry I did not mean to be insulting. 
I simply do not understand and am very happy for your help which I thank you 
very much for.

I have checked I do not have a file called S90MySQL in any location. I 
especially checked that it does NOT exist at /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql.
Nor do I have a file /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql.

What I do have is a file /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql-max.

I had taken a look at this file earlier but dismissed it assuming that it is 
not the correct file. MySQL-Max was placed on both boxes at one point in time 
and the removed. On reinstallation of MySQL standard MySQL was installed not 
MySQL-Max.  This may be the source of the configuration file issue.

Currently both boxes have MySQL installed. 

I have printed the MySQL-Max file and it is a 4  1/2 pages #10 font program 
which I can read some of - not much since I am not a programmer. One 
interesting thing I did notice is that it refers to checking a configuration 
file called my.cnf which I do not have.

As I know that I do not have the technical expertize to create a my.cnf file I 
would appreciate someone sending me a copy of a simple one that functions. 

Thanks
Frank

 The packager who built the Mandrake package for MySQL has created the
 file /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql to set up the defaults for MySQL so that a my.cnf
 file is unnecessary. I simply read that file and told you what the defaults
 were set to.

 I also told you that by using a symlink to /var/lib/mysql you could put
 your user data in a different folder without having to edit any files or
 create a my.cnf file.

 BTW: A pid file is a file usually kept in /var/run which identifies the
 Process Identifier number (pid) a daemon is using

 derek


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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SOTL wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:21, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote:
Hi All
I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system
data files called /System_Data.
I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /System_Data as
its default file storage.
I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one.
My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is:
datadir=/System_Data
When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message:
Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line
1. Fatail error in default handling.
Program aborted.
Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current
should be modified.
Frank
It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting to
find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir
(pid_file=,  basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin )
You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql  which
is the script that starts mysql
Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql
to /mnt/System_Data/mysql  then you would not need to change any
configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire.
BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you need
to define a different one?
derek

Hi All and thanks Derek
I have finally gotten back to the above issue in my attempts to resolve my 
setup issues.

I have printed the instructions for Using Option Files as kindly pointed out 
to me by  David G Stevenson located at:

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/option-files.html
If I understand Derek correctly my.cnf should look something like
[mysql]
datadir=/System_Data
basedir=/
bindir=/usr/bin
pid_file=
This raises two issues to me.
First what is a 'pid_file=' ?
And where is it located? 

Second I do not find pid_file, basedir, or bindir mentioned in the MySQL 
Reference Manual:: 4.3.2 Using Option Files.

Thus to say the least I am confused.
if someone would mind enlighten me on correct procedure I would appreciate it.
Thank
Frank

You may want to take a look at /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql to see were a lot 
of things are by default, and how they are set. If you leave pid_file= 
blank, it gets set in this file. The file gets created when mysql 
starts, and contains the Program ID (PID) of the MySQL server.

Looking at this file, it looks like this is where you would set your 
data directory, and you would put my.cfg in the data directory you set 
in this file.

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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 21 March 2005 22:31, SOTL wrote:
 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:21, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote:
   Hi All
  
   I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical
   system data files called /System_Data.
  
  
   I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /System_Data as
   its default file storage.
  
   I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one.
  
   My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is:
   datadir=/System_Data
  
   When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message:
  
   Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line
   1. Fatail error in default handling.
   Program aborted.
  
   Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how
   current should be modified.
  
   Frank
 
  It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting
  to find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir
  (pid_file=,  basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin )
 
  You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql 
  which is the script that starts mysql
 
  Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql
  to /mnt/System_Data/mysql  then you would not need to change any
  configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire.
 
  BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you
  need to define a different one?
 
  derek

 Hi All and thanks Derek

 I have finally gotten back to the above issue in my attempts to resolve my
 setup issues.

 I have printed the instructions for Using Option Files as kindly pointed
 out to me by  David G Stevenson located at:

 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/option-files.html

 If I understand Derek correctly my.cnf should look something like

 [mysql]
 datadir=/System_Data
 basedir=/
 bindir=/usr/bin
 pid_file=

 This raises two issues to me.

 First what is a 'pid_file=' ?
 And where is it located?

 Second I do not find pid_file, basedir, or bindir mentioned in the MySQL
 Reference Manual:: 4.3.2 Using Option Files.

 Thus to say the least I am confused.

 if someone would mind enlighten me on correct procedure I would appreciate
 it.

 Thank
 Frank

The packager who built the Mandrake package for MySQL has created the 
file /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql to set up the defaults for MySQL so that a my.cnf 
file is unnecessary. I simply read that file and told you what the defaults 
were set to.

I also told you that by using a symlink to /var/lib/mysql you could put your 
user data in a different folder without having to edit any files or create a 
my.cnf file.

BTW: A pid file is a file usually kept in /var/run which identifies the 
Process Identifier number (pid) a daemon is using 

derek

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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Derek Jennings wrote:
The packager who built the Mandrake package for MySQL has created the 
file /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql to set up the defaults for MySQL so that a my.cnf 
file is unnecessary. I simply read that file and told you what the defaults 
were set to.

I also told you that by using a symlink to /var/lib/mysql you could put your 
user data in a different folder without having to edit any files or create a 
my.cnf file.

BTW: A pid file is a file usually kept in /var/run which identifies the 
Process Identifier number (pid) a daemon is using 

derek
Minnor correction - the file is actualy /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql. The 
files in /etc/rc.d/rc#.d are symlinks to the files in /etc/rc.d/init.d 
and are created/removed by chkconfig. The /etc/rc#.d entries are 
symlinks to the directories in /etc/rc.d.

If you would like to know more about this, you may want to read 
/usr/share/doc/initscripts-7.61.1/sysvinitfiles.

Mikkel
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[newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-15 Thread SOTL
Hi All

I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system data 
files called /mnt/System_Data.


I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /mnt/System_Data as its 
default file storage.

I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one.

My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is:
datadir=/mnt/System_Data

When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message:

Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line 1.
Fatail error in default handling.
Program aborted.

Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current 
should be modified.

Frank


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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-15 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote:
 Hi All

 I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system
 data files called /mnt/System_Data.


 I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /mnt/System_Data as its
 default file storage.

 I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one.

 My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is:
 datadir=/mnt/System_Data

 When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message:

 Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line 1.
 Fatail error in default handling.
 Program aborted.

 Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current
 should be modified.

 Frank

It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting to 
find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir
(pid_file=,  basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin )

You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql  which is 
the script that starts mysql

Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql 
to /mnt/System_Data/mysql  then you would not need to change any 
configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire.

BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you need to 
define a different one?

derek

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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-15 Thread SOTL
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:21, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote:
  Hi All
 
  I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system
  data files called /mnt/System_Data.
 
 
  I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /mnt/System_Data as
  its default file storage.
 
  I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one.
 
  My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is:
  datadir=/mnt/System_Data
 
  When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message:
 
  Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line
  1. Fatail error in default handling.
  Program aborted.
 
  Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current
  should be modified.
 
  Frank

 It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting to
 find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir
 (pid_file=,  basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin )

 You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql  which
 is the script that starts mysql

 Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql
 to /mnt/System_Data/mysql  then you would not need to change any
 configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire.

 BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you need
 to define a different one?

 derek

Well I changed the file to be
[MYSQL]
datadir=/mnt/System_Data
and I got:
Error unknown variable 'datadir=/mnt/System_Data'
which I did not understand.
So, I open another .cnf file and edited to be identical by changing name-X 
within the [name-X] to [MYSQL] and then editing a linewith 
datadir= /dir/dir/file-name 
to
datadir=/mnt/System_Data

The final product was:
file =
/etc/my.cnf
with contents of
[MYSQL]
datadir=/mnt/System_Data

Then I tested it and it worked.

I would not bother people on this list with this but it is not the first time 
it has happened. That is I type a configuration file check it re check it and 
it refuse to function then copy and edit a file from some other location edit 
it to where it is exact and I do mean exact equal the the one I created from 
the keyboard and it function correctly.

Does anyone have any explanation why creating a new file from keyboard refuses 
to work and editing and existing file  and saving it works?

Frank


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