Re: [newbie] XFS vs. ReiserFS (OT resurrected)
On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 13:43, daRcmaTTeR wrote: Tom, Now you've got me wondering. I had been using Reiser and hadn't had any trouble at all, but a few months back I bought a brand new Dell and when I loaded Mandrake on it I chose XFS as opposed to Reiser. Mostly because of what I'd been reading here on the list. as I understood it Reiser was concerned mostly with the metadata of the files and not the entire file itself, whereas XFS looked after the entire file. header and content together and was able to recover both if necessary. am I wrong in my understanding? Mark Unless something has changed over the last 5 months or so, it was my understanding that data journaling was only available with ext3. That means that everything else out there are metadata journaling or variants thereof. If there is new info available I stand to be corrected. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFS vs. ReiserFS (OT resurrected)
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 05:37 pm, Franki wrote: I too am a proponent of reiserfs... I tried XFS with 8.2 but the inability of a boot disk really caused me problems, (my existing IBM300PL home server won't boot from the 40 gig IBM hard disk by itself (only see's it as a 8.4gig.) so the only way to get linux up and running is via boot disk.. (linux then see's the full 40gig also.) XFS driver is too big to fit on a floppy. I'll not argue that that is the current wisdom, but . While I was usin XFS I was able to make boot disks every time i tried (5 or 6 different kernels, 3 different XFS installs). Two things, I changed floppy's fstab line to use 'auto' rather than 'fs=vfat'. I recompiled the kernel using Mandrake's default config (editing only to enable CONFIG_MK7=y and comment out i586). That was to optimize for athlon, but I don't believe arch type makes the difference. I did one kernel usin i686 (actually by mistake ;) and was able to make a boot disk for that kernel also. Then 'mkbootdisk $(uname -r)' (as root) always successfully made an XFS boot disk. Dunno why, just lucky I guess ;) -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFS vs. ReiserFS (OT resurrected)
I tried XFS with 8.2 but the inability of a boot disk really caused me problems, (my existing IBM300PL home server won't boot from the 40 gig IBM hard disk by itself (only see's it as a 8.4gig.) so the only way to get linux up and running is via boot disk.. (linux then see's the full 40gig also.) XFS driver is too big to fit on a floppy. I've installed XFS on two desktops and a laptop, using XFS on all three. It successfully made a boot disk for me every time. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFS vs. ReiserFS (OT resurrected)
Oops! I mean I put -8.2- on two desktops and a laptop using XFS on all three. No problems with boot disks. Miark I've installed XFS on two desktops and a laptop, using XFS on all three. It successfully made a boot disk for me every time. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XFS vs. ReiserFS (OT resurrected)
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: FWIW, since I asked, after 3 experiences with XFS, I'm back to good 'ol tried'n true ReiserFS for all my Linux partitions. Sort'a way OT, I got a 350W inverter for $47 from Wally World a few months ago. It'll run a 19 TV for 5 to 6 hours off the battery in my Chevy ... and then the truck still starts like nothin was drainin it. It's magic!! So after I have to shut down the computer when the power goes out at least I can still watch TV by candle light ;) Tom, Now you've got me wondering. I had been using Reiser and hadn't had any trouble at all, but a few months back I bought a brand new Dell and when I loaded Mandrake on it I chose XFS as opposed to Reiser. Mostly because of what I'd been reading here on the list. as I understood it Reiser was concerned mostly with the metadata of the files and not the entire file itself, whereas XFS looked after the entire file. header and content together and was able to recover both if necessary. am I wrong in my understanding? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFS vs. ReiserFS (OT resurrected)
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 12:43 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: Tom, Now you've got me wondering. I had been using Reiser and hadn't had any trouble at all, but a few months back I bought a brand new Dell and when I loaded Mandrake on it I chose XFS as opposed to Reiser. Mostly because of what I'd been reading here on the list. as I understood it Reiser was concerned mostly with the metadata of the files and not the entire file itself, whereas XFS looked after the entire file. header and content together and was able to recover both if necessary. am I wrong in my understanding? Mark Heck if I know!! ;) All I know is I experienced some little gremlins here'n there with XFS, and I don't with Reiser. Mostly file transfer problems to vfat partitions, and occasional FS error messages while shutting down. Probly specific to my hardware, or my keyboard/mouse/chair interface ;) -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFS vs. ReiserFS (OT resurrected)
On Wed, 29 May 2002 13:32:37 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck if I know!! ;) All I know is I experienced some little gremlins here'n there with XFS, and I don't with Reiser. Mostly file transfer problems to vfat partitions, and occasional FS error messages while shutting down. Probly specific to my hardware, or my keyboard/mouse/chair interface ;) I know Civileme is a vocal proponent of XFS. On the other-hand I am in league with Tom and use reiser exclusively and have done so since 7.2 when it became possible to use same as /. Running cooker as well as building some of my own programs I am oft times in the position of needing to use the hammer and chisel approach to either unfreeze or reboot my system. Reiserfs has yet to betray me or take revenge for my miss-handling of it. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
