[newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread Aryan Ameri



Hi there:
Thanks for the answers on File system. Now as a 
Linux newbie, I have another basic question
I really want to know what is WINE? I know that it 
is a technology that run Windows apps under Linux. But I really don't know how 
to do so. I mean can I just insert my Office XP CD Rom and install it the way I 
do with windows?Or do I need to somehow tweak it? And what programs can I 
use under WINE? Andby the way how can I get it? how can I run it? ( Shall 
I run it? I mean is it an app? )
Well I appreciate any information that you can give 
me about WINE. Maybe a URL will help. 
Linux Registered user # 266090
Aryan


Re: [newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread FemmeFatale

Try www.codeweavers.com  use their WINE.  If you must, at least read
about it there.

HTH

Femme

 Aryan Ameri wrote:
 
 Hi there:
 Thanks for the answers on File system. Now as a Linux newbie, I have
 another basic question
 I really want to know what is WINE? I know that it is a technology
 that run Windows apps under Linux. But I really don't know how to do
 so. I mean can I just insert my Office XP CD Rom and install it the
 way I do with windows? Or do I need to somehow tweak it? And what
 programs can I use under WINE? And by the way how can I get it? how
 can I run it? ( Shall I run it? I mean is it an app? )
 Well I appreciate any information that you can give me about WINE.
 Maybe a URL will help.
  Linux Registered user # 266090
 Aryan



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Re: [newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread Robin Turner

On Sunday 17 March 2002 22:49, FemmeFatale wrote:
 Try www.codeweavers.com  use their WINE.  If you must, at least read
 about it there.

Femme Fatale is probably right.  Codeweavers is certainly the most 
user-friendly Wine, as they have a GUI configuration tool, and it's also more 
stable than hot-off-the-CVS-tree versions.  If it doesn't run the things you 
want, try downloading the latest version of wine from winehq (actually from 
dataparty, but the link is there).  Keep your old wine.conf somewhere safe!  
I'm in the middle of downloading the latest version - I can let you know 
results if you want.

I also compiled Transgaming Wine from source, but didn't have good results.  
Maybe I configured it wrong, but it wouldn't run Max Payne as advertised 
(there again, neither does Windows really, heh heh) and did really weird 
things with very simple Win applications like Wordpad.

Robin



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Re: [newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread Damian

El dom, 17-03-2002 a las 14:19, Aryan Ameri escribió:
 Hi there:
 Thanks for the answers on File system. Now as a Linux newbie, I have another basic 
question
 I really want to know what is WINE? I know that it is a technology that run Windows 
apps under Linux. But I really don't know how to do so. I mean can I just insert my 
Office XP CD Rom and install it the way I do with windows? Or do I need to somehow 
tweak it? And what programs can I use under WINE? And by the way how can I get it? 
how can I run it? ( Shall I run it? I mean is it an app? )
 Well I appreciate any information that you can give me about WINE. Maybe a URL will 
help. 
  Linux Registered user # 266090
 Aryan


well.. no, wine doesn't require you to have any windows CD's.

actually, i think the wine development team's idea is to be able to
get rid of any windows installation, but to keep the programs.

i have codeweaver's wine installed and all files with .exe extension
are assigned to it, so i just click them and they start ( if they can )
or i can run them by commandline like wine --winver win98 calc.exe

the wine installation contains enough files and built-in dll's to make
the executable think it's running under win98, win2k, win31, etc. 
however, there's also the option to make wine use dlls from an existing
installation of windows. in this case, configuring it is harder, but if 
you manage to do it, it's more likely that your programs will run
properly.

as for the kinds  of program you can run, it's usually the small ones,
for example, i can use wine from time to time to run getright, winzip,
shockwave flash projectors, etc. ( they say you can get it to run the 
big programs as well, but i never acomplished that much. )


codeweavers's wine has got a configuration wizard that makes stuff a
little easier. you could give it a try. www.codeweavers.com


if the kind of program you are looking for is one that would let you
make a windows installation to run programs inside it, i've also tried
one called VMware. it's a virtual machine, that means when you start the
program up, you get a window that displays something that appears to be
a boot process. you can install windows on that virtual machine from
your
windows cd, and inside that window, you get the full M$'s OS and, of
course you are able to run every program you have on it. 
i've tried as much as 3DS max 4.2, office xp apps, you get the idea...
the only disadvantage to this is the great amount of resources you need
to do this, and that it's not free software, you have to buy it. it's on
www.vmware.com you can download a 30 day trial anyway, so you 
can take a look at it and see if it fits your needs.


... try them and feel free to post back with new questions as needed ;o)


Damian









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Re: [newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread shane

On Sunday 17 March 2002 14:37, Robin Turner opened a hailing frequency and 
transmitted:

 Femme Fatale is probably right.  Codeweavers is certainly the most
 user-friendly Wine, as they have a GUI configuration tool, and it's also
 more stable than hot-off-the-CVS-tree versions.  If it doesn't run the

it appears that the codeweavers version is on the mandrake users club site, 
just one more reason to join if you are waffling.  ;-)

***from mandrakeclub.com***
  Codeweavers Wine 
Description: Wine is a program which allows running Microsoft Windows 
programs (including DOS, Windows 3.x and Win32 executables) on Unix
 Licence: X11
Version: 20011108 Filesize: 5.11 MB
Added on: 08-Mar-2002 Downloads: 247 Rating: 4.5

 I also compiled Transgaming Wine from source, but didn't have good
 results.

i have had good results with it, but only ever use it for starcraft and 
TFC, so what do i know about the newer games?  nothing actually. 

-- 
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tell you they possess the *only* truth, run for your life.

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Re: [newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread Robin Turner

On Monday 18 March 2002 00:52, shane wrote:

 it appears that the codeweavers version is on the mandrake users club site,
 just one more reason to join if you are waffling.  ;-)

Yes, but it's also on the codeweavers site, unsurprisingly.

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Re: [newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread shane

code weavers has an RPM for mandrake 8.2 on their site?  they are _fast_!

ok, so i forgot to point that out, shot me.. but join first.  ;-)

On Sunday 17 March 2002 15:14, Robin Turner opened a hailing frequency and 
transmitted:

 On Monday 18 March 2002 00:52, shane wrote:
  it appears that the codeweavers version is on the mandrake users club
  site, just one more reason to join if you are waffling.  ;-)

 Yes, but it's also on the codeweavers site, unsurprisingly.

 Robin

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Re: [newbie] What is WINE?

2002-03-17 Thread Derek Jennings

SNIP
 I also compiled Transgaming Wine from source, but didn't have good results.
 Maybe I configured it wrong, but it wouldn't run Max Payne as advertised
 (there again, neither does Windows really, heh heh) and did really weird
 things with very simple Win applications like Wordpad.


Not surprising. Transgaming have only managed to get MaxPayne working in 
tutorial mode as yet, and have not yet released the version that can do even 
that much. Their announcement was simply to highlight that Winex is 'almost' 
capable of running DirectX8 games. Personally I find the Transgaming Winex 
good for Counterstrike/Day of Defeat and not much else as yet.

You will find for some Windows applications Codeweavers wine works better 
while for others Transgaming is best. You can  have them both installed at 
the same time if you wish.

derek



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