Re: [newbie] Ok I installed 9.0beta2, now what? :-)

2002-08-09 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Friday 09 Aug 2002 12:29 am, Charlie M. wrote:

 I'll find a way to update the sucker. I like it so far.

Bad cut and paste by me - the URL above should've been

ftp://newton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS

I have unlimited but contended 512KB/sec up, 256KB/sec down so it's a slow 
business but gets there.

I find you have to do

urpmi.update cooker

before

urpmi --auto-select

otherwise the 14MB+ file _isn't_ downloaded each time and things get confused 
(the hdlist.cz file locally held being different from the contents of 
cooker).

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] Ok I installed 9.0beta2, now what? :-)

2002-08-08 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Thursday 08 Aug 2002 7:45 pm, Charlie M. wrote:

 I finally got around to burning those disks and installing the beta last
 night/early this morning. So far I'm liking what I see except for the fact
 that:
 1) the machine wouldn't boot from hda5 (error something like VFS unable to
 load root at 03:05 or some such) after the install so I had to boot from
 the floppy I made;

Write it up and post it to the [cooker] mailing list!

 2) is there a way to update this thing? I went looking for mirrors to
 download the latest version of urpmi and rpmdrake and none seem to have
 anything except the ISOs. I'm trying to do it manually 'cause Mandrake
 Update doesn't seem to exist and the software manager won't add a source
 either from GUI or using urpmi.addmedia and so on.

Updating is not obvious and, as you'll see later, is problematic because of 
the nature of the beta process.

The first thing to do is to type from a root prompt:

edit-urpm-sources.pl

This puts you into a GUI so you don't have to remember the urpmi syntax. I 
then press Add (source) and put into the boxes (after selecting 'FTP 
server'):

Name:
cooker
URL: 
ftp://newton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMSwton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
Relative path to synthesis/hdlist:
../base/hdlist.cz

Unfortunately there are two big problems every time you do a urpmi 
- --auto-select:

i. hdlist.cz is 14MB+ and probably has to be downloaded every time;

ii. because cooker is constantly changing, with RPMs added every day, you're 
in for huge downloads; first time I was asked to download 917MB of files!

I fled after ii and am going to keep testing with respect to the baseline; I 
strongly suspect that the only people who're keeping fully up to date with 
cooker have company or university connections with massive bandwidth.

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] Ok I installed 9.0beta2, now what? :-)

2002-08-08 Thread Charlie M.

On Thursday 08 August 2002 02:44 pm, Alastair Scott wrote:
random (yeah right!) snips  
 Write it up and post it to the [cooker] mailing list!

I think I figured it out after a long afternoon of reading and re-installing. 
I was using XFS for all the partitions except /boot and 9.0beta2 doesn't seem 
to like;
a.) a separate boot partition, and;
b.) XFS for /root. 
During the re-install I merged /boot and /root, used ext3 and no more kernel 
panic VFS: unable to mount root at 03:05! and no more stuck boots are 
happening.

I've restarted this damned thing more times in the past 48 hours than I have 
in the past 4 to 5 months. :-(

 Updating is not obvious and, as you'll see later, is problematic because of
 the nature of the beta process.

 The first thing to do is to type from a root prompt:

 edit-urpm-sources.pl

Has anyone told you lately that you're a gentleman and a scholar? Allow me to 
say so! Thanks, but I just tried it and it isn't working. This is what I got:
added medium cooker
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 1 MandrakeLinux 
9.0 beta2 (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 2 Mandrake 
Linux 9.0 beta 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 3 Mandrake 
Linux 9.0 beta 2 (x86) (cdrom3).cz]
retrieving description file of cooker...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of cooker...
ftp://ftp://newton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMSwton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz:
 
Bad port number.
...retrieving failed:
retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium cooker
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.cooker.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium cooker
write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cf
and just trying to get to the site (browser, ftp program etc.) gets me an 
error message:
The file or directory(the url) does not exist.

 This puts you into a GUI so you don't have to remember the urpmi syntax. I
 then press Add (source) and put into the boxes (after selecting 'FTP
 server'):

 Name:
 cooker
 URL:
 ftp://newton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mand
rake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMSwton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/p
ub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS Relative
 path to synthesis/hdlist:
 ../base/hdlist.cz

 Unfortunately there are two big problems every time you do a urpmi
 - --auto-select:

 i. hdlist.cz is 14MB+ and probably has to be downloaded every time;

 ii. because cooker is constantly changing, with RPMs added every day,
 you're in for huge downloads; first time I was asked to download 917MB of
 files!

Not a problem here; ceiling is 10 GB/month download and 3 GB/month upload on 
this cable connection.

 I fled after ii and am going to keep testing with respect to the baseline;
 I strongly suspect that the only people who're keeping fully up to date
 with cooker have company or university connections with massive bandwidth.

Like myself you mean? :-)

I'll find a way to update the sucker. I like it so far.

 Alastair
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 http://www.unmetered.org.uk/
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Sorry for the long message, I didn't cc: the list 'cause I didn't figure you 
needed it twice.

Charlie




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