[newbie] Networking inquiry

2002-04-12 Thread Belgarius

(Actually, that subject line should be *utter* newbie)

   I've taken the plunge here, and installed ML 8.2 on another machine, one
that I hope to eventually use to replace my present Windoze server system,
but have already hit a stumbling block head on.

   My present server system runs under 98SE, and contains those servers and
user files for my domain and the subdomains I host.  It also contains the
3COM NIC that hooks to my DSL modem, along with a secondary NIC for the LAN.
The new Linux system was previously a 98SE client system, and things worked
about as well as they ever do under the Win32 platform.

   My intention is to use the Linux system as my primary server, and move
the user files and so forth to it, as well as make use of it's FTP, mail,
and http servers to host my domain and clients.  This is where I am running
into problems.  I need to be able to network the new box into the existing
setup, so that I can test things before making these changes, and to be able
to transfer the existing user files over to their new home, but... I am
unable to make the Linux system connect to the winbox.  I'm using the same
IP address and subnet mask that I used with the system when it had Windoze
installed on it, but it refuses to connect now, and I am not nearly
experienced enough with Linux to know where to start looking for clues as to
the how's and why's of this procedure.  No doubt, I've not installed
something needed, or have otherwise overlooked the obvious, and was hoping
that some kind soul here could give me a boot in the right direction as to
what I need to set up to at least get the two systems to talk to each other,
perhaps a tutorial somewhere that could lead me in the right direction.

   Many thanks in advance, and apologies for my blatant ignorance on the
topic.  ;c)

Belgarius Mourngrym
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Re: [newbie] Networking inquiry

2002-04-12 Thread shane

On Friday 12 April 2002 14:03, Belgarius opened a general hailing frequency 
and transmitted to all open stations:

My intention is to use the Linux system as my primary server, and move
 the user files and so forth to it, as well as make use of it's FTP, mail,
 and http servers to host my domain and clients.  This is where I am
 running into problems.  I need to be able to network the new box into the
 existing setup, so that I can test things before making these changes,
 and to be able to transfer the existing user files over to their new
 home, but... I am unable to make the Linux system connect to the winbox. 
 I'm using the same IP address and subnet mask that I used with the system
 when it had Windoze installed on it, but it refuses to connect now, and I
 am not nearly experienced enough with Linux to know where to start

starting very basic, http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan.html

however, what do you by it refuses to connect?  can you ping the box?  can 
you see files either direction?  what are you using to attempt to see 
files?

more info!  mandrake mailing list users want to know!  :-)

if you can ping both ways, let me suggest komba2 for your filesharing needs.  
it is on the cds i believe.  samba is also your friend.  if you can't ping,  
try, in a shell window, becoming root first with the su command then 
ifconfig and tell us what you get.

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Re: [newbie] Networking inquiry

2002-04-12 Thread Derek Jennings

On Friday 12 April 2002 10:03 pm, Belgarius wrote:
 (Actually, that subject line should be *utter* newbie)

I've taken the plunge here, and installed ML 8.2 on another machine, one
 that I hope to eventually use to replace my present Windoze server system,
 but have already hit a stumbling block head on.

My present server system runs under 98SE, and contains those servers and
 user files for my domain and the subdomains I host.  It also contains the
 3COM NIC that hooks to my DSL modem, along with a secondary NIC for the
 LAN. The new Linux system was previously a 98SE client system, and things
 worked about as well as they ever do under the Win32 platform.

My intention is to use the Linux system as my primary server, and move
 the user files and so forth to it, as well as make use of it's FTP, mail,
 and http servers to host my domain and clients.  This is where I am running
 into problems.  I need to be able to network the new box into the existing
 setup, so that I can test things before making these changes, and to be
 able to transfer the existing user files over to their new home, but... I
 am unable to make the Linux system connect to the winbox.  I'm using the
 same IP address and subnet mask that I used with the system when it had
 Windoze installed on it, but it refuses to connect now, and I am not nearly
 experienced enough with Linux to know where to start looking for clues as
 to the how's and why's of this procedure.  No doubt, I've not installed
 something needed, or have otherwise overlooked the obvious, and was hoping
 that some kind soul here could give me a boot in the right direction as to
 what I need to set up to at least get the two systems to talk to each
 other, perhaps a tutorial somewhere that could lead me in the right
 direction.

Many thanks in advance, and apologies for my blatant ignorance on the
 topic.  ;c)



Windows machines use a proprietary SMB protocol to talk to each other. So in 
order to use your Linux box as a Windows file server it needs to 'look like' 
a Windows box. That function is performed by a server function called 'Samba'
in 8.2 Samba is quite easy to set up (compared to earlier releases) using a 
tool called 'Webmin' Webmin is worth getting to know because you can set up a 
whole bunch of stuff with it, and can even set up your linux box with a 
remote computer.

First install the rpms  samba,samba-client,samba-common,webmin

The webmin server will automatically start when you install the rpm.
 Next type 
https://localhost:1in the URL line of any browser. This will pull up 
the webmin login. Login as username root.
Ignore the other fun stuff for the moment, To set up Samba select Servers 
Samba Windows FileSharing

It will show a page showing your default shares which are 
homes -This is the home directory of whichever user logs into samba
printers -  This is any linux printer attached to the Computer or networked 
through CUPS

You can try adding new shares later, but start off just trying to share the 
home directories.

Next define the samba user names. These do NOT have to be the same as the 
Linux user names, but it makes life simpler to understand if they are. These 
users must also exist on the Windows computers. Webmin has a nice facility to 
automatically convert linus users to samba users. Select  'Convert Unix users 
to Samba Users'

It will then show the users it has converted. Delete any unwanted ones, and 
make sure thos that remain are defined with 
'normal user'
'password IS required'
and set the password to be the same as the Linux password (for an easy life)


Next Select 'Windows Networking'
Make sure the workgroup name is as for the rest of your network.

Then click on 'Restart Samba Server' and you should be just about there. (So 
long as I have not left out some vital step)

You should then see your Linux computer in Windows 'Network Neighbourhood' 
and you should be able to mount the home directory of whichever user you used 
to log into the windows box.  If it does not accept the password, there is 
something screwy in your username/password config.

To browse the Windows computers from Linux two methods are easy to do.

1/ Install the rpm 'komba2'  Start it from the Kmenu and then you should get 
a 'Network Neighbourhood' browse facility. Clicking on a folder will open it 
(so long as you have given komba the username/password) and it will mount in 
your home directory under the folder 'komba' 

2/ Use Mandrake ControlCentreMountPointsSambaMountPoints
Click on 'Search servers' to find your windows computers.
Click on the server name to find shared folders
Select one and click on mount point to specify the folder on the linux 
machine where you want this share to go.
Click on options-  user allows a user to mount the folder as well as root.
Noauto means the folder will NOT be automatically mounted every tme 
the 
computer boots.

Select on 'Mount' and the folder will be mounted for