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I agree with all this, Spanish and english are after all dialects of latin separated by 2000years peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The curious part of this deal is that here have been other non-English messages in the last couple of months. Why the stink this time? If any given message isn't applicable to you bypass it; leave it for those that want to help others. I have read several postings about people intending to leave the newbie list over this whole stink. I agree with others who have said what a shame that would be. Maybe if we could get the mail server fixed so that there weren't so many duplications everybody's stress level would go down. Or maybe some of the flamethrower people need to grow up. In the mean-time anybody can deal with anything that displeases them in the same way, delete key. It's much bettter that wasting over 3,000 people's time (and in some cases phone charges). I know that some out there discount what I say (or block messages) because my ISP is aol. That poor regard of a temporary practicality is also regretable [YES, I would LOVE to get those people out of my pocket, and I will when I can!]. I feel that do I contribute a little here, and I feel that it's their loss if they delete key. I would like to appologize to the Spanish speaking person at the butt of this and say to you that if you will try to communicate with us, we will try to help you. I honor your desire to express yourself well rather than mangle English. I also respect people who try to communicate with me dispite MY handicap (of not being able to speak their language). I was flamed over a matter of computing history, which I felt affected everybody including Linux people, if that helps you to feel any better about your bad treatment here. Remember to treat critics with the delete key! Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I never did deal with "stupid" very well. In general it sounds like people need to lighten up and get reasonable! -Gary- In a message dated 9/14/2000 11:40:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Good point Peter! :) -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, peter bunce wrote: I agree with all this, Spanish and english are after all dialects of latin separated by 2000years peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The curious part of this deal is that here have been other non-English messages in the last couple of months. Why the stink this time? If any given message isn't applicable to you bypass it; leave it for those that want to help others. I have read several postings about people intending to leave the newbie list over this whole stink. I agree with others who have said what a shame that would be. Maybe if we could get the mail server fixed so that there weren't so many duplications everybody's stress level would go down. Or maybe some of the flamethrower people need to grow up. In the mean-time anybody can deal with anything that displeases them in the same way, delete key. It's much bettter that wasting over 3,000 people's time (and in some cases phone charges). I know that some out there discount what I say (or block messages) because my ISP is aol. That poor regard of a temporary practicality is also regretable [YES, I would LOVE to get those people out of my pocket, and I will when I can!]. I feel that do I contribute a little here, and I feel that it's their loss if they delete key. I would like to appologize to the Spanish speaking person at the butt of this and say to you that if you will try to communicate with us, we will try to help you. I honor your desire to express yourself well rather than mangle English. I also respect people who try to communicate with me dispite MY handicap (of not being able to speak their language). I was flamed over a matter of computing history, which I felt affected everybody including Linux people, if that helps you to feel any better about your bad treatment here. Remember to treat critics with the delete key! Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I never did deal with "stupid" very well. In general it sounds like people need to lighten up and get reasonable! -Gary- In a message dated 9/14/2000 11:40:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Greg Stewart wrote: I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen Thank you. :-) --Greg *blink* Ouch. I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts recently, but apparently I wasn't. I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub... Thanks for the tip. Kathleen Kathleen, Please don't unsub, I for one enjoy your comments and often find your mails helpful. Roger
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote: Greg Stewart wrote: I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen Thank you. :-) --Greg *blink* Ouch. I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts recently, but apparently I wasn't. I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub... Thanks for the tip. Kathleen kathleen, why are u listening so closely to people that complain.
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Well said Denis...Well said. Mark Denis Havlik wrote: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [newbie] Spanish co.
The curious part of this deal is that here have been other non-English messages in the last couple of months. Why the stink this time? If any given message isn't applicable to you bypass it; leave it for those that want to help others. I have read several postings about people intending to leave the newbie list over this whole stink. I agree with others who have said what a shame that would be. Maybe if we could get the mail server fixed so that there weren't so many duplications everybody's stress level would go down. Or maybe some of the flamethrower people need to grow up. In the mean-time anybody can deal with anything that displeases them in the same way, delete key. It's much bettter that wasting over 3,000 people's time (and in some cases phone charges). I know that some out there discount what I say (or block messages) because my ISP is aol. That poor regard of a temporary practicality is also regretable [YES, I would LOVE to get those people out of my pocket, and I will when I can!]. I feel that do I contribute a little here, and I feel that it's their loss if they delete key. I would like to appologize to the Spanish speaking person at the butt of this and say to you that if you will try to communicate with us, we will try to help you. I honor your desire to express yourself well rather than mangle English. I also respect people who try to communicate with me dispite MY handicap (of not being able to speak their language). I was flamed over a matter of computing history, which I felt affected everybody including Linux people, if that helps you to feel any better about your bad treatment here. Remember to treat critics with the delete key! Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I never did deal with "stupid" very well. In general it sounds like people need to lighten up and get reasonable! -Gary- In a message dated 9/14/2000 11:40:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Kathleen, I enjoy your sense of humor and your comments. PLease stay. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Greg Stewart wrote: I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen Thank you. :-) --Greg *blink* Ouch. I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts recently, but apparently I wasn't. I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub... Thanks for the tip. Kathleen
[newbie] Spanish co.
Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Denis Havlik wrote: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. I second that! Paul -- In a world without walls and fences who needs windows or gates? http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Spanish co.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis i agree with dennis completely. lets open up this newsgroup not try to keep it to ourselves. love love love da da da da love love love da da da love love love its easy da da da da da da get it :) -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Denis Havlik wrote: Hi Folks, Amen, Denis You perfectly summarized my feelings on this. BTW, though I couldnt help with the question, Babelfish gave me a fairly clear idea of his question. A neat resource!! Gene I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis
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Hear, hear. Kathleen Paul wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Denis Havlik wrote: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. I second that! Paul -- In a world without walls and fences who needs windows or gates? http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
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Yay Eugene!! I did the same thing (Babelfish) but couldn't help either. Kathleen, who will put away the pom-poms and stop acting like a cheerleader now "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Denis Havlik wrote: Hi Folks, Amen, Denis You perfectly summarized my feelings on this. BTW, though I couldnt help with the question, Babelfish gave me a fairly clear idea of his question. A neat resource!! Gene I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis
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dwyatt wrote: LOL! A message group on the Internet without flaming? Such a thing does not exist my friend. :) Just for the record, we're on a mailing list, not a Usenet group...and I would hope such a thing would exist. And in all actuality I didn't read a single intentional flame in the whole thread. The first guy just misunderstood (understandable, since the post wasn't in the lists' native tounge) the post for spam. Since then there has been not a single flame. There's been a lot of arguing, though. I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen
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I used the generic term "message" and not "news" or "mailing list", because both news groups and mailing lists are subject to the same kind of flaming. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Kathleen Dickason" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Spanish co. dwyatt wrote: LOL! A message group on the Internet without flaming? Such a thing does not exist my friend. :) Just for the record, we're on a mailing list, not a Usenet group...and I would hope such a thing would exist. And in all actuality I didn't read a single intentional flame in the whole thread. The first guy just misunderstood (understandable, since the post wasn't in the lists' native tounge) the post for spam. Since then there has been not a single flame. There's been a lot of arguing, though. I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen
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I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen Thank you. :-) --Greg __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
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Kathleen Dickason wrote: Yay Eugene!! I did the same thing (Babelfish) but couldn't help either. Kathleen, who will put away the pom-poms and stop acting like a cheerleader now Ra Ra Re, Kick em in the Knee. Ra Ra Ri, Kick em in the eye Ra Ra err...never mind... Dan
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Greg Stewart wrote: I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen Thank you. :-) --Greg *blink* Ouch. I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts recently, but apparently I wasn't. I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub... Thanks for the tip. Kathleen
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Kathleen Dickason wrote: I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub... Maybe it's time for everyone to lighten up just abit. Didn't you notice Greg's smily emoticon? Let's get a grip folks - life's too short to take yourself so seriously. Cheers --- Larry
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Sorry Kathleen, That wasn't mean as a dig, only as an acknowledgement of your inference that you undertsand the whole mess seems to be taking a bit long fizzle. Of course I could have made it more obvious... "my bad" (I hate that phrase! But, it applies.) And, I could have made that first senetence a bit better at that. I honestly wasn't trying to be hostile. You may kick me now, if you wish. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Kathleen Dickason" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Stewart wrote: I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen Thank you. :-) --Greg *blink* Ouch. I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts recently, but apparently I wasn't. I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub... Thanks for the tip. Kathleen __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif