Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 1:24 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks for adding that. To further clarify, the urpmi.setup config app was created to be a gui alternative to adding sources at the command line. Some people like the cli, others like the gui. I think the cli is often attractive once some confidence is gained, but the problem is that you have to know exactly what is required to achieve the desired end. At the early stages, the gui can often give you more idea of what you need to do. Still, each to his own g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:30 am, Joe Hill wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003 07:53:41 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you knew about it, why did you make like it did not exist? If you wanted to know how to use it, ask how to use it. aaasy...take a dep cleansing breath, stretch your legs, think about a sunny meadow...then smoke a bg fat... Sorry if that came out wrong. I did not think I was being disrespectful when I posted, but I think it is a legitimate question for the OP. Why did you say you wish a tool exists, and then when someone points out it does exist you say you knew about it but didn't know how to use it? The only answer I can think of is that OP knew about urpmi but did not fully understand its capabilities, which would be a very legitimate answer. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
Won't that job run both commands at the same time? don't you need a ; rather than to separate the 2 commands? Tony. -Original Message- From: stormjumper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates if you have urpmi properly set up and working, setting a cron job to run, say, every morning at 3am urpmi.update -a urpmi --update --auto-select --auto should keep your system properly updated with security updates - Original Message - From: Cody Harris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 08:44 Subject: [newbie] Surprized At Updates I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
At 09:00 PM 5/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:44 pm, Cody Harris wrote: I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. Didn't you ever hear of URPMI? Yes, but i've been told it needs a source to be set up to update. I don't know what source to use. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 06:29 am, Cody Harris wrote: At 09:00 PM 5/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:44 pm, Cody Harris wrote: I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. Didn't you ever hear of URPMI? Yes, but i've been told it needs a source to be set up to update. I don't know what source to use. Well, if you knew about it, why did you make like it did not exist? If you wanted to know how to use it, ask how to use it. You need 'urpmi.setup'. If it is not installed, type as root 'urpmi urpmi.setup' and then 'urpmi.setup' and set up your sources. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 03:26 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Won't that job run both commands at the same time? don't you need a ; rather than to separate the 2 commands? The prevents the second one from running if the first one does not complete successfully. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 12:53 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 28 May 2003 06:29 am, Cody Harris wrote: At 09:00 PM 5/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:44 pm, Cody Harris wrote: I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. Didn't you ever hear of URPMI? Yes, but i've been told it needs a source to be set up to update. I don't know what source to use. Well, if you knew about it, why did you make like it did not exist? If you wanted to know how to use it, ask how to use it. You need 'urpmi.setup'. If it is not installed, type as root 'urpmi urpmi.setup' and then 'urpmi.setup' and set up your sources. Greg - I have to say that when I first met this I did not find it at all easy to set up. You have to know what it is expecting to achieve anything - at least unless they have changed it a good deal. So I'm going to quote an old email that might help: qhote Contribs are rpms that aren't officially in the distro and are semi-supported by MDK in that they are actually packaged by the community not by MDK's people. (Rough explanation... sorry for any inaccuracy.) A good place to find info on mirrors and get the instructions you'll need for adding them to urpmi is http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php (Yep plf to the rescue!) just click in the box on the left choose your mirror and at the bottom it will spit out the string you need to enter to make urpmi aware of it. Contribs btw is the second one from the top. /quote Of course updates is the one you want, but you should find it from here. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Greg - I have to say that when I first met this I did not find it at all easy to set up. You have to know what it is expecting to achieve anything - at least unless they have changed it a good deal. So I'm going to quote an old email that might help: qhote Contribs are rpms that aren't officially in the distro and are semi-supported by MDK in that they are actually packaged by the community not by MDK's people. (Rough explanation... sorry for any inaccuracy.) A good place to find info on mirrors and get the instructions you'll need for adding them to urpmi is http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php (Yep plf to the rescue!) just click in the box on the left choose your mirror and at the bottom it will spit out the string you need to enter to make urpmi aware of it. Contribs btw is the second one from the top. /quote Of course updates is the one you want, but you should find it from here. HTH Thanks for adding that. To further clarify, the urpmi.setup config app was created to be a gui alternative to adding sources at the command line. Some people like the cli, others like the gui. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Surprized At Updates
I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
On Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:44 pm, Cody Harris wrote: I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. Didn't you ever hear of URPMI? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
if you have urpmi properly set up and working, setting a cron job to run, say, every morning at 3am urpmi.update -a urpmi --update --auto-select --auto should keep your system properly updated with security updates - Original Message - From: Cody Harris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 08:44 Subject: [newbie] Surprized At Updates I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
