Re: [newbie] Trouble making a boot floppy
On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:49 am, iggy wrote: On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:10 am, mudder wrote: Hello Has anyone had trouble creating a boot disk? I've been playing around with this since the first beta, and have had problems with the boot floppy.From the first beta through RC2 I would get something like the following Boot: loading vmlinuz.(17 periods) boot failed: Please change disks and press a key to continue I just loaded RC3 this morning and it is telling me that the boot floppy is not a bootable disk. Anyone have any advice? I have installed Elx Linux, Lycoris Desktop LX, and Mandrake 8.2 and have not had this problem. The floppy drive is a Epson SD-800 3-1/2 5-1/4 combination drive. Any help would be appreciated Epson SD-800 3-1/2 5-1/4 combination drive? shame on you ;^) did you try the simple things first? disk drives fail, diskettes go bad, etc. have you tried replacing the diskette? replacing the drive? by the way, you didn't try to make a 5-1/4 the boot disk? there may not be enough room on one of those for all the info. good luck. -iggy ps, assuming hardware failure first. btw, were you able to create a boot disk whene you first installed rc3? Shame on me?? I need the 5-1/4 drive because I program some older types of gearcutting machines that use old computers and 5-1/4 360k floppy disks. (yea, I'm old. But not too old to learn something new.) I have installed Elx Linux, Lycoris Desktop LX, and Mandrake 8.2 all in the last few days and I was using brand new disks. I was able to write a disk when I installed rc3 and in a terminal window I can see that it has these files on it. boot.msg initrd.img syslinux.cfg and vmlinuz and it tells me that it is not bootable? I am able to format disks inside of linux, write text files and read them on other machines in both drives. And I had just installed mandrake 8.2 last night and all was well. I'm going out to buy a floppy drive later on today, buy I have a hard time believing that the drive is bad given all of the conditions that I see here. Thanks for replying so fast. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble making a boot floppy
On Thursday 19 September 2002 11:21 am, mudder wrote: On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:49 am, iggy wrote: On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:10 am, mudder wrote: Hello Has anyone had trouble creating a boot disk? I've been playing around with this since the first beta, and have had problems with the boot floppy.From the first beta through RC2 I would get something like the following Boot: loading vmlinuz.(17 periods) boot failed: Please change disks and press a key to continue I just loaded RC3 this morning and it is telling me that the boot floppy is not a bootable disk. Anyone have any advice? I have installed Elx Linux, Lycoris Desktop LX, and Mandrake 8.2 and have not had this problem. The floppy drive is a Epson SD-800 3-1/2 5-1/4 combination drive. Any help would be appreciated Epson SD-800 3-1/2 5-1/4 combination drive? shame on you ;^) did you try the simple things first? disk drives fail, diskettes go bad, etc. have you tried replacing the diskette? replacing the drive? by the way, you didn't try to make a 5-1/4 the boot disk? there may not be enough room on one of those for all the info. good luck. -iggy ps, assuming hardware failure first. btw, were you able to create a boot disk whene you first installed rc3? Shame on me?? I need the 5-1/4 drive because I program some older types of gearcutting machines that use old computers and 5-1/4 360k floppy disks. (yea, I'm old. But not too old to learn something new.) I have installed Elx Linux, Lycoris Desktop LX, and Mandrake 8.2 all in the last few days and I was using brand new disks. I was able to write a disk when I installed rc3 and in a terminal window I can see that it has these files on it. boot.msg initrd.img syslinux.cfg and vmlinuz and it tells me that it is not bootable? I am able to format disks inside of linux, write text files and read them on other machines in both drives. And I had just installed mandrake 8.2 last night and all was well. I'm going out to buy a floppy drive later on today, buy I have a hard time believing that the drive is bad given all of the conditions that I see here. Thanks for replying so fast. before buying a new drive, as a test, i'd fill the drive w/ one large text file and then verify that the contents of the drive. i'f the drive was failing, then the file inards would be screwed. if the text was fine then no need to replace the drive and the problems are elsewhere... i'll help by checking the mail list archives for similar problems (if any) at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 and mandrake forum at http://www.mandrakeforum.org/. i'm new to linux but (relatively) old to hardware (10+ years). -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble making a boot floppy
On Thursday 19 September 2002 9:21 am, mudder wrote: snip Shame on me?? I need the 5-1/4 drive because I program some older types of gearcutting machines that use old computers and 5-1/4 360k floppy disks. (yea, I'm old. But not too old to learn something new.) I have installed Elx Linux, Lycoris Desktop LX, and Mandrake 8.2 all in the last few days and I was using brand new disks. I was able to write a disk when I installed rc3 and in a terminal window I can see that it has these files on it. boot.msg initrd.img syslinux.cfg and vmlinuz You're missing ldlinux.sys for one thing. and it tells me that it is not bootable? I am able to format disks inside of linux, write text files and read them on other machines in both drives. And I had just installed mandrake 8.2 last night and all was well. I'm going out to buy a floppy drive later on today, buy I have a hard time believing that the drive is bad given all of the conditions that I see here. Thanks for replying so fast. Great resource these lists, aren't they? There have been a LOT of cooker updates lately. Last week there was an update to mkbootdisk to version 1.4.5-4mdk to fix problems people were having with making a boot disk. In a terminal as super user check the version installed with: rpm -qa mkbootdisk If it's older than the version number I reported above you'll likely have to update it and syslinux too I believe. There was a post on the cooker mailing list about this. More than one in fact. That's a great place to read about all this fun stuff. :-) With the fun and games in drakconf over the past two weeks the GUI boot configuration utility from the control center may not work either. I had to build my boot disk using mkbootdisk kernel version from a terminal. If none of that helps and the drive checks out OK then I don't know. Sorry. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Theorem: a cat has nine tails. Proof: No cat has eight tails. A cat has one tail more than no cat. Therefore, a cat has nine tails. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble making a boot floppy
On Thursday 19 September 2002 12:15 pm, Charlie M. wrote: On Thursday 19 September 2002 9:21 am, mudder wrote: snip Shame on me?? I need the 5-1/4 drive because I program some older types of gearcutting machines that use old computers and 5-1/4 360k floppy disks. (yea, I'm old. But not too old to learn something new.) I have installed Elx Linux, Lycoris Desktop LX, and Mandrake 8.2 all in the last few days and I was using brand new disks. I was able to write a disk when I installed rc3 and in a terminal window I can see that it has these files on it. boot.msg initrd.img syslinux.cfg and vmlinuz You're missing ldlinux.sys for one thing. and it tells me that it is not bootable? I am able to format disks inside of linux, write text files and read them on other machines in both drives. And I had just installed mandrake 8.2 last night and all was well. I'm going out to buy a floppy drive later on today, buy I have a hard time believing that the drive is bad given all of the conditions that I see here. Thanks for replying so fast. Great resource these lists, aren't they? There have been a LOT of cooker updates lately. Last week there was an update to mkbootdisk to version 1.4.5-4mdk to fix problems people were having with making a boot disk. In a terminal as super user check the version installed with: rpm -qa mkbootdisk If it's older than the version number I reported above you'll likely have to update it and syslinux too I believe. There was a post on the cooker mailing list about this. More than one in fact. That's a great place to read about all this fun stuff. :-) With the fun and games in drakconf over the past two weeks the GUI boot configuration utility from the control center may not work either. I had to build my boot disk using mkbootdisk kernel version from a terminal. If none of that helps and the drive checks out OK then I don't know. Sorry. found help from civileme (spelling?)... seems he ran into another person with a similar problem, diskette was corrupt. try different disk. iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble making a boot floppy
On Thursday September 19 2002 09:10 am, mudder wrote: Has anyone had trouble creating a boot disk? I've been playing around with this since the first beta, and have had problems with the boot floppy.From the first beta through RC2 I would get something like the following Boot: loading vmlinuz.(17 periods) boot failed: Please change disks and press a key to continue I just loaded RC3 this morning and it is telling me that the boot floppy is not a bootable disk. Anyone have any advice? I have installed Elx Linux, Lycoris Desktop LX, and Mandrake 8.2 and have not had this problem. The floppy drive is a Epson SD-800 3-1/2 5-1/4 combination drive. Any help would be appreciated Make sure you have a good floppy. EG, Try a full format on it. If that's ok, then su to root in a terminal and type, mkbootdisk $(uname -r) Put a floppy in and hit Enter. It should complete without error and return you to a prompt when done. Then try again to see if that floppy will boot. There's been some complaints on the cooker list of bootdisk problems with the betas/RCs (I haven't had any), you might wanna search the ML archive http://www.mandrake.com/en/archives/cooker/ Other than what you might find there, the only problem I'm aware of is making a boot disk when you use XFS as your file system. The image can be too big for a 1.44 floppy. Then you'll havt'a use your CD1 as there is no fix. Also, if you compiled your own kernel and let it get too big, it might not fit on a floppy either. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble making a boot floppy
On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:36 am, iggy wrote: SNIP I don't know about anyone else but as long as you have it figured out/fixed I don't care where the help came from. :-) Have fun! -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble making a boot floppy(Solved)
On Thursday 19 September 2002 12:45 pm, Charlie M. wrote: On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:36 am, iggy wrote: SNIP I don't know about anyone else but as long as you have it figured out/fixed I don't care where the help came from. :-) Have fun! Many thanks to everyone who gave me input. mkbootdisk was 1.4.5-4mdk syslinux was 1.76-2mdk It turns out that I did have to build a boot floppy from a terminal window. This was my first post to a linux mailing list and I must say that I am impressed. You guys were fast to reply and accurate with your answers. Thanks again. Mudder Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
