Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
Hi Anne, I am running OpenOffice on a Pentium 450 laptop with 191 RAM without any problems. I don't think the problem is the power of your machine. Good luck! Andrei __ Linux-Mandrake 9 (Dolphin) Mandrake Club Silver Member Registered Linux user: 226850 Registered Linux computer: 183163 On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 11:02 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 06:57, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. Anne OK - I've tied it down a bit more. It always happens if I highlight more than a few lines. Does that suggest anything? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 12:09 pm, Andrei Raevsky wrote: Hi Anne, I am running OpenOffice on a Pentium 450 laptop with 191 RAM without any problems. I don't think the problem is the power of your machine. Thanks for that, Andrei Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 5:37 am, Paul wrote: In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:25:17 +: On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 8:11 pm, civileme wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I have heard (with no proof though) that sometimes this can happen when the system has some faulty memory which gets accessed. If you have 2 or more memory modules, you could try to remove one temporarily and see if that helps. It might come to that, Paul, but I'm reluctant as it doesn't happen in any other app. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Wed, January 22 2003 6:06 am, Anne Wilson wrote: *snip* OK - I've tied it down a bit more. It always happens if I highlight more than a few lines. Does that suggest anything? *insert smart-aleck remark* Well.. you could always only highlight one line at a time. :) -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- Take what you can use and let the rest go by. -- Ken Kesey Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 16:37, Paul wrote: In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:25:17 +: On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 8:11 pm, civileme wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I have heard (with no proof though) that sometimes this can happen when the system has some faulty memory which gets accessed. If you have 2 or more memory modules, you could try to remove one temporarily and see if that helps. Paul This is a repeat of an issue we had in here a few months back with a user that was constantly being knocked back to the KDM/GDM/XDM - and it turned out to be either session settings or screensaver settings - best to look for that prior to mucking around with the physical machine. Either which, if there is a problem with the RAM, you'd know it right off the bat - the kernel would be choking and puking on that as the kernel writes to RAM during the boot phase... -- Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:25:00 +1100 9:25pm up 6 days, 7:08, 4 users, load average: 0.06, 0.15, 0.13 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Hard Copies and Chmod And everyone thinks computers are impersonal cold diskdrives hardware monitors user-hostile software of course they're only bits and bytes and characters and strings and files just some old textfiles from my old boyfriend telling me he loves me and he'll take care of me simply a discarded printout of a friend's directory deep intimate secrets and how he doesn't trust me couldn't hurt me more if they were scented in lavender or mould on personal stationery -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
Thanks Greg bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the system logs will be under /var/log/ bascule On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 2:07 am, Greg wrote: I had the same trouble with my system just once Where are the system logs so I can check them Thanks Greg -- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. (The Fifth Elephant) -- Linux The Number one Os __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. Anne It is more likely a problem with your hardware and the kernel's implementation of APIC, which is by no means universal in scope yet. Try booting with linux noapic (esc at the boot screen then type in linux noapic without the quotes and enter. If that solves the problem, add a noapic to the append line of each linux boot in your boot configuration. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 8:11 pm, civileme wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. It is more likely a problem with your hardware and the kernel's implementation of APIC, which is by no means universal in scope yet. Try booting with linux noapic (esc at the boot screen then type in linux noapic without the quotes and enter. If that solves the problem, add a noapic to the append line of each linux boot in your boot configuration. In my dismay I wrongly described it - I should have said sponataneous logouts, not re-boots. However, I am trying your solution at this moment, so we'll see if it helps. I had Gnome Monitor running just before it went down, and nothing looked untoward then. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 8:11 pm, civileme wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. Anne It is more likely a problem with your hardware and the kernel's implementation of APIC, which is by no means universal in scope yet. Try booting with linux noapic (esc at the boot screen then type in linux noapic without the quotes and enter. If that solves the problem, add a noapic to the append line of each linux boot in your boot configuration. I guess we'll never know what started it. The noapic didn't have any effect - it immediately logged out. I had to restore an old backup and lose today's work. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 06:57, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. Anne What does it report in the system logs prior to the reboot? It's rather strange that LINUX would randomly reboot...unless it's something to do with the way you've set up your heat sensoring on the machine... -- Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:00:00 +1100 10:00am up 5 days, 19:43, 5 users, load average: 0.04, 0.10, 0.13 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I have to think hard to name an interesting man who does not drink. -- Richard Burton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
I had the same trouble with my system just once Where are the system logs so I can check them Thanks Greg Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 06:57, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I know Althlon 900 is not high spec these days, but it's not that bad. And with 512 Mb RAM I wouldn't have expected problems. Anne What does it report in the system logs prior to the reboot? It's rather strange that LINUX would randomly reboot...unless it's something to do with the way you've set up your heat sensoring on the machine... -- Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:00:00 +1100 10:00am up 5 days, 19:43, 5 users, load average: 0.04, 0.10, 0.13 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I have to think hard to name an interesting man who does not drink. -- Richard Burton -- Linux The Number one Os __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
the system logs will be under /var/log/ bascule On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 2:07 am, Greg wrote: I had the same trouble with my system just once Where are the system logs so I can check them Thanks Greg -- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. (The Fifth Elephant) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous re-boots
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:25:17 +: On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 8:11 pm, civileme wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Once again I am encountering spontaneous re-boots in Star/OpenOffice. It feels as though I hit some sort of ceiling, out of some resource. There must be some way I can see what's going on? I have heard (with no proof though) that sometimes this can happen when the system has some faulty memory which gets accessed. If you have 2 or more memory modules, you could try to remove one temporarily and see if that helps. Paul -- After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one. -Cato the Elder http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
