Re: [newbie] X 4.0.1 S3 Trio3D works!
Now that I've had a decent night's sleep (up at 5am, installed X at 1 am next morning), there are few things that I should have added. 1) Read and answer all the questions yes or no depending if you already have customizations to your X environment (I didn't), it will save so much post install work. 2)An opportuninty to choose the default desktop (KDE, Gnome, TWm, etc)is probably provided during the run of Xinstall.sh. I must have missed it in my fatigue and the XFree86.urg people are way too thorough to miss that. If it is, you can skip the whole second half of my instructions dealing with /xinitrc. 3) A chance to choose resolutions beyond 800x600 may have also been provided during the installer and I missed it. Victor Victor Richardson wrote: I just installed X 4.0.1 on Mandrake 7.1 and had it up and running off the default installation by only moving and renaming one file and editing one other. I highly suggest it to any S3 Trio3D users who are running X in frame buffer mode or haven't gotten it working. I tried for 6 months to 3.3.6 to run and only got it to work in frame buffer 1024x768 once, then could never get it to work again. If anyone is interested, I just followed the simple instructions at www.xfree86.org, and downloaded these files to a temporary directory: Xbin.tgz Xdoc.tgz Xetc.tgz Xfenc.tgz Xfnts.tgz Xfscl.tgz Xfsrv.tgz Xinstall.sh Xlib.tgz Xman.tgz Xmod.tgz Xvar.tgz Xxserv.tgz extract.exe 1) Run 'sh Xinstall.sh' from within it's directory and answer yes to all the questions, #sh Xinstall.sh 2) afterwards run the new 'XFree86 -configure' which automatically sets XF86Config for the S3 Trio3D with the S3Virge driver. #XFree86 -configure 3) Go into directory /etc/X11 and rename any XF86Config and XF86Config-4 to ".old" 4) Copy and rename the new XF86Config to /etc/X11 (4.0.1 reads XF86Config-4 now) with #cp /root/XF86Config.new /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 5) reboot It seems that 4.0.1 launches the TWM desktop by default (at least it did on mine) which looks like crap and will make you think the install didn't work properly (at least I did). On mine it had this light grey background (rough, primitive, detail) with three screens open; login, xterm, and xclock. If you use and already have KDE installed, then you need to drop TWM and tell X to launch KDE by default: 1)Go into the login screen and exit out of X; #exit 2) Edit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc, which is read only so change it to read-write; #cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/ 3) Save xinitrc and change it's name so you can restore if you need to with; #cp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc.sav 3) Check to see if it is read-write, which will tell if it has "-rw-rw-rw-", #ls -la xinitrc 4) If it doesn't, make it read-write with; #chmod 666 xinitrc 5)Then edit xinitrc so that it launches KDE default. At the bottom of the file it will have a section that says something similar to: #start some nice programs twm xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login 6) This tells X that it will launch TWM and have xclock, xterm, and an xterm titled "login" already open. Xterm "login" will be the main screen so closing it will exit X. Change the "twm " line to "kde " . If you don't want xclock automatically opened, then delete the xclock line, but keep the "exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login" line. I deleted it and X wouldn't run. 7)Exit and save the file. ***I suggest changing the /xinintrc file back to read only with the chmod command Unfortunately, it is late and I can't remember which chmod number is for read-only. Can somone please reply with the proper chmod number? Start X and it should work nicley! I know for beginners like myself, this sounds like a lot to do, but it only takes a few minutes to install and configure (10-15 max) and then you'll be running X in all it's glory. I have to admit I needed help from my brother to do all the xinitrc changes, that was out of my league. ps. Mine was running in 800x600 by default, I'm not sure if you can get better resolutions. Victor
[newbie] X and S3 Trio3D
I still am having trouble getting my S3 Trio3D to work. When "startx" runs using the S3Virge driver(as Xf86Free.org suggests) the error message shows that everything goes fine from the keyboard through the FontPath, until; XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings) (**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, buttons: 3 (**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) S3V: Graphics device ID: "My Video Card" (**) S3V: Monitor ID: :My Monitor" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (--) S3V: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8904 rev 1, Linear FB @ 0xf400 (--) S3V: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8904 rev.1 *** None of the configured devices were detected.*** Fatal server error: no screens found When reporting a probem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Any ideas on what's wrong Victor
Re: [newbie] X and S3 Trio3D
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Richardson wrote: I still am having trouble getting my S3 Trio3D to work. When "startx" runs using the S3Virge driver(as Xf86Free.org suggests) the What version of Mandrake are you using? I had an S3 card too, once, and with RH6 (sorry guys) I could not get it to work. The latest S3-servers, 3.3.6 and up, seem to have decent S3 support though. These are included in mdk 7.x, not sure about 6.x. (--) S3V: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8904 rev 1, Linear FB @ 0xf400 PCI unknown? That might be something to look into. Paul -- Rain and tears are the streams that wash away life's dirt... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] X and S3 Trio3D
I'm running Mandrake 7.1 (X ver. 3.3.6). I agree that the PCI: unknown might the root of the problem. I'd guess that the video card is not working or that it is a newer version, but I bought the server new in November from IBM and I'd think that the latest drivers in 3.3.6 would include it. I'm thinking on trying X 4.0 today to see if it will help, but it is probably going to turn out to be a hardware problem. And will probably try to run it in Frame Buffer mode as IBM's site suggest, although I'm not sure how primitive the graphics will be. I've never seen Frame Buffer is it like SVGA? Any ideas on how to test the video card to see if it even works outside of installing Windows? Victor Paul wrote: On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Richardson wrote: I still am having trouble getting my S3 Trio3D to work. When "startx" runs using the S3Virge driver(as Xf86Free.org suggests) the What version of Mandrake are you using? I had an S3 card too, once, and with RH6 (sorry guys) I could not get it to work. The latest S3-servers, 3.3.6 and up, seem to have decent S3 support though. These are included in mdk 7.x, not sure about 6.x. (--) S3V: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8904 rev 1, Linear FB @ 0xf400 PCI unknown? That might be something to look into. Paul -- Rain and tears are the streams that wash away life's dirt... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] X and S3 Trio3D
Victor Richardson wrote: I'm running Mandrake 7.1 (X ver. 3.3.6). I agree that the PCI: unknown might the root of the problem. I'd guess that the video card is not working or that it is a newer version, but I bought the server new in November from IBM and I'd think that the latest drivers in 3.3.6 would include it. I'm thinking on trying X 4.0 today to see if it will help, but it is probably going to turn out to be a hardware problem. And will probably try to run it in Frame Buffer mode as IBM's site suggest, although I'm not sure how primitive the graphics will be. I've never seen Frame Buffer is it like SVGA? Any ideas on how to test the video card to see if it even works outside of installing Windows? Victor Paul wrote: On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Richardson wrote: I still am having trouble getting my S3 Trio3D to work. When "startx" runs using the S3Virge driver(as Xf86Free.org suggests) the What version of Mandrake are you using? I had an S3 card too, once, and with RH6 (sorry guys) I could not get it to work. The latest S3-servers, 3.3.6 and up, seem to have decent S3 support though. These are included in mdk 7.x, not sure about 6.x. (--) S3V: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8904 rev 1, Linear FB @ 0xf400 PCI unknown? That might be something to look into. Paul -- Rain and tears are the streams that wash away life's dirt... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 Have you tried the AOpen P128 , it may work for you, it is based on the S3 Trio 3D/2X chip set.
Re: [newbie] X and S3 Trio3D
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try tonight, I'm desperate. Victor Dennis Myers wrote: Victor Richardson wrote: I'm running Mandrake 7.1 (X ver. 3.3.6). I agree that the PCI: unknown might the root of the problem. I'd guess that the video card is not working or that it is a newer version, but I bought the server new in November from IBM and I'd think that the latest drivers in 3.3.6 would include it. I'm thinking on trying X 4.0 today to see if it will help, but it is probably going to turn out to be a hardware problem. And will probably try to run it in Frame Buffer mode as IBM's site suggest, although I'm not sure how primitive the graphics will be. I've never seen Frame Buffer is it like SVGA? Any ideas on how to test the video card to see if it even works outside of installing Windows? Victor Paul wrote: On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Richardson wrote: I still am having trouble getting my S3 Trio3D to work. When "startx" runs using the S3Virge driver(as Xf86Free.org suggests) the What version of Mandrake are you using? I had an S3 card too, once, and with RH6 (sorry guys) I could not get it to work. The latest S3-servers, 3.3.6 and up, seem to have decent S3 support though. These are included in mdk 7.x, not sure about 6.x. (--) S3V: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8904 rev 1, Linear FB @ 0xf400 PCI unknown? That might be something to look into. Paul -- Rain and tears are the streams that wash away life's dirt... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 Have you tried the AOpen P128 , it may work for you, it is based on the S3 Trio 3D/2X chip set.
Re: [newbie] X and S3 Trio3D
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Richardson wrote: I'm thinking on trying X 4.0 today to see if it will help, but it is probably going to turn out to be a hardware problem. And will probably try to run it in Frame Buffer mode as IBM's site suggest, although I'm not sure how primitive the graphics will be. I've never seen Frame Buffer is it like SVGA? I don't have a clue what Frame Buffer is, so I can't answer that. Any ideas on how to test the video card to see if it even works outside of installing Windows? You can try to find a dos version of the program Dazzle. That's a kaleidoscope. If that works, then the card should be fine. Paul -- To be enlightened actually means to be normal )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
