[newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

2003-01-28 Thread Vahur Lokk
Hello!
I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a 
decade since the player broke.
Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old 
grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.

But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound Recorder 
used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I actually 
should use for my purposes?

Wahur


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RE: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

2003-01-28 Thread Franki
old record players need something called a preamp to boost the signal
enough for an ordinary amp to pick it up...

its likely that you are missing one...

can you hear the record using headphones?? if so then the preamp is probably
inbuilt...


rgds

Frank

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Hello!
I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a
decade since the player broke.
Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old
grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.

But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound Recorder
used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I actually
should use for my purposes?

Wahur




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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

2003-01-28 Thread Jerry Barton
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:51:22 +0200
Vahur Lokk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello!
 I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a 
 decade since the player broke.
 Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old 
 grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.
 
 But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound Recorder 
 used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I actually 
 should use for my purposes?
 
 Wahur
 
 
Having spent weeks putting LP's onto cd's i hope i can offer some tips.  

is the phonograph a componant to a system or is it one of those old console 
AM/FM/Phonograph/tape players?

If it's a componant:  get an amp with a phono-in jack and an audio-out or tape-out 
jack (these can be picked up in 2nd hand stores for cheap).  Hook the phono jacks to 
the amp.  Go to your local electronics store and get a patchcord that has a 
headphone type stereo jack on one end and whatever kind of jack the amp has for its 
audio-out jacks (usually RCA jacks).  Plug the headphone jack into the line in on 
the sound card and the audio-out or tape-out jack on the amp.  open aumix or 
similar mixer ap on the computer, make sure line in is selected for recording and 
adjust the volume level so that you can hear the phonograph playing through your 
computer speakers without distortion then start recording.

If it's a console system, use the headphone jack (you may need an adapter if it has 
the 1/4 headphone jack) and a patchcord with the 1/8 stereo headphone jacks on both 
ends.  turn the volume almost all the way down.  open aumix or similar mixer ap on the 
computer, make sure that line-in is selected for recording and turn the line-in 
volume ALL THE WAY UP.  Play one of the LP's and adjust the volume on the stereo so 
that you can hear the LP through your computer speakers without distortion.

Fire up your sound recording program and have fun!

btw, there are a couple of aps out there for working with LP's
gramophile i think is the name of one of them.  It was included in 8.2, it may be in 
the contribs for 9.0 or maybe even on the install cd's (haven't checked, personally) 
plus there are wave editors like audacity to help you work with the sound file.

Jerry.

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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

2003-01-28 Thread Colin Jenkins
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:35:36 +0800
Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 old record players need something called a preamp to boost the signal
 enough for an ordinary amp to pick it up...

if you can send the output of the turntable to the input of a cassette deck, then you 
can use the cassette out to record on your pc (the cassette provides the preamp
 
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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

2003-01-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:51 am, Vahur Lokk wrote:
 Hello!
 I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a
 decade since the player broke.
 Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old
 grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.

 But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound
 Recorder used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I
 actually should use for my purposes?

 Wahur

I managed to import my old vinyl by connecting the output from the record deck 
directly to the  input of my sound card.  Naturally you have to set your 
mixer to accept input from the correct input device, and to unmute it.

As for software there is a package called 'Gramofile'  available in the 
Contrib directory on any Mandrake mirror.
http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/gramofile/
It is a command line application, and contains  scratch and rumble filters to 
'spruce up' that worn old vinyl.
I found it necessary to change the default settings to ensure gramofile would 
distinguish the beginning and ending of tracks correctly.

Naturally I saved my imported tracks as ogg files instead of mp3 for reasons 
of quality and 'freedom'.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

2003-01-28 Thread Raffaele Belardi
You need to use a preamp not only for boosting volume, but also for 
equalizing the frequency response of the vinyl player head. If you don't 
do it, the lower frequencies will be too low in volume, while the higher 
frequencies will be too loud (see for example 
http://www.paia.com/riaa.htm for a correct vinyl preamp frequency response)

That said, if you listen to your records through the PC speaker, you 
probably won't notice any difference between a correctly equalized 
recording and one that is not...

raffaele

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On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:35:36 +0800
Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



old record players need something called a preamp to boost the signal
enough for an ordinary amp to pick it up...



if you can send the output of the turntable to the input of a cassette deck, then you can use the cassette out to record on your pc (the cassette provides the preamp
 



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