Re: [newbie] SecurityUpdates and Kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk
Michael Viron wrote: At 09:44 PM 01/02/2002 -0500, Andre Dubuc wrote: Well, I finally got SoftwareUpdate to work again. Browsing through the updates I notice the new kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk. Now, I vaguely recall Civileme or someone else warning against updating the kernel through Update. I'm of the school If it ain't broke, don't fix it! -- is this update really necessary? I mean everything except AC97 sound recording works very well. Would you advise that I skip this update? Is it necessary? I'm a bit confused by the additional kernel stuff that's included with the update, i.e.: Kernel-source, kernel-linus 2.4, kernel 2.2 -- Do I upgrade all, or only the 2.4 items? -- These you do not have to install, since they only apply to kernel 2.2.x -- kernel22-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - main copy of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-secure-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - secured version of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-smp-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-source-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - source for 2.2.19 kernel -- End Do Not Need to Install -- kernel-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - main (base) kernel 2.4.8 kernel-doc-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel documents for 2.4.8 kernel-enterprise-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel supporting over 1 GB memory kernel-headers-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel headers kernel-linus2.2-2.2.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm - 2.2.20 kernel, linus style (ie, no mandrake patches) kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - 2.4.8 kernel module(s) for laptops kernel-smp-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.4.8 kernel kernel-source-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel source for 2.4.8 HTH, Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _Download_ the kernel stuff you want to update and then _install_ it with rpm -ivh kernel-(numbers)...rpm kernels were never ever meant for update. That gives you a new kernel with old system.map, initrd.img, and /lib/modules/(oldkernel) which usually results in an unworkable mess. It seems possible yet to fool Software Manager into -Uvh instead of -ivh for the kernel if you include a bunch of other packages in the same session. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SecurityUpdates and Kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk
On Thursday 03 January 2002 01:02, you wrote: At 09:44 PM 01/02/2002 -0500, Andre Dubuc wrote: Well, I finally got SoftwareUpdate to work again. Browsing through the updates I notice the new kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk. Now, I vaguely recall Civileme or someone else warning against updating the kernel through Update. I'm of the school If it ain't broke, don't fix it! -- is this update really necessary? I mean everything except AC97 sound recording works very well. Would you advise that I skip this update? Is it necessary? I'm a bit confused by the additional kernel stuff that's included with the update, i.e.: Kernel-source, kernel-linus 2.4, kernel 2.2 -- Do I upgrade all, or only the 2.4 items? -- These you do not have to install, since they only apply to kernel 2.2.x -- kernel22-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - main copy of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-secure-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - secured version of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-smp-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-source-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - source for 2.2.19 kernel -- End Do Not Need to Install -- kernel-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - main (base) kernel 2.4.8 kernel-doc-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel documents for 2.4.8 kernel-enterprise-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel supporting over 1 GB memory kernel-headers-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel headers kernel-linus2.2-2.2.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm - 2.2.20 kernel, linus style (ie, no mandrake patches) kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - 2.4.8 kernel module(s) for laptops kernel-smp-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.4.8 kernel kernel-source-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel source for 2.4.8 HTH, Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida - Thanks Michael! That's the info I was looking for: the functions of the various files. I think I'll pass on the upgrade. Everything is working fine. I'll upgrade later to 8.1 or 8.2. Thanks for your help. Regards, Andre Btw: Have a very Blessed New Year! -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember, in your prayers, the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly with His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] SecurityUpdates and Kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk
I think that kernel update is only to fix the symlink flaw found in linux recently.. its not likely to be a target, but some times it pays to be sure. don't use MandrakeUpdate to get the kernel, use a browser to go to the address that MandrakeUpdate is using (in define sources) and download the kernel rpm by itself that way.. then go to the directory that you saved it in and type: rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.8.i586.rpm (swapping the x for whatever the kernel name is) and hit enter. that will install the kernel along side the old one, so that if the install doesn't work, you have not hosed your old kernel and can still boot from that.. thats the only think wrong with using the 8.1 update to load your kernel.. if it doesnt' update perfectly, it will upgrade your current kernel, with a dud one, and you won't be able to boot anymore. Thats why you load it manually.. if you restart and select the new kernel from the lilo or grub menu and it works.. then great, uninstall the old kernel( I always leave it myself, just in case) or just move the new kernel to the top of the list (/boot/grub/menu.lst) or /etc/lilo.conf and it will then boot the new kernel by default. all you need is the kernel .i586 rpm, in your case kernel-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm don't worry about the others, they are either source packages, alternative 2.2 kernel series or the headers, docs and stuff, they are not needed to get your system booting the new kernel. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andre Dubuc Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2002 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] SecurityUpdates and Kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk Well, I finally got SoftwareUpdate to work again. Browsing through the updates I notice the new kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk. Now, I vaguely recall Civileme or someone else warning against updating the kernel through Update. I'm of the school If it ain't broke, don't fix it! -- is this update really necessary? I mean everything except AC97 sound recording works very well. Would you advise that I skip this update? Is it necessary? I'm a bit confused by the additional kernel stuff that's included with the update, i.e.: Kernel-source, kernel-linus 2.4, kernel 2.2 -- Do I upgrade all, or only the 2.4 items? Presently I'm running the stock LM8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20mdk. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to mess up my system that's working great for something that isn't necessary. Tia, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember, in your prayers, the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly with His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SecurityUpdates and Kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk
Well, I finally got SoftwareUpdate to work again. Browsing through the updates I notice the new kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk. Now, I vaguely recall Civileme or someone else warning against updating the kernel through Update. I'm of the school If it ain't broke, don't fix it! -- is this update really necessary? I mean everything except AC97 sound recording works very well. Would you advise that I skip this update? Is it necessary? I'm a bit confused by the additional kernel stuff that's included with the update, i.e.: Kernel-source, kernel-linus 2.4, kernel 2.2 -- Do I upgrade all, or only the 2.4 items? Presently I'm running the stock LM8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20mdk. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to mess up my system that's working great for something that isn't necessary. Tia, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember, in your prayers, the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly with His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SecurityUpdates and Kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk
At 09:44 PM 01/02/2002 -0500, Andre Dubuc wrote: Well, I finally got SoftwareUpdate to work again. Browsing through the updates I notice the new kernel 2.4.8-31.2mdk. Now, I vaguely recall Civileme or someone else warning against updating the kernel through Update. I'm of the school If it ain't broke, don't fix it! -- is this update really necessary? I mean everything except AC97 sound recording works very well. Would you advise that I skip this update? Is it necessary? I'm a bit confused by the additional kernel stuff that's included with the update, i.e.: Kernel-source, kernel-linus 2.4, kernel 2.2 -- Do I upgrade all, or only the 2.4 items? -- These you do not have to install, since they only apply to kernel 2.2.x -- kernel22-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - main copy of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-secure-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - secured version of the 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-smp-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.2.19 kernel kernel22-source-2.2.19-20.1mdk.i586.rpm - source for 2.2.19 kernel -- End Do Not Need to Install -- kernel-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - main (base) kernel 2.4.8 kernel-doc-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel documents for 2.4.8 kernel-enterprise-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel supporting over 1 GB memory kernel-headers-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel headers kernel-linus2.2-2.2.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm - 2.2.20 kernel, linus style (ie, no mandrake patches) kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - 2.4.8 kernel module(s) for laptops kernel-smp-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - multiprocessor 2.4.8 kernel kernel-source-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm - kernel source for 2.4.8 HTH, Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
