Re: [newbie] audio software
Glad to know there is another Peter Shickele fan on the list :-) I listen to Schickele Mix through a RealAudio stream... is there any way to capture a *.ram stream for later playback? Yes. But you probably need to do some tweaking, and refer to some Twiki pages that were put up sometime back by another member to the list. At the moment, I pull it down in .mp3 form from a station in Ohio (wclv-fm) which airs the show at 8pm pdt on Saturday nights. (As I missed this week's show, it would be nice to find other sources, especially online, as there's not a station in my area I can listen to over FM. Should you have a link, please send it to me - privately so it doesn't flood this list :). The station plays the audio in mp3 though. Regardless of the format, all you really need to do is ensure that you have 'sox' loaded, and that 'sox' is doing its recording off the OSSDSP port - so what it's actually doing is recording off of the soundcard's playback in real time. Invoke a shell script similar to: #! /bin/sh sox -V -c2 -r 44100 -t ossdsp -w -s /dev/dsp -t wav - | lame -h - $1.mp3 That script records input from the soundcard in WAV format - piping it to lame, making a high-quality mp3 in real time. What you also need to do is experiment with levels in kmix or another suitable mixer, which is a bit tricky, and requires some experimentation. I typically also load up the result of that in audacity, which lets me do a number of useful tasks before finishing the final form, burning to CD (recently) or uploading the show to Usenet, which I have done a few times. PS. If you have the show saved (last weeks especially) please contact me offlist for ftp access to this machine - I'd really like to have it :). I think I can find a way to encode/decode the RA file. Other than mencoder, I don't know of a way to *directly* re-encode Real Media files, other than just recording while they play. Another method that's similar if not more direct is mplayer, which can take the URL for the show and then you can tell it to dump the stream using the --dumpstream option. Once dumped, you can process or encode it further. I don't think this will let you listen to the stream at the same time though. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) wrote: I tried doing this with the ogg stream from http://www.streamingsoundtracks.com but the wav file always ends up with silence. Any ideas? I'm listening to that now. Thanks for following up. Note I have kmix with the red record light selected on the slider for IGain I have a Live! Value, and it doesn't give me that option, but if I record the master volume, it works! Is there any reason not to do it off the master volume (assuming other sound sources aren't playing at the same time)? Getting to the stream was problematic. I just right-clicked the link, chose Open with... and typed xmms. I have to do that every time, which is a pain in the ass, but I don't switch stations often, so all I have to do is open xmms and double-click it in the play list. If this method doesn't work, you can dump the stream directly using mplayer/mencoder's stream dump option. 'mplayer -cache 64 -dumpstream http:/urlofwhateveritis' should work. Awesome! The downside - you can't hear it at the same time. As long as the site allows you to connect twice, who cares? ;-) Thanks, David Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
I just right-clicked the link, chose Open with... and typed xmms. I have to do that every time, which is a pain in the ass, but I don't I tried it again - it worked that time. For some reason, I didn't expect xmms to do ogg. Next time, I will remember :). I'm using Konqueror ATM - I think it needs an extra mime type for vorbis. I think that's why it requires you to type in the app all the time. Miark David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
I tried doing this with the ogg stream from http://www.streamingsoundtracks.com but the wav file always ends up with silence. Any ideas? I'm listening to that now. I have the record script running in another console. Recording is OK. Note I have kmix with the red record light selected on the slider for IGain - depending on what card and driver you have, that could appear elsewhere, but on my system it's the one in the middle - there are two of these funny triangles, select the left one. Getting to the stream was problematic. Starting the stream and having kde run 'ogg123' just produced nothing. I had to save the .pls file and then try a variety of ways to open it. What finally worked was to direct ogg123 to the url mentioned in the pls file. I tried with mplayer as well, and it couldn't read the playlist file directly. It appears that some players can get to the URL in the playlist file, and others cannot. Sometimes the playlist or ASX file is only one line long, and if it can't open it, I use `cat foo.asx` instead :). Aside - it's interesting in that page has a premium broadcast of a *lower* quality on live365, and you can listen to the stream for free there. I tried icecast as well, there doesn't seem to be anything there. Incidentally, this whole time sink started some months ago as a thread on expert (or maybe newbie) concerning how to record live streams - something I've wanted to do for a while. There's even a Twiki page on it, but I can't remember where it is. sox - at least in Mandrake/cooker or 9.1 doesn't have the ability to record to .ogg directly. There are ways to coax it to do so, and I believe the Twiki page references that. But that was sometime ago, and through the different installs and upgrades, I've long since reverted to the sox in Mandrake. I still haven't sorted out Audacity - it doesn't seem to want to record directly off of the soundcard. It used to do that; it was fun to see the graph of the sound and the bar keep going to the right in real time. Fine - just record and then import the mp3 into Audacity ;). If this method doesn't work, you can dump the stream directly using mplayer/mencoder's stream dump option. 'mplayer -cache 64 -dumpstream http:/urlofwhateveritis' should work. The downside - you can't hear it at the same time. You'll get a file in the current working directory. When I try it on this URL, I get an ogg vorbis file. And if the URL is video, guess what -- that dumps the video content too ;). (Im going to cc: this back to newbie - it might spark some further discussion, if you don't mind.) Miark David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:36:30 -0700 dfox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I misssed last night's show, though. In case anyone's wondering, Schickele mix by mr. p.d.q. bach himself :) from pri. [snip] Glad to know there is another Peter Shickele fan on the list :-) I listen to Schickele Mix through a RealAudio stream... is there any way to capture a *.ram stream for later playback? -nathan aka mrtortoise Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
--- dfox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall chatting with the developer of another multitrack recorder s/w a number of years ago; he did not think linux was up to snuff for that, and I tried to convince him otherwise. A lot has to do with sound card buffers and how fast your computer is. the idea is to record n tracks of audio directly on the hard drive. broadcast 2000 I think was the software, I think it is still around, and perhaps will work OK now. I haven't tried it in a very long time. I have broadcast 2000, it comes with Mandrake 9.0, but I can't get it to work with 9.1. Maybe I need to spend more time trying to make it work. I have also pretty much decided to try Ardour, even if I have to start downloading it Friday night before I go to bed. (I'm jealous of those who have broadband of some flavor) :-) Beware, audio files in native audacity form eat up large portions of your hard drive. I have 60 GB available so I'm not too concerned I've just now am working from cooker 9.2 beta 1 and i'm getting back all the thnngs i need. How is the 9.2 beta 1 looking? TC __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] audio software Thanks, for the input. I have just started to use Audacity and it may do what I want for editing, but as I move into using my computer for I haven't tried anything intense with it -- such as multitrack recording/editing mixing, dj what have you.. As such I don't know whether or not it is suitable. I recall chatting with the developer of another multitrack recorder s/w a number of years ago; he did not think linux was up to snuff for that, and I tried to convince him otherwise. A lot has to do with sound card buffers and how fast your computer is. the idea is to record n tracks of audio directly on the hard drive. broadcast 2000 I think was the software, I think it is still around, and perhaps will work OK now. I haven't tried it in a very long time. Much of what I do with audacity has been to clean up and edit wav files after I record them. Audacity will record on the fly but it took some doing to get it to record in stereo. The newer versions allow you to do that but you have to configure it to do so. For my needs, it works well, most of the time. the basic task -- recording audio live from the net (radio station show), editing it, publishing it as an .mp3 on usenet and burning it to a cd to listen to on the bus. (well, audacity won't do that, of course) :). I misssed last night's show, though. In case anyone's wondering, Schickele mix by mr. p.d.q. bach himself :) from pri. in 9.0 etc., audacity was problematic in that there were permission difficulties all over the place. I had to run the thing as root (I know, bad idea) just to get it to edit. Beware, audio files in native audacity form eat up large portions of your hard drive. I've just now am working from cooker 9.2 beta 1 and i'm getting back all the thnngs i need. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
I am interested in trying out some sound editing software and I am hoping to get opinions on 2 of them: Rosegarden and Ardour. Since I am I played around a bit with Rosegarden. I haven't really tried ardour, but imho these two are more suited as composition tools rather than sound editing. If editing is what you want to do, check out audacity, as it is pretty slick. I use it to edit radio shows that I 'tape' off the net and such. TC David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio software
Thanks, for the input. I have just started to use Audacity and it may do what I want for editing, but as I move into using my computer for hard disc recording and mixing tracks I wonder if Audacity will still do the job. Oh well, that's a great thing about Linux and OSS, you have options. --- David E Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested in trying out some sound editing software and I am hoping to get opinions on 2 of them: Rosegarden and Ardour. Since I am I played around a bit with Rosegarden. I haven't really tried ardour, but imho these two are more suited as composition tools rather than sound editing. If editing is what you want to do, check out audacity, as it is pretty slick. I use it to edit radio shows that I 'tape' off the net and such. TC David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] audio software
I am interested in trying out some sound editing software and I am hoping to get opinions on 2 of them: Rosegarden and Ardour. Since I am stuck on dialup downloading both of them is not really an option, although that would be the best way to check them out. What do some of you think of these programs? I intend to either import sound files from a Roland recorder, or eventually use one of these programs as a hard disk recorder, and MIDI control is not a particular need at this time. Thanks for sharing your opinions on this. TC __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the better
My dear, dear fellows, I have a question which I would very much like answered thoroughly, extensively and possibly off-list to avoid generating excess traffic (this address is also on the Discordian egroup, and the postings of the two mix in a way inspired by Eris herself. The question is: what about audio software? (Yes, what about it?) Audio software. There is no need for me to start raving and ranting about how detestable a turd Microsoft WinThroes are; however, some very decent proggies were written for the platform. Cubase. Fruity Loops. ReBirth. Rubber Duck, which is my absolutely favourite TB-303 emulator. Kindly relate all the information you consider relevant - you would oblige me incredibly. I would really like to find out what noise one can make on a Linux box. Don't point me towards Macs and BeOS - I haven't got a bloody Mac, nor do I need one; BeOS runs black and white and horribly on my video card, and for this reason it, too, hardly deserves any of my attention at the moment; I'll consider it when I become obscenely rich and invest in a new box. So: audio software for Linux, please. All kinds. Http and ftp links to sites with rpms and cvs links a preference, but anything goes. Thanks in anticipation, and may the hodge and the podge be balanced in you all in the name of Eris and Saint Eddie Izzard, amen! Pope Mickey the 23rd, Zee Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Patron Saint Of All Runaway Eggdrops, Messenger of Discord, Offender Of The Faith.
RE: [newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the better
Hi Loved your email and sense of humour. Can't help you. Oh dear. -- Original Message -- My dear, dear fellows, I have a question which I would very much like answered thoroughly, extensively and possibly off-list to avoid generating excess traffic (this address is also on the Discordian egroup, and the postings of the two mix in a way inspired by Eris herself. The question is: what about audio software? (Yes, what about it?) Audio software. There is no need for me to start raving and ranting about how detestable a turd Microsoft WinThroes are; however, some very decent proggies were written for the platform. Cubase. Fruity Loops. ReBirth. Rubber Duck, which is my absolutely favourite TB-303 emulator. Kindly relate all the information you consider relevant - you would oblige me incredibly. I would really like to find out what noise one can make on a Linux box. Don't point me towards Macs and BeOS - I haven't got a bloody Mac, nor do I need one; BeOS runs black and white and horribly on my video card, and for this reason it, too, hardly deserves any of my attention at the moment; I'll consider it when I become obscenely rich and invest in a new box. So: audio software for Linux, please. All kinds. Http and ftp links to sites with rpms and cvs links a preference, but anything goes. Thanks in anticipation, and may the hodge and the podge be balanced in you all in the name of Eris and Saint Eddie Izzard, amen! Pope Mickey the 23rd, Zee Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Patron Saint Of All Runaway Eggdrops, Messenger of Discord, Offender Of The Faith.
RE: [newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the better
Try: http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/ Let me know what you think! -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vicar In A Tutu Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the better My dear, dear fellows, I have a question which I would very much like answered thoroughly, extensively and possibly off-list to avoid generating excess traffic (this address is also on the Discordian egroup, and the postings of the two mix in a way inspired by Eris herself. The question is: what about audio software? (Yes, what about it?) Audio software. There is no need for me to start raving and ranting about how detestable a turd Microsoft WinThroes are; however, some very decent proggies were written for the platform. Cubase. Fruity Loops. ReBirth. Rubber Duck, which is my absolutely favourite TB-303 emulator. Kindly relate all the information you consider relevant - you would oblige me incredibly. I would really like to find out what noise one can make on a Linux box. Don't point me towards Macs and BeOS - I haven't got a bloody Mac, nor do I need one; BeOS runs black and white and horribly on my video card, and for this reason it, too, hardly deserves any of my attention at the moment; I'll consider it when I become obscenely rich and invest in a new box. So: audio software for Linux, please. All kinds. Http and ftp links to sites with rpms and cvs links a preference, but anything goes. Thanks in anticipation, and may the hodge and the podge be balanced in you all in the name of Eris and Saint Eddie Izzard, amen! Pope Mickey the 23rd, Zee Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Patron Saint Of All Runaway Eggdrops, Messenger of Discord, Offender Of The Faith.
[newbie] audio software install problems
I have been trying to install a few things today and Ive had problems with all of them. Firstly, how do I change or add an environment variable? I have been trying to install sound programs that are compatible with alsa. I have got these messages on two that erred on install: ALSAPLAYER: checking for gtk-config... no checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... no *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gtk-config. configure: error: ** GTK 1.2.0 not installed or broken ** [root@localhost alsaplayer-0.99.31]# ZAMIXER: make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gina/xamixer-0.2.4/pixmaps' gcc -DPACKAGE=\"xamixer\" -DVERSION=\"0.2.4\" -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_LIBASO UND=1 -I. -I.-g -O2 -c xamixer.c In file included from xamixer.c:24: main.h:9: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory make: *** [xamixer.o] Error 1 [root@localhost xamixer-0.2.4]# --- And this one that did install ok but I dont know how to open the prog. It installed things all over the place and I always get this message to do with setting a envirnment varialbe where ever I try: [root@localhost /]# emusic This is eMusic DR0.9, (c) 1997-1999 Isaac Richards Comments/suggestions? Find me on efnet as Chutt. Read the README for details Player Modules: ascd 0.7, (C) 1997 Rob Malda and Denis Bourez genwrap 0.1, (C) 1998 Isaac Richards splay 0.8.2, (C) 1998 Woo-jae Jung tplay 0.5.5, (C) 1997-1998 Ilkka Karvinen xmp 2.0.0dev36, (C) 1996-1999 Claudio Matsuoka and Hipolito Carraro Jr no mixer.. no volume control.. The analysis window is is 58720270 Analysis Modules: oscil 0.2, (C) 1996-1998 Carsten Haitzler synaesthesia 1.4, (C) 1997, 1998 Paul Harrison wayve 0.2, (C) 1996-1998 Carsten Haitzler /dev/dsp: No such device Couldn't connect to EsounD to monitor.. no analysis modes I have gone through the rpm packages to see if I could find a gtk. I did and installed it but still get the error message. I found it under system environment/libraries/tols and it was called gtk tools. Can anyone help? regards Gina
Re: [newbie] audio software install problems
Install the GTK RPM off your MDK 7.0 CD Another of those dependancy things... -WBD - Original Message - From: "Gina" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 2:29 AM Subject: [newbie] audio software install problems I have been trying to install a few things today and Ive had problems with all of them. Firstly, how do I change or add an environment variable? I have been trying to install sound programs that are compatible with alsa. I have got these messages on two that erred on install: ALSAPLAYER: checking for gtk-config... no checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... no *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gtk-config. configure: error: ** GTK 1.2.0 not installed or broken ** [root@localhost alsaplayer-0.99.31]# ZAMIXER: make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gina/xamixer-0.2.4/pixmaps' gcc -DPACKAGE=\"xamixer\" -DVERSION=\"0.2.4\" -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_LIBASO UND=1 -I. -I.-g -O2 -c xamixer.c In file included from xamixer.c:24: main.h:9: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory make: *** [xamixer.o] Error 1 [root@localhost xamixer-0.2.4]# --- And this one that did install ok but I dont know how to open the prog. It installed things all over the place and I always get this message to do with setting a envirnment varialbe where ever I try: [root@localhost /]# emusic This is eMusic DR0.9, (c) 1997-1999 Isaac Richards Comments/suggestions? Find me on efnet as Chutt. Read the README for details Player Modules: ascd 0.7, (C) 1997 Rob Malda and Denis Bourez genwrap 0.1, (C) 1998 Isaac Richards splay 0.8.2, (C) 1998 Woo-jae Jung tplay 0.5.5, (C) 1997-1998 Ilkka Karvinen xmp 2.0.0dev36, (C) 1996-1999 Claudio Matsuoka and Hipolito Carraro Jr no mixer.. no volume control.. The analysis window is is 58720270 Analysis Modules: oscil 0.2, (C) 1996-1998 Carsten Haitzler synaesthesia 1.4, (C) 1997, 1998 Paul Harrison wayve 0.2, (C) 1996-1998 Carsten Haitzler /dev/dsp: No such device Couldn't connect to EsounD to monitor.. no analysis modes I have gone through the rpm packages to see if I could find a gtk. I did and installed it but still get the error message. I found it under system environment/libraries/tols and it was called gtk tools. Can anyone help? regards Gina
Re: [newbie] audio software install problems
I did find one in the RPM package manager and installed it but still get the error message. I found it under system environment/libraries/tols and it was called gtk tools. I still get the error message. regards Gina - Original Message - From: "Warren Doney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Gina" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2000 07:01: pm Subject: Re: [newbie] audio software install problems Install the GTK RPM off your MDK 7.0 CD Another of those dependancy things... -WBD
