Re: [newbie] Start modem without netcfg?
Steve Philp wrote: "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Steve Philp wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Mulvaney, Jerry wrote: Everything works great under Mandrake 6.0, but I can't find out how to start a dial up connection without starting X and running netcfg. Can I do this from the command line? Thanks! ***There's a fine line between an attitude problem and thinking clearly*** ifup ppp0 And since /sbin isn't in a normal user's path, it's: /sbin/ifup ppp0 for a normal user. OK, stupid question time (forgive me I'm not anywhere my linux box and been having a brain fart all day). Isn't the /sbin directory where all "system binary's" go to live their happy little lives, if so wouldn't these be protected and why would an ordinary user have access to them, or does each user have an /sbin directory with copies (or links) back to the files in an administrator/system directory? (see why I was looking for a hierarchy of the file system earlier 8-)). You're correct, /sbin is where system binaries go (actually, I think the historic purpose of the directory was for statically linked binaries -- you could use them to recover the system incase of shared library failures). For a "normal" Unix system, you really wouldn't want normal users having access to bringing interfaces up and down. I certainly wouldn't want it. But, we're not really dealing with "normal Unix systems" when you're talking about home systems. PPP interfaces are brought up and down at will and normal users need to be able to control them. As for the later part, there is only one /sbin, not a directory per user. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] OTAY, I tend to treat my home systems as a real life work system, between the wife I we have 5 kids and I figured it best to get them used to the real world but still be able to teach them "system" goodies should any of them show any interest. Thanks -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Start modem without netcfg?
Steve Philp wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Mulvaney, Jerry wrote: Everything works great under Mandrake 6.0, but I can't find out how to start a dial up connection without starting X and running netcfg. Can I do this from the command line? Thanks! ***There's a fine line between an attitude problem and thinking clearly*** ifup ppp0 And since /sbin isn't in a normal user's path, it's: /sbin/ifup ppp0 for a normal user. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, stupid question time (forgive me I'm not anywhere my linux box and been having a brain fart all day). Isn't the /sbin directory where all "system binary's" go to live their happy little lives, if so wouldn't these be protected and why would an ordinary user have access to them, or does each user have an /sbin directory with copies (or links) back to the files in an administrator/system directory? (see why I was looking for a hierarchy of the file system earlier 8-)). Dazed and Confused Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Start modem without netcfg?
"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Steve Philp wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Mulvaney, Jerry wrote: Everything works great under Mandrake 6.0, but I can't find out how to start a dial up connection without starting X and running netcfg. Can I do this from the command line? Thanks! ***There's a fine line between an attitude problem and thinking clearly*** ifup ppp0 And since /sbin isn't in a normal user's path, it's: /sbin/ifup ppp0 for a normal user. OK, stupid question time (forgive me I'm not anywhere my linux box and been having a brain fart all day). Isn't the /sbin directory where all "system binary's" go to live their happy little lives, if so wouldn't these be protected and why would an ordinary user have access to them, or does each user have an /sbin directory with copies (or links) back to the files in an administrator/system directory? (see why I was looking for a hierarchy of the file system earlier 8-)). You're correct, /sbin is where system binaries go (actually, I think the historic purpose of the directory was for statically linked binaries -- you could use them to recover the system incase of shared library failures). For a "normal" Unix system, you really wouldn't want normal users having access to bringing interfaces up and down. I certainly wouldn't want it. But, we're not really dealing with "normal Unix systems" when you're talking about home systems. PPP interfaces are brought up and down at will and normal users need to be able to control them. As for the later part, there is only one /sbin, not a directory per user. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Start modem without netcfg?
I assume that you want to get on the net, and that you can use a modem. If this is true, then you can use kppp in the KDE desktop environment under the Internet menu option, to provide the needed information about your service provider, or you can use the linuxconfig utility either from the command line, or from inside the Gnome desktop environment. These two utilities do about the same thing, but they do not share information. If you use linuxconfig from the command line, you can use the "ifup ppp0" command to start the dialup connection, and the "ifdown ppp0" command to log off. I hope this helps a little, although a more specific request would be of help. Ernie - Original Message - From: Mulvaney, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 7:31 AM Subject: [newbie] Start modem without netcfg? Everything works great under Mandrake 6.0, but I can't find out how to start a dial up connection without starting X and running netcfg. Can I do this from the command line? Thanks! ***There's a fine line between an attitude problem and thinking clearly***
[newbie] Start modem without netcfg?
Everything works great under Mandrake 6.0, but I can't find out how to start a dial up connection without starting X and running netcfg. Can I do this from the command line? Thanks! ***There's a fine line between an attitude problem and thinking clearly***
Re: [newbie] Start modem without netcfg?
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Mulvaney, Jerry wrote: Everything works great under Mandrake 6.0, but I can't find out how to start a dial up connection without starting X and running netcfg. Can I do this from the command line? Thanks! ***There's a fine line between an attitude problem and thinking clearly*** ifup ppp0 -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Start modem without netcfg?
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Mulvaney, Jerry wrote: Everything works great under Mandrake 6.0, but I can't find out how to start a dial up connection without starting X and running netcfg. Can I do this from the command line? Thanks! ***There's a fine line between an attitude problem and thinking clearly*** ifup ppp0 And since /sbin isn't in a normal user's path, it's: /sbin/ifup ppp0 for a normal user. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
