[newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
Hi all,

Can someone please suggest which version of Mandrake should give me the best 
performance running the following hardware where the machine WILL have a GUI 
(I like them :) but for the most part will then mostly be running an ssh 
server sans GUI, through my router?

Intel P200 on an ASUS mobo, 64 Mb RAM, 2gb HDD, 2mb ATI graphics, some 10/100 
ethernet card.

All the hardware seems to be standard enough to work with all versions that I 
have when used in other combinations.  I can pick between Mandrake 8, 8.1 
(download versions) and a purchased 8.2 (7 disk version).

I have to mention I have a soft spot for Version 8 as it was the first of any 
Linux distro that worked out of the box for me, (sound and internet) and has 
produced the best results on another machine (450 AMD 256 RAM), appearing to 
be more stable than the others but I value the opinions expressed here.

I anticipate it will involve something to do with which version of the kernel 
they are blessed with but other factors will be pointed out to me in the 
nicest way. 

Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance. 

-- 
Derek Byram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user 264346



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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Robin Turner
Derek Byram wrote:

Hi all,

Can someone please suggest which version of Mandrake should give me the best 
performance running the following hardware where the machine WILL have a GUI 
(I like them :) but for the most part will then mostly be running an ssh 
server sans GUI, through my router?

Intel P200 on an ASUS mobo, 64 Mb RAM, 2gb HDD, 2mb ATI graphics, some 10/100 
ethernet card.

All the hardware seems to be standard enough to work with all versions that I 
have when used in other combinations.  I can pick between Mandrake 8, 8.1 
(download versions) and a purchased 8.2 (7 disk version).

I have to mention I have a soft spot for Version 8 as it was the first of any 
Linux distro that worked out of the box for me, (sound and internet) and has 
produced the best results on another machine (450 AMD 256 RAM), appearing to 
be more stable than the others but I value the opinions expressed here.

I anticipate it will involve something to do with which version of the kernel 
they are blessed with but other factors will be pointed out to me in the 
nicest way. 

Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance. 

If you like 8.0, then why not stick with it?  It was a fine distro (as 
was 7.2, a definite high point in Mandrake's career).  Do NOT install 
8.1 - it was the distro from Hell (to be fair, this was not entirely 
Mandrake's fault - a number of key programs, such as supermount, were 
going through a bad period at that time).  8.2 is generally a good 
distro, though I had to downgrade the kernel to get the Internet to work.

However, if you're worried about your low hardware spec, the main thing 
is not which distro you install, but what you choose to run.  Don't use 
KDE - it's a great desktop environment, but it eats RAM and CPU cycles 
(as Oppenheimer might have said I have become KDE, devourer of RAM). 
Try something really light, like IceWM.  Forget OpenOffice, unless you 
feel like making dinner while it loads - use LyX for writing and 
Gnumeric for spreadsheets.

Sir Robin

--
Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun 
doing it.
- Linus Torvalds

Robin Turner
IDMYO,
Bilkent University
Ankara 06533
Turkey

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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
On Sunday 29 December 2002 01:06, Robin Turner wrote:
 Derek Byram wrote:
  Hi all,

SNIP

  Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance.

 If you like 8.0, then why not stick with it?  It was a fine distro (as
 was 7.2, a definite high point in Mandrake's career).  Do NOT install
 8.1 - it was the distro from Hell (to be fair, this was not entirely
 Mandrake's fault - a number of key programs, such as supermount, were
 going through a bad period at that time).  8.2 is generally a good
 distro, though I had to downgrade the kernel to get the Internet to work.

 However, if you're worried about your low hardware spec, the main thing
 is not which distro you install, but what you choose to run.  Don't use
 KDE - it's a great desktop environment, but it eats RAM and CPU cycles
 (as Oppenheimer might have said I have become KDE, devourer of RAM).
 Try something really light, like IceWM.  Forget OpenOffice, unless you
 feel like making dinner while it loads - use LyX for writing and
 Gnumeric for spreadsheets.

 Sir Robin

Thank you kindly brave knight.

Great start, you have confirmed my suspicions about 8.1.  

8 seemed real complete.

I am only asking because I currently run the ssh server on my main machine, an 
Athlon XP1800 on SuSE 8.

A bit of overkill you might think and I agree.

-- 
Derek Byram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user 264346



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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread mycal62
I IMHO would recommend you use 8.0 if you can get it to work.

I too think it is a great version, an until just today I have stuck with 
it because I could not get everything
working in 8.2 or 9.0 so I would have to go back to 8.0. I finally got 
my printer ( hp 820cse ) working in 9.0
so now I'll stick with it for now.

But with that amount of Memory I'd try 8.0 first.  I have run it on a 
486 with 48 mg or ram.

My 2 cents


Mike McNeese 
Springdale, 
Arkansas USA

° 
Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; 
MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Registered Linux User #248955

° 

If obstacles are what you see in your path...
Then you have lost sight of your goal!  



Derek Byram wrote:

Hi all,

Can someone please suggest which version of Mandrake should give me the best 
performance running the following hardware where the machine WILL have a GUI 
(I like them :) but for the most part will then mostly be running an ssh 
server sans GUI, through my router?

Intel P200 on an ASUS mobo, 64 Mb RAM, 2gb HDD, 2mb ATI graphics, some 10/100 
ethernet card.

All the hardware seems to be standard enough to work with all versions that I 
have when used in other combinations.  I can pick between Mandrake 8, 8.1 
(download versions) and a purchased 8.2 (7 disk version).

I have to mention I have a soft spot for Version 8 as it was the first of any 
Linux distro that worked out of the box for me, (sound and internet) and has 
produced the best results on another machine (450 AMD 256 RAM), appearing to 
be more stable than the others but I value the opinions expressed here.

I anticipate it will involve something to do with which version of the kernel 
they are blessed with but other factors will be pointed out to me in the 
nicest way. 

Any offererings gladly received for which I thank you in advance. 

 



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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Derek Byram
On Saturday 28 December 2002 14:46, mycal62 wrote:
 I IMHO would recommend you use 8.0 if you can get it to work.

 I too think it is a great version, an until just today I have stuck with
 it because I could not get everything
 working in 8.2 or 9.0 so I would have to go back to 8.0. I finally got
 my printer ( hp 820cse ) working in 9.0
 so now I'll stick with it for now.

 But with that amount of Memory I'd try 8.0 first.  I have run it on a
 486 with 48 mg or ram.

 My 2 cents


 Mike McNeese
 Springdale,
 Arkansas USA

SNIP

 
 
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Thanks for that.  I am certain I'll take off the 8.1 I am trying ATM and go 
for 8.

Your USA 2 cents is worth a lot as it was honestly given.

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Derek Byram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [newbie] Which version please

2002-12-28 Thread Michael Viron
Just to clarify -- the last release for the 486 was 7.0, not 8.0 .

If you installed 8.0 and had it working, it was a Pentium class processor.

Michael
At 08:46 AM 12/28/2002 -0600, you wrote:
I IMHO would recommend you use 8.0 if you can get it to work.

I too think it is a great version, an until just today I have stuck with 
it because I could not get everything
working in 8.2 or 9.0 so I would have to go back to 8.0. I finally got 
my printer ( hp 820cse ) working in 9.0
so now I'll stick with it for now.

But with that amount of Memory I'd try 8.0 first.  I have run it on a 
486 with 48 mg or ram.

My 2 cents


Mike McNeese 
Springdale, 
Arkansas USA

° 
Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; 
MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Registered Linux User #248955




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