[newbie] What can I save from 8.2?
I have a fairly new install of Mandrake 8.2. If (when) I decide to upgrade to 9.0 what should I or can I save? Is it easier to start from scratch or can I save what is in my /home directory? I'm just not sure if eveything in /home would be compatible with whatever would be installed during an upgrade to 9.0? I have seperate partitions for: / /home /usr /usr/local and a 300m swap partition. Starting from scratch is not a big issue but I thought I'd get some opinions and advice. My machine is a just for fun workstation. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] What can I save from 8.2?
I prefer to find everything on the entire install that I want to keep, including home, any config stuff and whatever else.. and put the lot in its own directory... (say /backup) Then tar that directory up...: tar -zcvvf backup.tar.gz /backup and make yourself a nice compressed tar of everything you need... then copy that somewhere else.. (off that system or a protected partition) and reinstall, then uncompress the tar after you have your old user accounts setup again.. that why file ownership doesn't become an issue.. (since tar files preserve file permissions.) Its also a small need way of keeping backup copy of that stuff without wasting space. just my theory rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Grigsby Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2002 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] What can I save from 8.2? On Tuesday 24 September 2002 08:04 pm, Scott Felton wrote: I have a fairly new install of Mandrake 8.2. If (when) I decide to upgrade to 9.0 what should I or can I save? Is it easier to start from scratch or can I save what is in my /home directory? I'm just not sure if eveything in /home would be compatible with whatever would be installed during an upgrade to 9.0? I have seperate partitions for: / /home /usr /usr/local and a 300m swap partition. Starting from scratch is not a big issue but I thought I'd get some opinions and advice. My machine is a just for fun workstation. Scott: The conventional advice is to keep /home, and reformat/rewrite the others. You may end up with some extraneous stuff (but then you're the guy with two 40 gb drives, too), and some settings might need tweaking, but nothing horrendous should occur. You will lose any apps that you've added since the 8.2 install, but that may not be a bad thing, since dependencies and file locations have been known to change from version to version. The Mandrake install does provide an option to upgrade your current installation rather than do a fresh install. Unless this has been greatly improved since I last tried it, don't do it. It takes much, much longer to complete, and you'll probably end up with a lot of stuff that is just taking up space. While I'm sure that upgrading has its advantages in certain situations, for a simple single-user system, a fresh install is usually the best way to proceed. Quicker, too. While you're at it, consider adding a partition that can be used as a storage space (mine's called /archives). You can copy your old /home there, do a completely fresh install, and then just bring back the stuff that's worth saving. Works for me. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What can I save from 8.2?
On Tuesday 24 September 2002 08:04 pm, Scott Felton wrote: I have a fairly new install of Mandrake 8.2. If (when) I decide to upgrade to 9.0 what should I or can I save? Is it easier to start from scratch or can I save what is in my /home directory? I'm just not sure if eveything in /home would be compatible with whatever would be installed during an upgrade to 9.0? I have seperate partitions for: / /home /usr /usr/local and a 300m swap partition. Starting from scratch is not a big issue but I thought I'd get some opinions and advice. My machine is a just for fun workstation. Scott: The conventional advice is to keep /home, and reformat/rewrite the others. You may end up with some extraneous stuff (but then you're the guy with two 40 gb drives, too), and some settings might need tweaking, but nothing horrendous should occur. You will lose any apps that you've added since the 8.2 install, but that may not be a bad thing, since dependencies and file locations have been known to change from version to version. The Mandrake install does provide an option to upgrade your current installation rather than do a fresh install. Unless this has been greatly improved since I last tried it, don't do it. It takes much, much longer to complete, and you'll probably end up with a lot of stuff that is just taking up space. While I'm sure that upgrading has its advantages in certain situations, for a simple single-user system, a fresh install is usually the best way to proceed. Quicker, too. While you're at it, consider adding a partition that can be used as a storage space (mine's called /archives). You can copy your old /home there, do a completely fresh install, and then just bring back the stuff that's worth saving. Works for me. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What can I save from 8.2?
On Tuesday 24 September 2002 09:37 pm, you wrote: I prefer to find everything on the entire install that I want to keep, including home, any config stuff and whatever else.. and put the lot in its own directory... (say /backup) Then tar that directory up...: tar -zcvvf backup.tar.gz /backup and make yourself a nice compressed tar of everything you need... then copy that somewhere else.. (off that system or a protected partition) and reinstall, then uncompress the tar after you have your old user accounts setup again.. that why file ownership doesn't become an issue.. (since tar files preserve file permissions.) Frank Thanks Frank. I've actually installed 8.2 twice now. The second install was after I figured out how to resize my WinXP partiton. I took everything in /home and burned it on a CD, did a fresh install, then replaced eveything in /home with the files on the CD. I can't remember if I did this as root or maybe it was the CD files became read only but it was a heck of a mess. I couldn't delete mail in Kmail, configure any settings (the old ones just returned I guess because the files were read only). Half were owned by me and half were owned by root. I did a lot of reading up on chown and chmod before I got it fixed! I'll take your tarball method as a better option. The conventional advice is to keep /home, and reformat/rewrite the others. You may end up with some extraneous stuff (but then you're the guy with two 40 gb drives, too), and some settings might need tweaking, but nothing horrendous should occur. You will lose any apps that you've added since the 8.2 install, but that may not be a bad thing, since dependencies and file locations have been known to change from version to version. Yes Carroll, this is what I'm afraid of. With so little time invested I have very little to loose. I want to avoid having bits and pieces of two versions of Mdk on here. I think the only file I installed that wasn't part of 8.2 to begin with was Everybuddy (the one with Mdk8.2 wouldn't log on to Yahoo chat for me). I may just save some stuff from my /home directory and start with all new. While you're at it, consider adding a partition that can be used as a storage space (mine's called /archives). You can copy your old /home there, do a completely fresh install, and then just bring back the stuff that's worth This is a good idea if I understand you. If I create an /archive partition, copy anything worth saving there, then during a fresh install /archive is left untouched when I define my usual partitions/mount points during a new install? I guess I would have to mount that partition from a terminal window to copy from it after the install? Thanks all Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
