Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice

2002-03-23 Thread Wally

- Original Message -
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 You should have downloaded the 'iso' images ...

 Once you have your discs burned insert CD#1 and configure your BIOS to
boot
 from CD. Everything is then automatic and you will be guided through the
 install.  Before you start defrag your Windows drive and be sure to
UNCHECK
 the box where windows defragger offers to  order programs to start faster.
 If you do not do this then you cannot be sure that Linux will be able to
find
 a large enough contiguous area of disc in which to create a linux
partition.

The Win2k defrag isn't terribly helpful - in spite of having 2gigs free, I
can only get at about 1gig. How much disk does it need for a lightweight
install? I'm planning to install it on my laptop for now (when I asked my
earlier question, it was with a view to building a linux-only server on a
desktop PC). Since I don't really know linux very well, I figure putting it
on the laptop will be better for learning because I can play with it when I
want. Not too bothered about having X - more the unix command line stuff and
general system architecture that I want to learn. User accounts, file server
(samba?), that sort of thing.



 At the very least you need CD #1, but CD#2 contains some very useful stuff
 CD#3 IMHO you can mostly do without.

Got all three. :-)






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Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice

2002-03-23 Thread John Lynch

The Win2k defrag isn't terribly helpful - in spite of having 2gigs free, I
can only get at about 1gig. How much disk does it need for a lightweight
install?

Yes, that's a BIG problem with partitioning, it doesn't do it.

I had 1 gig free on my old computer, and the bloody thing let me make a 
partition of 500meg.

I installed Mandrake and took up 1.5gig.

although I installed a TON.

try to install it, and it won't let you if u don't have enuf room.

simple as that

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Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice

2002-03-23 Thread Derek Jennings



 The Win2k defrag isn't terribly helpful - in spite of having 2gigs free, I
 can only get at about 1gig. How much disk does it need for a lightweight
 install?

Well if you do not need any of the graphical apps you can certainly fit a 
fair bit onto 1G. If during the package selection you just check the server 
configuration, then the install will automatically set up most of the stuff 
you need.
You should also allow for a swap partition. If this computer is not going to 
be used very heavily, then a small swap partition is fine. If it is too small 
you get disc thrashing, too large and you waste disc space.



 I'm planning to install it on my laptop for now (when I asked my
 earlier question, it was with a view to building a linux-only server on a
 desktop PC). Since I don't really know linux very well, I figure putting it
 on the laptop will be better for learning

As your later post shows- Installing on a laptop is more problematic than a 
desktop. The hardware tends to be more esoteric.  I have never done it, but I 
think you need to do a pcmcia install.  I'll try to look out some posts on 
the subject.

Good luck

derek




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Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice

2002-03-23 Thread jbarron201

I use win2k and it requires 11% for free space ,defrag gives warnings at
about 25%.A slave H/D might be worth thinking about.
- Original Message -
From: John Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice


 The Win2k defrag isn't terribly helpful - in spite of having 2gigs free,
I
 can only get at about 1gig. How much disk does it need for a lightweight
 install?

 Yes, that's a BIG problem with partitioning, it doesn't do it.

 I had 1 gig free on my old computer, and the bloody thing let me make a
 partition of 500meg.

 I installed Mandrake and took up 1.5gig.

 although I installed a TON.

 try to install it, and it won't let you if u don't have enuf room.

 simple as that

 _
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Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice

2002-03-23 Thread Jonathan Dlouhy

On Saturday 23 March 2002 07:08 am, you wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  You should have downloaded the 'iso' images ...
 
  Once you have your discs burned insert CD#1 and configure your BIOS
  to

 boot

  from CD. Everything is then automatic and you will be guided
  through the install.  Before you start defrag your Windows drive
  and be sure to

 UNCHECK

  the box where windows defragger offers to  order programs to start
  faster. If you do not do this then you cannot be sure that Linux
  will be able to

 find

  a large enough contiguous area of disc in which to create a linux

 partition.

 The Win2k defrag isn't terribly helpful - in spite of having 2gigs
 free, I can only get at about 1gig. How much disk does it need for a
 lightweight install? I'm planning to install it on my laptop for now
 (when I asked my earlier question, it was with a view to building a
 linux-only server on a desktop PC). Since I don't really know linux
 very well, I figure putting it on the laptop will be better for
 learning because I can play with it when I want. Not too bothered
 about having X - more the unix command line stuff and general system
 architecture that I want to learn. User accounts, file server
 (samba?), that sort of thing.

  At the very least you need CD #1, but CD#2 contains some very
  useful stuff CD#3 IMHO you can mostly do without.

 Got all three. :-)

You can get a demo version of DiskKeeper and I'm 99.9% sure it will let 
you defrag your disk at least once. I would run it a couple of times, 
and then you should be able to reclaim a lot more than half your 
available free space in a contiguous space.
Good luck, keep us posted.

-- 
Jonathan Dlouhy
Saturday, March 23, 2002

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Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice

2002-03-23 Thread FemmeFatale

with CLI only?  Less than a gig of data will be installed.

Femme

Wally wrote:
 The Win2k defrag isn't terribly helpful - in spite of having 2gigs free, I
 can only get at about 1gig. How much disk does it need for a lightweight
 install? I'm planning to install it on my laptop for now (when I asked my
 earlier question, it was with a view to building a linux-only server on a
 desktop PC). Since I don't really know linux very well, I figure putting it
 on the laptop will be better for learning because I can play with it when I
 want. Not too bothered about having X - more the unix command line stuff and
 general system architecture that I want to learn. User accounts, file server
 (samba?), that sort of thing.




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Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice

2002-03-17 Thread Derek Jennings

You should have downloaded the 'iso' images which can then be burned directly 
onto Cd's which will automatically be bootable.
here is a list of FTP servers you can get the iso images from
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftptmp/1016406720.d2f1033d19306e7e8903fa1e3eaee8a0.php#iso

Here are instructions on how to burn an iso image using Windows applications
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/howtos/iso/howtoisoen.html

Once you have your discs burned insert CD#1 and configure your BIOS to boot 
from CD. Everything is then automatic and you will be guided through the 
install.  Before you start defrag your Windows drive and be sure to UNCHECK 
the box where windows defragger offers to  order programs to start faster.
If you do not do this then you cannot be sure that Linux will be able to find 
a large enough contiguous area of disc in which to create a linux partition.

At the very least you need CD #1, but CD#2 contains some very useful stuff
CD#3 IMHO you can mostly do without.

derek



On Sunday 17 March 2002 20:16, Wally wrote:
 Hi.

 I downloaded Mandrake 8.1 last night. I'd like to turn the 1.7gig directory
 tree into a bunch of CDs so that I can install it on a separate machine. It
 looks like nearly all of the download (1.57gig) is RPMs, but I don't know
 which are vital to the install, and which are extras.

 How do I make a set of 3 CDs which will, presumably, match the 3-CD
 distribution? Can I make CD1 bootable? (The downloaded files are presently
 on a W2k machine, no network, no ready-built Linux systems).

 TIA,

 Wally



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