Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Photoshop = The Gimp. I dont know about Dreamweaver or Pagemaker. There is KWord which is supposed to be a frames based word processor, but its highly unstable. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Terry wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop Adobe Pagemaker Macromedia Dreamweaver Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
If CMYK is the only (?) drawback to GIMP, How hard can it be to implement? E.g. if you have an RGB bitmap, how easily could it be transformed into a CMYK bitmap (or bitmaps for each of the colours)? (Is it true that there are some patent/rights tied up with CMYK and printing these?) Cheers, Rod. (Must be a dumb question or else it would already be implemented, right?) At 20:24 19/09/2001 -0500, Matt Greer wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2001 20:04, you wrote: Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. That is incorrect. RGB supports more color than CMYK does, by a rather large margin. CMYK is generally a poor, but required, color space. This page has a good breakdown of the two gamuts, and the differences between additive and subtractive color. http://web.wi.mit.edu/graphics/pub/photoshop/colman.htm Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. HTH, David Charles On 19 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: Thanks, David. That clears that one up, I've had that question for a long time. How about for graphic design on the internet? Is there a quality or other difference between RGB and CMYK? -Paul Rodríguez On 19 Sep 2001 00:15:35 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I quite often work with Photoshop (have been for years), and can tell you that a LOT of graphics/printing/publishing professionals use Photoshop. As for Cyan Magenta Yello blacK (CMYK) it is 4 colour seperation process used for making films that are used when printing (not bubble jet/laser jet printing, but printing press printing) high quality images/colour layouts for magazines, colour papers, lithographic reproductions of art, etc. NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). David Charles On 18 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: =_1000872956-779-48 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 20:04, you wrote: Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. That is incorrect. RGB supports more color than CMYK does, by a rather large margin. CMYK is generally a poor, but required, color space. This page has a good breakdown of the two gamuts, and the differences between additive and subtractive color. http://web.wi.mit.edu/graphics/pub/photoshop/colman.htm Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop Adobe Pagemaker Macromedia Dreamweaver Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User # 218330 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
on 9/18/01 9:04 AM, Terry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop The gimp, which is exceptionally good when you consider it's free. But price aside, it's not as good as photoshop. Adobe Pagemaker None that I know of. Why are you still using pagemaker anyway? :) Macromedia Dreamweaver bluefish isn't too bad. It lacks the macromanagement that dreamweaver has, but for html (and even php/javascript) coding, it's pretty good. I'm starting to like it. Both gimp and bluefish are included with mandrake 8.0, so you may already have them installed or they're easily installed (assuming you have m8.0 of course). For design oriented programs, I use vmware. Which allows you to run a windows session from linux. It's almost as fast as running windows natively. So I do all my illustrator/quark/etc stuff in there. I'm still crossing my fingers that the advent of Mac OSX will cause Adobe/Quark to keep going and bring their apps over to linux as well. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Check out Yellow Dog linux. Randy Donohoe - Original Message - From: hp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs Hi folks Some newbie questions. a) Is there Linux software to encode video as good as or better than WindowsMedia for on-demand true streaming? b) Is there Linux software like MediaCleaner Pro to encode video? c) I have a Mac G3 266. Is there a Linux Mandrake version that runs on it? If so - is there a windows emulator that will run on top of Linux(Mac) - so that I could use the WindowsMedia Encoder? - Harry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hi, I quite often work with Photoshop (have been for years), and can tell you that a LOT of graphics/printing/publishing professionals use Photoshop. As for Cyan Magenta Yello blacK (CMYK) it is 4 colour seperation process used for making films that are used when printing (not bubble jet/laser jet printing, but printing press printing) high quality images/colour layouts for magazines, colour papers, lithographic reproductions of art, etc. NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). David Charles On 18 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 23:15, you wrote: Hi, NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. rgb is red green blue. It has a larger color spectrum than cmyk actually. rgb is used right up to the point the file is needed for press, then is convereted to cmyk typically. The thing is it's an additive color system (add red+green+blue and get white). Where as cmy(k) is a subtractive color system (add cyan+magenta+yellow to get black. Or conversly, start with black and remove cyan, magenta and yellow and you end up with white). Inks are always subtractive, which is why the cmyk system is used. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). I use cmyk every day. Basically everything that's printed (from gorgeous art books to the weekend coupon flyer in your newspaper) relies on cmyk and/or other ink systems. rgb is reserved for things that will never leave a digital medium, and some specialty photographic processes. The gimp lacks support for anything subtractive as far as I can tell, which is more than just cmyk. So until/if that happens, it can't compete with the majority of the stranglehold that photoshop has. Adobe is the microsoft of the design world, afterall :) But don't get me wrong, I think the gimp is a great program. Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:04:06 -0400, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop That's easy: The GIMP. It is very much the equal of Adobe Photoshop, and in some ways (like scripting) it surpasses it. It's only real draback is that it doesn't have a CYMK palette (for legal reasons). Adobe Pagemaker This is more difficult. You can try an advanced word processor, like StarOffice (StarOffice 6.0 is set to hit beta next month). Kword, a simple word processor, shares much in common with DTP apps. Macromedia Dreamweaver A real blind spot for GNU/Linux. Good HTML editors abound (like SCREEM, Bluefish and Quanta+), but there are few WYSIWYG editors. The best at present are Netscape/Mozilla Composer, Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) and IBM Homepage Builder (http://www-4.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/linux/index.html). Of these, IBM Homepage Builder has by far the most features, but it costs money and it is a port from Windows (using Winelib). A 60-day trial version is available for download. Once again, StarOffice can also be used as an HTML editor. From my experience, it has better HTML support than MS Word. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:01:45 +, hp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks Some newbie questions. a) Is there Linux software to encode video as good as or better than WindowsMedia for on-demand true streaming? Try these: http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ http://www.emulinks.de/divx/ b) Is there Linux software like MediaCleaner Pro to encode video? Sorry, I can't help there (I've never heard of MediaCleaner Pro :-) ) c) I have a Mac G3 266. Is there a Linux Mandrake version that runs on it? If so - is there a windows emulator that will run on top of Linux(Mac) - so that I could use the WindowsMedia Encoder? There is a PPC version of Mandrake. Look for details at http://www.linux-mandrake.com. I don't think there are any Windows emulators, though. - Harry -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
