Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-16 Thread peter bunce

I agree with all this,   Spanish and english are after all dialects of latin
separated by 2000years

peter

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The curious part of this deal is that here have been other non-English
 messages in the last couple of months.  Why the stink this time?  If any
 given message isn't applicable to you bypass it; leave it for those that want
 to help others.
 I have read several postings about people intending to leave the newbie
 list over this whole stink.  I agree with others who have said what a shame
 that would be.  Maybe if we could get the mail server fixed so that there
 weren't so many duplications everybody's stress level would go down.  Or
 maybe some of the flamethrower people need to grow up.  In the mean-time
 anybody can deal with anything that displeases them in the same way, delete
 key.  It's much bettter that wasting over 3,000 people's time (and in some
 cases phone charges).  I know that some out there discount what I say (or
 block messages) because my ISP is aol.  That poor regard of a temporary
 practicality is also regretable [YES, I would LOVE to get those people out of
 my pocket, and I will when I can!].  I feel that do I contribute a little
 here, and I feel that it's their loss if they delete key.
 I would like to appologize to the Spanish speaking person at the butt of
 this and say to you that if you will try to communicate with us, we will try
 to help you.  I honor your desire to express yourself well rather than mangle
 English.  I also respect people who try to communicate with me dispite MY
 handicap (of not being able to speak their language).  I was flamed over a
 matter of computing history, which I felt affected everybody including Linux
 people, if that helps you to feel any better about your bad treatment here.
 Remember to treat critics with the delete key!
 Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I never did deal with "stupid" very
 well.  In general it sounds like people need to lighten up and get
 reasonable!
   -Gary-

 In a message dated 9/14/2000 11:40:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi Folks,

  I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
  question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
  linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
  flame-ing each other.

  If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
  all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
  spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
  italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.

  yours
 Denis
  --
  -
  Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik
  Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
   







Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-16 Thread Mark Weaver

Good point Peter!  :)

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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, peter bunce wrote:

 I agree with all this,   Spanish and english are after all dialects of latin
 separated by 2000years
 
 peter
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The curious part of this deal is that here have been other non-English
  messages in the last couple of months.  Why the stink this time?  If any
  given message isn't applicable to you bypass it; leave it for those that want
  to help others.
  I have read several postings about people intending to leave the newbie
  list over this whole stink.  I agree with others who have said what a shame
  that would be.  Maybe if we could get the mail server fixed so that there
  weren't so many duplications everybody's stress level would go down.  Or
  maybe some of the flamethrower people need to grow up.  In the mean-time
  anybody can deal with anything that displeases them in the same way, delete
  key.  It's much bettter that wasting over 3,000 people's time (and in some
  cases phone charges).  I know that some out there discount what I say (or
  block messages) because my ISP is aol.  That poor regard of a temporary
  practicality is also regretable [YES, I would LOVE to get those people out of
  my pocket, and I will when I can!].  I feel that do I contribute a little
  here, and I feel that it's their loss if they delete key.
  I would like to appologize to the Spanish speaking person at the butt of
  this and say to you that if you will try to communicate with us, we will try
  to help you.  I honor your desire to express yourself well rather than mangle
  English.  I also respect people who try to communicate with me dispite MY
  handicap (of not being able to speak their language).  I was flamed over a
  matter of computing history, which I felt affected everybody including Linux
  people, if that helps you to feel any better about your bad treatment here.
  Remember to treat critics with the delete key!
  Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I never did deal with "stupid" very
  well.  In general it sounds like people need to lighten up and get
  reasonable!
-Gary-
 
  In a message dated 9/14/2000 11:40:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Hi Folks,
 
   I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
   question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
   linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
   flame-ing each other.
 
   If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
   all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
   spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
   italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.
 
   yours
  Denis
   --
   -
   Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik
   Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

 
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-15 Thread Roger Pithers

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Greg Stewart wrote:
 
   I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/
   Kathleen
  Thank you. :-)
  --Greg
 
 *blink*
 
 Ouch.
 
 I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts
 recently, but apparently I wasn't.
 
 I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments
 helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub...
 
 Thanks for the tip.
 
 Kathleen

Kathleen,
Please don't unsub, I for one enjoy your comments and often find your mails
helpful.

Roger




Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-15 Thread patrick

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Greg Stewart wrote:
 
   I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/
   Kathleen
  Thank you. :-)
  --Greg
 
 *blink*
 
 Ouch.
 
 I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts
 recently, but apparently I wasn't.
 
 I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments
 helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub...
 
 Thanks for the tip.
 
 Kathleen

kathleen, why are u listening so closely to people that complain.





Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-15 Thread Mark Weaver

Well said Denis...Well said.

Mark

Denis Havlik wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
 question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
 linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
 flame-ing each other.
 
 If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
 all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
 spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
 italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.
 
 yours
 Denis
 --
 -
 Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik
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Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-15 Thread GAPrichard

The curious part of this deal is that here have been other non-English 
messages in the last couple of months.  Why the stink this time?  If any 
given message isn't applicable to you bypass it; leave it for those that want 
to help others.
I have read several postings about people intending to leave the newbie 
list over this whole stink.  I agree with others who have said what a shame 
that would be.  Maybe if we could get the mail server fixed so that there 
weren't so many duplications everybody's stress level would go down.  Or 
maybe some of the flamethrower people need to grow up.  In the mean-time 
anybody can deal with anything that displeases them in the same way, delete 
key.  It's much bettter that wasting over 3,000 people's time (and in some 
cases phone charges).  I know that some out there discount what I say (or 
block messages) because my ISP is aol.  That poor regard of a temporary 
practicality is also regretable [YES, I would LOVE to get those people out of 
my pocket, and I will when I can!].  I feel that do I contribute a little 
here, and I feel that it's their loss if they delete key.  
I would like to appologize to the Spanish speaking person at the butt of 
this and say to you that if you will try to communicate with us, we will try 
to help you.  I honor your desire to express yourself well rather than mangle 
English.  I also respect people who try to communicate with me dispite MY 
handicap (of not being able to speak their language).  I was flamed over a 
matter of computing history, which I felt affected everybody including Linux 
people, if that helps you to feel any better about your bad treatment here.  
Remember to treat critics with the delete key!   
Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I never did deal with "stupid" very 
well.  In general it sounds like people need to lighten up and get 
reasonable!  
  -Gary-

In a message dated 9/14/2000 11:40:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Folks,
 
 I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
 question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
 linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
 flame-ing each other.   
 
 If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
 all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
 spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
 italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.
 
 yours
Denis 
 -- 
 -
 Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik
 Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
  





Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-15 Thread Mark Weaver

Kathleen,

I enjoy your sense of humor and your comments. PLease stay.

-- 
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote:

 Greg Stewart wrote:
 
   I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/
   Kathleen
  Thank you. :-)
  --Greg
 
 *blink*
 
 Ouch.
 
 I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts
 recently, but apparently I wasn't.
 
 I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments
 helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub...
 
 Thanks for the tip.
 
 Kathleen
 
 
 
 





[newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Denis Havlik

Hi Folks,

I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
flame-ing each other.   

If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.

yours
Denis 
-- 
-
Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik
Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Paul

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Denis Havlik wrote:

Hi Folks,

I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
flame-ing each other.   

If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.

I second that!

Paul

--
In a world without walls and fences
who needs windows or gates?

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
  -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-





Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread patrick

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
 question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
 linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
 flame-ing each other.   
 
 If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
 all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
 spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
 italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.
 
 yours
   Denis 


i agree with dennis completely. lets open up this newsgroup
not try to keep it to ourselves. 

love love love da da da da
love love love da da da 
love love love its easy
da da da  da da da


get it :)



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Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Eugene C. Zesch

Denis Havlik wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,
 
Amen, Denis
You perfectly summarized my feelings on this. BTW, though I couldnt help
with the question, Babelfish gave me a fairly clear idea of his
question. A neat resource!!
Gene




 I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
 question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
 linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
 flame-ing each other.
 
 If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
 all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
 spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
 italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.
 
 yours
 Denis




Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Hear, hear.

Kathleen

Paul wrote:

 On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Denis Havlik wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
 question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
 linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
 flame-ing each other.
 
 If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
 all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
 spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
 italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.

 I second that!

 Paul

 --
 In a world without walls and fences
 who needs windows or gates?

 http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
   -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-





Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Yay Eugene!!  I did the same thing (Babelfish) but couldn't help either.

Kathleen,
who will put away the pom-poms and stop acting like a cheerleader now

"Eugene C. Zesch" wrote:

 Denis Havlik wrote:
 
  Hi Folks,
 
 Amen, Denis
 You perfectly summarized my feelings on this. BTW, though I couldnt help
 with the question, Babelfish gave me a fairly clear idea of his
 question. A neat resource!!
 Gene

  I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a
  question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of
  linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than
  flame-ing each other.
 
  If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and
  all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often,
  spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and
  italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers.
 
  yours
  Denis





Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Kathleen Dickason

dwyatt wrote:

 LOL!  A message group on the Internet without flaming?  Such a thing
 does not exist my friend.  :)

Just for the record, we're on a mailing list, not a Usenet group...and I would
hope such a thing would exist.

 And in all actuality I didn't read a single intentional flame in the whole
 thread.  The first guy just misunderstood (understandable, since the post
 wasn't in the lists' native tounge) the post for spam.  Since then there has
 been not a single flame.

There's been a lot of arguing, though.

I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/

Kathleen





Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread dwyatt

I used the generic term "message" and not "news" or "mailing list", because
both news groups and mailing lists are subject to the same kind of flaming.


dwyatt

- Original Message -
From: "Kathleen Dickason" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Spanish  co.


 dwyatt wrote:

  LOL!  A message group on the Internet without flaming?  Such a thing
  does not exist my friend.  :)

 Just for the record, we're on a mailing list, not a Usenet group...and I
would
 hope such a thing would exist.

  And in all actuality I didn't read a single intentional flame in the
whole
  thread.  The first guy just misunderstood (understandable, since the
post
  wasn't in the lists' native tounge) the post for spam.  Since then there
has
  been not a single flame.

 There's been a lot of arguing, though.

 I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/

 Kathleen







Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Greg Stewart

 I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/
 
 Kathleen

Thank you. :-)

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Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Daniel J. Ferris

Kathleen Dickason wrote:
 
 Yay Eugene!!  I did the same thing (Babelfish) but couldn't help either.
 
 Kathleen,
 who will put away the pom-poms and stop acting like a cheerleader now

Ra Ra Re,  Kick em in the Knee.

Ra Ra Ri, Kick em in the eye

Ra Ra err...never mind...

Dan




Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Greg Stewart wrote:

  I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/
  Kathleen
 Thank you. :-)
 --Greg

*blink*

Ouch.

I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts
recently, but apparently I wasn't.

I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments
helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub...

Thanks for the tip.

Kathleen






Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Larry Marshall

Kathleen Dickason wrote:
 

 I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments
 helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub...

Maybe it's time for everyone to lighten up just abit.  Didn't you
notice Greg's smily emoticon?  Let's get a grip folks - life's too
short to take yourself so seriously.

Cheers --- Larry




Re: [newbie] Spanish co.

2000-09-14 Thread Greg Stewart

Sorry Kathleen,

That wasn't mean as a dig, only as an acknowledgement of your inference that
you undertsand the whole mess seems to be taking a bit long fizzle. Of
course I could have made it more obvious... "my bad" (I hate that phrase!
But, it applies.) And, I could have made that first senetence a bit better
at that. I honestly wasn't trying to be hostile.

You may kick me now, if you wish.

--Greg




- Original Message -
From: "Kathleen Dickason" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Greg Stewart wrote:

   I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/
   Kathleen
  Thank you. :-)
  --Greg

 *blink*

 Ouch.

 I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic
posts
 recently, but apparently I wasn't.

 I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my
coments
 helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to
unsub...

 Thanks for the tip.

 Kathleen




 
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