RE: [newbie] Re: Linux-Mandrake User Guide

1999-05-18 Thread Birchall, Richard

M. Bull[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:

 Here it is from the "Install" file on the Mandrake 5.3 CD:
 "your main Linux partition, which will need to be loaded on
 " / " ("Mount point : / "). This will be the root directory
 (" root directory "). The size of this partition will need
 to be at least 300 Mb. More experienced users may load the
 /usr and /home directories on supplementary partitions."

What's wrong with that?  You can still break it up so it isn't
just in one large partition, it's just saying that most users
will just put linux into one drive with a / mount point, and
that should be 300 megs -- with the addition that you can put
/usr and /home on supplementary partitions.  /usr is the bulk
of the size of the install 

 RedHat's documentation on the same CD recommends 50 to 100MB
 for /. You'll get "disk full" messages if you set up a small
 root.


It makes sense that the Mandrake instructions should supercede any
conflicting Red Hat instructions.

Those Red Hat 5.2 instructions didn't allow for all the KDE files being
installed into /opt/kde.


Mandrake 5.3 and Red Hat 6.0 both work fine with a single 465 MB "/"
partition.  (I have 500MB extra for Linux, using 32MB for swap).
Just don't install "everything"...



Richard




Re: [newbie] Re: Linux-Mandrake User Guide

1999-05-17 Thread Ripcrd6

Having just installed Mandrake 5.3 myself I can confirm that suggestions on
partition sizes for disks would be nice.   I originally went by a
manual/how-to written by someone that had a multiGB HD with plenty of space.
I was installing on a 540MB HD, for Linux only, and was guessing at
partition size.  After the first install failed to install all of Xfree86
libs and some important KDE stuff due to space constraints I learned my
lesson.   I created a root partition and a swap the second time.  Disk Druid
only helped me to name the partition.  I had to figure out fdisk, not too
different from MS fdisk.   Second install went great, but in partitioning,
setting the partition by the number of cylinders or sectors was confusing.
How many MB in a cylinder?   I saw one confusing reference to number of
bytes times something gives bytes in cylinder.   After that it was smooth
sailing.This time "startx" actually did something.   Played my first
game of Kasteroids, cool.

Philip W. Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suggest including ideal partition memory amounts for particular hard
drive
spaces (560MB, 1.2GB, etc. machines) and exactly what suggested partitions
should be allocated.  To the new user, this can be a confusing ordeal if
they are not given the option for a workstation install and have to choose
the custom option (provided that they do not have the knowledge of how to
format a disk for unpartitioned space).

Philip


- Original Message -
From: Michael Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 G'day All

 I have proposed the creation of a Linux-Mandrake User Guide to
MandrakeSoft SA,
 this proposal has been accepted by them.

 Quite a bit of groundwork on the project has been done by me, but because
 of my limited knowledge of all aspects of Linux-Mandrake, I would like to
 invite all those of you out there who feel they can contribute, to
contact
me,
 and book their area of expertise on the "Mandrake User Support Thingie"
MUST by
 adding a blank tip under the Linux Mandrake User Guide Topic at
 http://landofoz.apana.org.au/mandrake.html. This is not a very fast link
so be
 patient, MUST is to be moved to a faster link in the near future.

 The idea is to provide and easy step by step guide on how to install
Mandrake,
 connect to the Inetnet and set up the basics such as, FTP, Web, Email,
Smb,
 Squid, and the like for the Frst Time and New User to Linux, all
languages
 welcome.

 --
 Michael Doyle
 Adelaide, South Australia
 http://landofoz.apana.org.au




Re: [newbie] Re: Linux-Mandrake User Guide

1999-05-17 Thread Ripcrd6



Lorne Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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Another thing - if Mandrake is 100% compatible with RedHat
and KDE as they claim, why is upgrading to KDE 1.1.1 so
hard? KDE's install script doesn't work. That's not
compatibility!

Lorne.

I believe there was a post from someone at Mandrake here a couple of days
ago that explained this to us.   He said that the Redhat RPMs install to a
different directory than where Mandrake put them in their release.
Previously Redhat did not install KDE at all, but Mandrake did so as a
default.   On an upgrade you could install KDE where the RPM puts it and
then create a symlink from there to the old location.  You could also obtain
the source from KDE direct and place them in the current file location then
do your install (likely you will have to compile).   The Mandrake ver. 6.0
is supposed to take all this into account and put stuff where Redhat does to
remain compatible.   If you go to Mandrake 6.0 most likely you will have to
do  a full reinstall if your not sure what your doing.  Me, I'm sticking
with the default install of 5.3 for a while till I get the hang of things or
run into a major problem.   This is all a learning experience for me as I
had little exposure to Unix in college.   Only a few programming classes.
Rip
"A mind is a terrible thing."