Re[2]: [newbie] OT over reacting
Hey, You know what I do whenever I get a new Mandrake distro? (well there are a lot of things BUT) I open the software (RPM) manager, go to flat list, and under the not installed part, I take the time to scroll down thru the list and see just what was -not- installed. Its pretty informative... even if it does take awhile. ;-) Hmm, I always went through the whole list before (during) installation... Bye Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] OT over reacting
Hey, Hmm, I always went through the whole list before (during) installation... i dont think you could view all available rpm packages during installation as many are intentionally hidden by the distro packagers to prevent overwhelming the new users who are trying mandrake for the first time. the list of applications that you could see during installation is the same one that you can see during a rpmdrake session. you have to select the flat view to get a complete listing. an example here (if i recall correctly) would be the libwine1 packages. you would never see the libwine1 packages during installation. i chose that as an example because i just upgraded one computer here to LM8.2 and was able to add the libwine1 package when all was running smoothly after installation. i recall this topic was also brought up by civileme a couple months back during the release of 8.1. i may be wrong so take my word with a grain of salt. ;-) You might be right, I had the same problem with kernel-sources, which I could never find in rpmdrake. Still, you can choose between a categorized and a flat view of packages during installation, can't you? Bye Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] OT over reacting
Hey, Still, you can choose between a categorized and a flat view of packages during installation, can't you? *grin* to tell you the truth i dont know if i can switch to flat view during installation. is there such an option during the graphical installation? IIRC there is something like unfold whole tree, but I don't remember, either. :-( to find out when i get home and re-install my mandrake (maybe ill triple boot it with gentoo as i hear good remarks about it). Good luck! Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 04:39, Roman Korcek wrote: Hey, You know what I do whenever I get a new Mandrake distro? (well there are a lot of things BUT) I open the software (RPM) manager, go to flat list, and under the not installed part, I take the time to scroll down thru the list and see just what was -not- installed. Its pretty informative... even if it does take awhile. ;-) Hmm, I always went through the whole list before (during) installation... Bye Roman Good grief, I thought I was the only one. ;) LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
Roman Korcek wrote: Hey, Still, you can choose between a categorized and a flat view of packages during installation, can't you? *grin* to tell you the truth i dont know if i can switch to flat view during installation. is there such an option during the graphical installation? IIRC there is something like unfold whole tree, but I don't remember, either. :-( to find out when i get home and re-install my mandrake (maybe ill triple boot it with gentoo as i hear good remarks about it). Good luck! Roman In one of Mandrake's least ergonomic moments, the switch to flat list was chosen to be the little icon of 2 light blue arrows chasing each other at the bottom of the tree list. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Tuesday 07 May 2002 03:30 am, Roman Korcek offered this for consideration: Hey, Still, you can choose between a categorized and a flat view of packages during installation, can't you? *grin* to tell you the truth i dont know if i can switch to flat view during installation. is there such an option during the graphical installation? IIRC there is something like unfold whole tree, but I don't remember, either. :-( to find out when i get home and re-install my mandrake (maybe ill triple boot it with gentoo as i hear good remarks about it). Good luck! Roman ~ You can click the button (looks like a little z I believe but has a tool tip to tell you if it's the one you want) to toggle between threaded (? tree?) and flat list during graphical installation at the 'choose packages to install' dialogue. But the kernel source should appear under the 'development' heading even in the tree view. If you choose development as a category during install, kernel source, and other RPMs needed to install packages from source, should be installed without further prompting in any case. I think so anyway. It's been a few days since I helped someone install the OS so I really don't trust my memory _that_ much! -- Charlie in Edmonton, AB, Canada Mandrake 8.2 user 244963 at http://counter.li.org 8:40am up 17:09, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT over reacting
Well it actually came on the installation CD's, then again since I am new to linux that may not be what I am looking for and could explain why it doesn't work. When I did my install (clean). I choose expert mode and selected the option to install individual packages and one of them was wine. Which told me it was for emulating windows. figure this might be helpful to me as a beginner so I installed it and the man page for it. I have looked on http://winehq.com and they have a download section for the binaries and source. from what some people have said they might be on http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ Sorry I can't be of more help, with locating the packages, but I would still appreciate the tips :) Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: daRcmaTTeR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] OT over reacting On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed Winex, but I just can't figure out how to get it to work, I am fairly new to Linux and still learning. I installed it when I installed the Linux OS on the machine. I read the man page for wine and it didn't make much sense to me. I have also tried to read docs on the winehq.com website. Can you please send me some tips on how to get it working properly. Mike, I'll share tips with you if you'll tell me where in the sam-hill you found those nasty buggers. I can't find the packages anywhare. 'course I may not be looking in the right place either. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Mon, 6 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it actually came on the installation CD's, then again since I am new to linux that may not be what I am looking for and could explain why it doesn't work. When I did my install (clean). I choose expert mode and selected the option to install individual packages and one of them was wine. Which told me it was for emulating windows. figure this might be helpful to me as a beginner so I installed it and the man page for it. I have looked on http://winehq.com and they have a download section for the binaries and source. from what some people have said they might be on http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ Sorry I can't be of more help, with locating the packages, but I would still appreciate the tips :) Thanks Mike Ok Mike...ya talked me into it. to get you started you may want to take a look at Codeweavers wine. that seems to be the best one to start with if you're very new to using wine. you can get a copy of Codeweavers wine at this address. Let me know how you make out. feel free to email me off list ifso desire. http://www.codeweavers.com/ -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Monday 06 May 2002 02:24 pm, you wrote: Ok Mike...ya talked me into it. to get you started you may want to take a look at Codeweavers wine. that seems to be the best one to start with if you're very new to using wine. you can get a copy of Codeweavers wine at this address. Let me know how you make out. feel free to email me off list ifso desire. http://www.codeweavers.com/ Again, there is a Codeweavers version that you can install straight from the Mandrake 8.2 CD's...thats what I did. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Mon, 6 May 2002, darklord wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 02:24 pm, you wrote: Ok Mike...ya talked me into it. to get you started you may want to take a look at Codeweavers wine. that seems to be the best one to start with if you're very new to using wine. you can get a copy of Codeweavers wine at this address. Let me know how you make out. feel free to email me off list ifso desire. http://www.codeweavers.com/ Again, there is a Codeweavers version that you can install straight from the Mandrake 8.2 CD's...thats what I did. stooopid me...I didn't even know that. show ya just how closely I've examined those Cd's. Just installed the stuff I needed and then shelved the rest. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Monday 06 May 2002 08:39 pm, you wrote: stooopid me...I didn't even know that. show ya just how closely I've examined those Cd's. Just installed the stuff I needed and then shelved the rest. Nah, don't feel bad - look up stupid/imbecile/idiot in just about any ole dictionary...you'll find a photo that bears a remarkable resemblance to yours truly! ;-) You know what I do whenever I get a new Mandrake distro? (well there are a lot of things BUT) I open the software (RPM) manager, go to flat list, and under the not installed part, I take the time to scroll down thru the list and see just what was -not- installed. Its pretty informative... even if it does take awhile. ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
Where can i Get Winex 2.0 ? - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT over reacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I don't agree with anyone flaming someone because of the email signature. Who cares what their opinion is. Also he does have a right to his opinion especially if he lives in the USA, this is guaranteed by the 1st amendment in the Constitution ( As noted below). Also Microsoft does suck, I have used windoz products for a number of years now and I have just started to use Linux in the last year. I never have to reboot my Linux box, but I have to reboot any windoz box at least once a day. And the only reason I still use windoz is because I like to some games every now and then. If the damn game companies would port stuff to Linux I would get rid of windoz all together. Just my $.02 Have you tried Winex 2.0? Many of us swear by it now, and I can personally vouch for: Starcraft/Broodwars Diablo2/Lord of Destruction Jedi Knight 2 Baldurs Gate 2 Try it - dump Windog! (woof!) ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
Where can i Get Winex 2.0 ? http://www.transgaming.com/download.php - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT over reacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I don't agree with anyone flaming someone because of the email signature. Who cares what their opinion is. Also he does have a right to his opinion especially if he lives in the USA, this is guaranteed by the 1st amendment in the Constitution ( As noted below). Also Microsoft does suck, I have used windoz products for a number of years now and I have just started to use Linux in the last year. I never have to reboot my Linux box, but I have to reboot any windoz box at least once a day. And the only reason I still use windoz is because I like to some games every now and then. If the damn game companies would port stuff to Linux I would get rid of windoz all together. Just my $.02 Have you tried Winex 2.0? Many of us swear by it now, and I can personally vouch for: Starcraft/Broodwars Diablo2/Lord of Destruction Jedi Knight 2 Baldurs Gate 2 Try it - dump Windog! (woof!) ;-) --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed Winex, but I just can't figure out how to get it to work, I am fairly new to Linux and still learning. I installed it when I installed the Linux OS on the machine. Normally, you just: mount /mnt/cdrom (or whatever yours is) cd /mnt/cdrom winex name of install program and it will do the rest... After installation you would just type in: winex executable filename I read the man page for wine and it didn't make much sense to me. I have also tried to read docs on the winehq.com website. Can you please send me some tips on how to get it working properly. I play these games regularly Starcraft/Broodwars Starcraft works great, even the update patches! Diablo2/Lord of Destruction Ditto here... Jedi Knight 2 Ditto again... Medal of Honor: Allied Assualt No idea about this game - I don't have it. Sorry. Quake III Unreal Tournement These last 2 games are available native to Linux (ported). I'd recommend getting these versions. Its what I did, and they work great! ;-) Hope this helps somewhat! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed Winex, but I just can't figure out how to get it to work, I am fairly new to Linux and still learning. I installed it when I installed the Linux OS on the machine. I read the man page for wine and it didn't make much sense to me. I have also tried to read docs on the winehq.com website. Can you please send me some tips on how to get it working properly. Mike, I'll share tips with you if you'll tell me where in the sam-hill you found those nasty buggers. I can't find the packages anywhare. 'course I may not be looking in the right place either. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT over reacting
On Thu, 2 May 2002 20:37:50 -0700 shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled impishly: snippage Microsoft: The company that made email dangerous. Does Microsoft mean small and limp Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT over reacting
Personally I don't agree with anyone flaming someone because of the email signature. Who cares what their opinion is. Also he does have a right to his opinion especially if he lives in the USA, this is guaranteed by the 1st amendment in the Constitution ( As noted below). Also Microsoft does suck, I have used windoz products for a number of years now and I have just started to use Linux in the last year. I never have to reboot my Linux box, but I have to reboot any windoz box at least once a day. And the only reason I still use windoz is because I like to some games every now and then. If the damn game companies would port stuff to Linux I would get rid of windoz all together. Just my $.02 shockingly, freedom of speech is something that the open source ppl think highly of. welcome to linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT over reacting
On Thursday 02 May 2002 18:21, Nick Andriash opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I am/was beginning to experiment with Linux using Mandrake 8.2 but am disheartened to see signatures such as yours. How typical of Linux Users... and almost enough to make me gag and want to wipe Linux off my Computer. take a breath, read the other comments on the list about microsoft, like how they claim it is against the law to remove it once installed. ask yourself if a company thats motto was once DOS ain't done till lotus won't run and that created an error message in windows to get ppl to stop using another companies DOS is one you trust? Tell me something Shane... Why do you feel Windows Users are fools? cause i have my MCP and i know the majority of ppl using windows are doing so because they believe and ad on TV/it came installed, not because it fits what they use their machine for. I use Windows... am I a fool in your eyes? do you honestly think windows is the way to go without investigating other options? wait, you are on this list, question answered? You don't even know me, so where do you get off labelling me as one... and putting something like that in your signature? if it were not for immoral the behavior of the company that makes windows i would recommend it. because of that behavior, i can't. because of that behavior i think anyone who gives their money to a company bent on trapping them into a proprietary world is behaving foolishly. No wonder Users are slow to try Linux, what with greetings like yours. I am amazed that the List Moderators haven't said anything to you. shockingly, freedom of speech is something that the open source ppl think highly of. welcome to linux. note sig file below. -- Microsoft: The company that made email dangerous. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
