Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-16 Thread ed tharp
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote:
 The VGA option was set to 786.
 
 On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to
 start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as
 root and startxing, it says
 
 Fatal server error:
 No valid modes found.
 
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 From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
 
 
Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file.


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-16 Thread Cody Harris
I have sent you my lilo.conf off list.
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Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote:
  The VGA option was set to 786.
 
  On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired
to
  start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in
as
  root and startxing, it says
 
  Fatal server error:
  No valid modes found.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
 
 
 Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file.









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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-16 Thread ed tharp
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 09:52, Cody Harris wrote:
 I have sent you my lilo.conf off list.
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 From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
 
 
  On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote:
   The VGA option was set to 786.
  
   On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired
 to
   start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in
 as
   root and startxing, it says
  
   Fatal server error:
   No valid modes found.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM
   Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
  
  
  Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file.
 
Got it, and replied with changes to lilo.conf, and a short explanation
of passing the mem=xxxM to the kernel in the append statement in lilo
that I hope will help and make sense.


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-15 Thread Cody Harris
You say my problem is to do with a frame buffer? Yes i have a color lilo
boot menu. How do i fix this?


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-15 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:42:37 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You say my problem is to do with a frame buffer? Yes i have a color
 lilo boot menu. How do i fix this?

You can pass the parameter vga=normal, either at boot or by adding it to
your lilo.conf
This will ensure that your system boots without framebuffer.

Unfortunately this is not the root cause of the difficulties which you
are having.
As XFree evolves and new cards and chipsets are become supported a
consequence is that some older chipsets/cards are no longer
supported.
In the case of the s3 Trio64, when using XFree-4.3, Only those
cards which have IBM RGB 524, Texas Instruments 3025, or an internal
TrioDAC RAMDAC chip have 3d support.

AFAIR the latest version of XFree in which your card would be fully
supported was 3.3.6 

Using XFdrake you can switch to XFree-3.3.6 from whatever 4.x.x version
you are now currently running.

Though their recent offerings are becoming better I, personally, view
with disdain the s3 tag since, as at inception they were a 'base'
'windblows' offering which allowed 'cost-cutting' by computer butchers.

In the case of vid cards, though they can at time be a hassle, I will
stick with either ATI or NVIDIA, with my preference being ATI.

If you have an avaiable AGP slot I would consider a change.
If this is a viable option if you contact me off-list I may be able, for
a song, to offer you an alternative.
If this is not an alternative you may need to consider dropping 3d and
using the svga server/driver.


Charles

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-15 Thread ed tharp
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:42, Cody Harris wrote:
 You say my problem is to do with a frame buffer? Yes i have a color lilo
 boot menu. How do i fix this?
 
 
see Charles's reply, he is absolutely correct. but also check your lilo
for the mem statement, since this is an on-board shared video memory
video chipset.


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-15 Thread Cody Harris
I'm a little confused here. Should i or shouldn't i use Xfree 4.3? I don't
care about 3d support because i'm not playing any games. I'll try the lilo
and stuff in a minute.
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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-15 Thread Cody Harris
The VGA option was set to 786.

On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to
start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as
root and startxing, it says

Fatal server error:
No valid modes found.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?



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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

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From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
  I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars
  and the colour gets messed up

 ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI

It seems to work OK if i use 640*480*8, which is not using the card accell
right? Anyways, i was messing around and kinda fudged things up, and now
it doesn't work at all (not even term). I'll take a look into the Beta,
where can i get it?

 card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot
 easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list
 that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or*
 you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more
 recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but
 check it out on the MDK site.

Is beta under download?


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris
OH! I forgot to mention, i had an instal;l of 8.1 and it worked fine. Must
have changed some stuff that would cause this.
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


  On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300
  Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
   Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did
   Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start
   gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to
   rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem
   to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it.
 
  exec gnome-session
 Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in.
 
  like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not
  support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info.
 
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  robbers there will be.
  -- Lao Tsu
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

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From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:19:29 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
  I attached the file

 Here's your prob right here:

 Section Device
 Identifier  S3 Trio64V2 (generic)
 VendorName  Unknown
 BoardName   Unknown
 Driver  vga
 #VideoRam1024
 # Clock lines

 whereas your card is obviously a much more recent mfgr:

 S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR

 I would go into MCC and try to see if it will recognize that card or if
 it is even listed. S3 is a very problematic card, from personal exp.

 In MCC, go hardware-XFDrake.

 oh wait, you can't get into X, stupido meo, okay, you should be able to
 run XFDrake from the command line, IIRC.

bash: XFFrake: command not found


 give that a shot and report back!


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:29:42 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Oops, disregard that. THIS is the correct file:

same prob, same steps.

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:08:42 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Video driver:
 DESCRIPTION:
 S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR
 MANUFACTURER:
 S3 Compatible Display Adapter
 BIOS:
 60.00.06
 DATE:
 09/20/02
 
 I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any
 idea's suggestions?

How is it shown in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

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From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

  Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did
  Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start
  gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to
  rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem
  to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it.

 exec gnome-session

 like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not
 support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info.

At least it works if i stay out of anything higher then 8 bit (800x600
works). KDE just doesn't work at all. Gnome works. IceWM or whatever works,
just KDE doesn't. Weird eh?


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

- Original Message - 
From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote:
   - Original Message - 
   From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM
   Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
  
  
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
  I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my
card
  isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that
  doesn't work.

 your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've
never been
 through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if
they
 may now support your card.
   
   
Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running
  
   X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang?
  you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8
  bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame
  buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this
  shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available
  system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM
  where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of
  shared video mem?)
 
 
  and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider (AGP
disabled) (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI
00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+]
00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip 21140
[FasterNet] (rev 20)

Coppied that by hand...




  and cat /proc/pci say?

PCI devices found:
 Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
   Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP
disabled) (rev 3).
 Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
   ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1).
 Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
   IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1).
 I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf].
 Bus  0, device   7, function  3:
   Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0).
 IRQ 9.
 Bus  0, device   8, function  0:
   VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 0).
 Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff].
 Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
   Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140
[FasterNet] (rev 32).
 IRQ 11.
 Master Capable.  Latency=64.
 I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f].
 Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf].

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars
 and the colour gets messed up

ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI
card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot
easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list
that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or*
you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more
recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but
check it out on the MDK site.

-- 
HaywireMac

The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
robbers there will be.
-- Lao Tsu

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[newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris
I recently downloaded Mandrake 9.1 and was testing it. In installed it and
everything worked fine from the install, SVGA, the whole bit. I restarted
the computer, and when it got to starting x, that's where it had problems.
The normal grey texture came up, ok, and that funny blue background ok, but
as soon as it started to display the login box it just appears and before i
can really even see it, it goes away and the screen flickers and goes black,
and tried to load it again. It does that a few times then goes to console,
not giving any errors. I log in and type startx. It loads, and the screen
starts with a red baclground, and the KDE taskbar comes up for a couple
seconds, then goes away. The scrren at that point stays red. I ran some
tests on my video card when i was using windows and it told me:

Video driver:
DESCRIPTION:
S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR
MANUFACTURER:
S3 Compatible Display Adapter
BIOS:
60.00.06
DATE:
09/20/02

I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any
idea's suggestions?

-Cody Harris

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
 
 
  On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote:
   On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300
   Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  
   
I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card
isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that
doesn't work.
  
   your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been
   through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they
   may now support your card.
 
 
  Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running
 
 X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang?
you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8
bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame
buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this
shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available
system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM
where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of
shared video mem?) 


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 16:29, Haywiremac wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:04:52 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in.
 
then login first?


 Ok, try this, create a file in your home dir called .xinitrc, then edit
 that file so it has that line, ie. exec gnome-session. Then startx.
 
 Sorry, not a big Gnome user :P


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris
I attached the file
- Original Message - 
From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:08:42 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

  Video driver:
  DESCRIPTION:
  S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR
  MANUFACTURER:
  S3 Compatible Display Adapter
  BIOS:
  60.00.06
  DATE:
  09/20/02
 
  I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any
  idea's suggestions?

 How is it shown in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris
I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars and the
colour gets messed up
- Original Message - 
From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
  I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card
  isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that
  doesn't work.

 your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been
 through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they
 may now support your card.

 -- 
 HaywireMac

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 robbers there will be.
 -- Lao Tsu








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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
  I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card
  isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that
  doesn't work.
 
 your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been
 through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they
 may now support your card.


Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

- Original Message - 
From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 15:12, Cody Harris wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
 
 
   On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


  On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote:
   On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300
   Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  
   
I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration,
but my
  card
isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but
that
doesn't work.
  
   your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've
  never been
   through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see
if
  they
   may now support your card.
 
 
  Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running

 X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang?
you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets
you 8
bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using
frame
buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is
this
shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available
system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a
mem=xxxM
where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of
shared video mem?)
   
   
and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes
lspci
 
  00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider
(AGP
  disabled) (rev 03)
  00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
  0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
  00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI
  00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+]
  00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip
21140
  [FasterNet] (rev 20)
 
  Coppied that by hand...
 
 
 
 
and cat /proc/pci say?
 
  PCI devices found:
   Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP
  disabled) (rev 3).
   Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1).
   Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1).
   I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf].
   Bus  0, device   7, function  3:
 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0).
   IRQ 9.
   Bus  0, device   8, function  0:
 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev
0).
   Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff].
   Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140
  [FasterNet] (rev 32).
   IRQ 11.
   Master Capable.  Latency=64.
   I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f].
   Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf].
 
   
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 Ok now we know you have an S3 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+
 And that is a chipset I see in XFdrake under S3. try that one yet?

I'm currently using Trio 64, but i can't get higher then 8 bit.









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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 15:12, Cody Harris wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
 
 
  On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote:
   On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
   
   
 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote:
  On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300
  Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
   I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my
 card
   isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that
   doesn't work.
 
  your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've
 never been
  through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if
 they
  may now support your card.


 Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running
   
X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang?
   you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8
   bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame
   buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this
   shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available
   system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM
   where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of
   shared video mem?)
  
  
   and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes lspci
 
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider (AGP
 disabled) (rev 03)
 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
 0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
 00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI
 00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+]
 00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip 21140
 [FasterNet] (rev 20)
 
 Coppied that by hand...
 
 
 
 
   and cat /proc/pci say?
 
 PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP
 disabled) (rev 3).
  Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1).
  Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1).
  I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf].
  Bus  0, device   7, function  3:
Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0).
  IRQ 9.
  Bus  0, device   8, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 0).
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff].
  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140
 [FasterNet] (rev 32).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=64.
  I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf].
 
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Ok now we know you have an S3 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+
And that is a chipset I see in XFdrake under S3. try that one yet?


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread bob parker
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:48, Cody Harris wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

  On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300
 
  Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars
   and the colour gets messed up
 
  ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI

 It seems to work OK if i use 640*480*8, which is not using the card accell
 right? Anyways, i was messing around and kinda fudged things up, and now
 it doesn't work at all (not even term). I'll take a look into the Beta,
 where can i get it?

  card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot
  easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list
  that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or*
  you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more
  recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but
  check it out on the MDK site.

I just joined the list am late in this thread so I may be off beam but I 
think there is a problem for S3 Trio with some of the XFree versions.
I believe v4.0 and 4.2 are ok, but 4.1 and 4.3 are broken.

There are binary drivers available on the S3 site - google get it.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did
 Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start
 gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to
 rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem
 to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it.

exec gnome-session

like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not
support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info.

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Haywiremac
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:04:52 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in.

Ok, try this, create a file in your home dir called .xinitrc, then edit
that file so it has that line, ie. exec gnome-session. Then startx.

Sorry, not a big Gnome user :P

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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
  
  
   On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   

 I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card
 isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that
 doesn't work.
   
your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been
through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they
may now support your card.
  
  
   Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running
  
  X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang?
 you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8
 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame
 buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this
 shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available
 system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM
 where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of
 shared video mem?) 
 
and have you been to http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html?


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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

- Original Message - 
From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 16:29, Haywiremac wrote:
  On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:04:52 -0300
  Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
   Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in.
 
 then login first?

I was logged in. But i changed display managers from the mandrake one to
Gnome, and that works and i can choose KDE from there.



  Ok, try this, create a file in your home dir called .xinitrc, then edit
  that file so it has that line, ie. exec gnome-session. Then startx.
 
  Sorry, not a big Gnome user :P









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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-14 Thread Cody Harris

- Original Message - 
From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


 On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

  Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did
  Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start
  gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to
  rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem
  to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it.

 exec gnome-session
Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in.

 like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not
 support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info.

 -- 
 HaywireMac

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 robbers there will be.
 -- Lao Tsu








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Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?

2003-08-12 Thread Cody Harris
I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't
listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work.
- Original Message - 
From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?



 - Original Message - 
 From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?


  On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:19:29 -0300
  Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
   I attached the file
 
  Here's your prob right here:
 
  Section Device
  Identifier  S3 Trio64V2 (generic)
  VendorName  Unknown
  BoardName   Unknown
  Driver  vga
  #VideoRam1024
  # Clock lines
 
  whereas your card is obviously a much more recent mfgr:
 
  S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR
 
  I would go into MCC and try to see if it will recognize that card or if
  it is even listed. S3 is a very problematic card, from personal exp.
 
  In MCC, go hardware-XFDrake.
 
  oh wait, you can't get into X, stupido meo, okay, you should be able to
  run XFDrake from the command line, IIRC.

 bash: XFFrake: command not found

 
  give that a shot and report back!
 
 
  -- 
  HaywireMac
 
  The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and
  robbers there will be.
  -- Lao Tsu
 
 


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