Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 07 February 2004 8:11 pm, Terence Golightly wrote: chomp! I tried to use a 95 boot disk to run the firmware upgrade. I got the same message to the effect that the archive won't execute in dos mode. thanks, Terry OK, I have no clue why using such a floppy works every time for me and won't work at all for you. Firmware upgrades should _not_ be dependant on any specific OS, they should always run from a DOS command or require to be written to the drive as a part of the software that runs the device. What I mean is the firmware should either be held in the device, or loaded as needed when the device is called. Two reasons I'll never use or recommend Plextor drives: 1.) Price. They don't do anything cheaper units don't to the best of my knowledge; 2.) Overly complicated (obviously) firmware updates. Yet I know people that swear by Plextor. I'm all out of ideas and as usual pressed for time so I'll end with a question. (Watch for word wrap!) Have you read any of this? http://www.google.ca/linux?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=Plextor+CD-R+%A0+PX-W1210A%3B+firmwarebtnG=Google+Searchmeta= Best of luck to you, I'm sorry I couldn't help you get this sorted out. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.3mdk 11:00:15 up 1 day, 22:06, 1 user, load average: 0.58, 0.50, 0.28 A diplomatic husband said to his wife, How do you expect me to remember your birthday when you never look any older? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAJnrFZqvqlrLPr5YRAmM8AKClQlWh0oELlGN1RTy49yokAYa4CwCgo6Rp 49BT919Qi8391aP4yTTnRVM= =73Lr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
Alistair, On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 03:21, Alastair Scott wrote: On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 03:11, Terence Golightly wrote: I tried to use a 95 boot disk to run the firmware upgrade. I got the same message to the effect that the archive won't execute in dos mode. In other words, the utility is expecting Windows itself - not just a boot disk created using Windows - to run :/ Appears so. This is becoming more common, and what happens next depends on the motherboard manufacturer; a trawl of its support site would be useful. I'm trying to upgrade the firmware on my plextor pw1210a. Yeah that is the next step. I use Asus which has always been very good; it provides a DOS updater (called AFLASH.EXE) and the BIOS image as a separate binary file. Put the two on any boot disk created from Windows, reboot and do AFLASH binary filename from the prompt. Your manufacturer might not be so accommodating, unfortunately. http://www.bootdisk.com/ is useful - perhaps make a quick boot disk #1 .. #4 might offer a solution? That is where I got a caldera drdos bootdisk, which was the first one I tried with drdflash.exe, then the win95 boot disk mentioned in previous posts. Thanks for your reply, Terry -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 06 February 2004 6:48 pm, Terence Golightly wrote: whack Yes there is an upgrade available. Then I suggest you use it. Depending of course whether Plextor states that it's to make the drive compatible with larger blanks, or for whatever reason actually. I downloaded the caldera drdos drdflash.exe and installed it from my windows machine. downloaded the cdrom upgrade directly to my floppy and proceeded to shutdown-reboot and try to flash. I got the error message to the effect that it won't run in dos mode. Is there a way around this besides the obvious swapping the cd drive back to my win95 box? I usually just go to http://www.bootdisk.com and download any of the DOS based boot disk files. I bookmarked it!! Thanks agin, Terry Hi Terry; Since you have Windows 95 box just format a floppy with the system files only. Once you have sys.com and drvspace.exe on it copy the firmware flash to it then boot from it. At the command prompt (a:\) just type the name of the firmware upgrade utility and it should run. That's all I do for all BIOS and firmware updates, I just keep a floppy with those files ready to add whatever flash utility is pertinent to the drive or BIOS to be upgraded. Good luck; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.3mdk 00:04:46 up 11:10, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.07, 0.02 Those who hate and fight must stop themselves -- otherwise it is not stopped. -- Spock, Day of the Dove, stardate unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAJI+7ZqvqlrLPr5YRAi9gAJoDCLI8VOBL5tSdgnJs7EVq6MXZGwCgp7oS lJoUzn8+wQXQ9hPdirEIQS8= =KS/N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
Terence Golightly wrote: re-examining the man page to cdrecord and choosing the -ignsize option. I burned, I see files, I happy!!! Cheers to all, Terry That's right , unless you specify differently cdrecord, as I understand it , assumes your media size is 650MB, but as long as you take care to insure that your media is large enough to receive all the data, using the -ignsize option allows your to override it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 05 February 2004 2:58 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Terence Golightly wrote: re-examining the man page to cdrecord and choosing the -ignsize option. I burned, I see files, I happy!!! Cheers to all, Terry That's right , unless you specify differently cdrecord, as I understand it , assumes your media size is 650MB, but as long as you take care to insure that your media is large enough to receive all the data, using the -ignsize option allows your to override it. John The first thing I would do with any older CD-R/RW is check the manufacturer's site to find whether there's a firmware update available. That's the easy way to ensure capability of larger capacity disks. ignsize can be dangerous because it instructs the writing app to over burn. Often a very bad thing. If you want to see what cdrecord does before it starts to write to a blank run the following command with a blank in the drive:. Alter the dev= part to suit your environment of course, not everyone's burner is dev=0,0,0: cdrecord -atip dev=0,0,0 You'll get more than you want to know about the device, the media, the version of cdrecord you're running, etc.. Thusly: Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a25 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: '' Identifikation : '52X24X52 CD-RW ' Revision : '1.07' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 7 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable ATIP start of lead in: -11646 (97:26/54) ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) Disk type:Long strategy type (Cyanine, AZO or similar) Manuf. index: 10 Manufacturer: Lead Data Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ I've assembled far too many boxes for people using recycled components such as CD-RW drives to neglect a firmware update, and if the drive is old but has no update available I always test with larger capacity media before I'll use it or stick it into a new system. The price isn't high enough to justify it, the A-Open shown above that's in this machine was only $39.95 Canadian. The DVD +-R/+-RW (Sony) I installed yesterday was only $180.00 Canadian. Both use any size blank you can buy. With the software built in for Mandrake 10 beta2. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.2mdk 10:20:41 up 1:02, 1 user, load average: 0.50, 0.41, 0.29 Most people can do without the essentials, but not without the luxuries. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIn7vZqvqlrLPr5YRAl5QAKCnTSxI6vyuifQDKyjV6E5de1pnzwCfRzNB 3GR15hXRrL+Ieq/PkO6sETQ= =g/og -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
On Thursday 05 February 2004 17:35, Charlie Mahan wrote: The first thing I would do with any older CD-R/RW is check the manufacturer's site to find whether there's a firmware update available. That's the easy way to ensure capability of larger capacity disks. ignsize can be dangerous because it instructs the writing app to over burn. Often a very bad thing. Totally side-issue (apologies to the original poster) - I have an issue with an older drive being unable to read home-recorded disks. I'm wondering if the higher capacity of these disks is the reason, although they are far from full. Any comments? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
Charlie, try this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] terryg]$ cdrecord -atip dev=0,0,0 Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'CD-R PX-W1210A' Revision : '1.01' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x01 (medium not present - tray closed) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk! [EMAIL PROTECTED] terryg]$ The first thing I would do with any older CD-R/RW is check the manufacturer's site to find whether there's a firmware update available. Yes there is an upgrade available. That's the easy way to ensure capability of larger capacity disks. ignsize can be dangerous because it instructs the writing app to over burn. Often a very bad thing. If you want to see what cdrecord does before it starts to write to a blank run the following command with a blank in the drive:. Alter the dev= part to suit your environment of course, not everyone's burner is dev=0,0,0: snip,snip,snip I've assembled far too many boxes for people using recycled components such as CD-RW drives to neglect a firmware update, and if the drive is old but has no update available I always test with larger capacity media before I'll use it or stick it into a new system. I noticed that the firmware upgrades are in an m$ executable format. Is it time to get the dos boot floppy out again or is there a better way? I have a FAT32 partition on my disk but I've never used it. I have samba installed and running but no access to my local /mnt/windows partition, or can I just change the group permissions and write to it? snip Thanks, Terry -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 05 February 2004 7:33 pm, Terence Golightly wrote: Charlie, try this: whack Yes there is an upgrade available. Then I suggest you use it. Depending of course whether Plextor states that it's to make the drive compatible with larger blanks, or for whatever reason actually. snip,snip,snip I've assembled far too many boxes for people using recycled components such as CD-RW drives to neglect a firmware update, and if the drive is old but has no update available I always test with larger capacity media before I'll use it or stick it into a new system. I noticed that the firmware upgrades are in an m$ executable format. Is it time to get the dos boot floppy out again or is there a better way? I have a FAT32 partition on my disk but I've never used it. I have samba installed and running but no access to my local /mnt/windows partition, or can I just change the group permissions and write to it? I usually just go to http://www.bootdisk.com and download any of the DOS based boot disk files. Or a Free DOS version. All you really need on the disk is the firmware file and installer plus command.com and system files. The rest is a waste of effort and space. You should also be able to use something like Dr DOS or similar. Or just get a friend to make you a Windows boot disk and just save the parts you need then add the firmware package from Plextor. It's really not that hard. Thanks, Terry No problem. Let the list know how it goes? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.2mdk 21:51:50 up 10:59, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.02, 0.00 Stay away from flying saucers today. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIx9xZqvqlrLPr5YRAlm/AJkBroEVf5Q4MHifzTmlkrK+U1wlIgCeLfN5 3xY/njL4oOATZlbWGnBYof0= =h1ll -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
Well here I am replying to my own posts. (remember as long as I don't ask myself questions and then answer them I'm.. ok right!) I apparently resolved the issue, but re-examining the man page to cdrecord and choosing the -ignsize option. I burned, I see files, I happy!!! Cheers to all, Terry On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 10:09, Terence Golightly wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 08:14, Terence Golightly wrote: List, Below is an alias of the command I used in an attempt to burn the mdk 9.2 install cd iso. When I used mkcd on previous attempts to burn an iso ooops that should read cdrecord or biso alias. Sorry to discs of questionable quality I got the error at the bottom as well. Question: What caused the failure? If it needs to use overburn, I looked at the cdrecord man page, but I didn't see a note on overburn; is that part of the driveropts or a separate 'dashed' CL parameter? Or.. Is it somehow related to the buffer being full 10704 times? Thanks, Terry My new sig: IIRC CRS alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao' [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ biso Mandrake92-cd1-inst.i586.iso Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' Driveropts: 'burnfree' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'CD-R PX-W1210A' Revision : '1.01' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1190112 = 1162 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 651 MB Total size: 748 MB (74:10.80) = 333810 sectors Lout start: 749 MB (74:12/60) = 333810 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11634 (97:26/66) ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 3 Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation Blocks total: 359846 Blocks current: 359846 Blocks remaining: 26036 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Turning BURN-Free on Performing OPC... Sending CUE sheet... Writing pregap for track 1 at -150 Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 651 of 651 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 94%] 4.1x. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 683642880/683642880 (333810 sectors). Writing time: 1176.565s Average write speed 3.8x. Min drive buffer fill was 94% Fixating... Fixating time:2.803s cdrecord: fifo had 10769 puts and 10769 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 10704 times full, min fill was 98%. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ ls -la /mnt/cdrom total 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ mkcd --checkdisc /dev/scd0 9.2-download.md5sums.asc mkcd: mkcd: Checking the disc FAILED (computed d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e expected ) ERROR: Checking the disc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 08:14, Terence Golightly wrote: List, Below is an alias of the command I used in an attempt to burn the mdk 9.2 install cd iso. When I used mkcd on previous attempts to burn an iso ooops that should read cdrecord or biso alias. Sorry to discs of questionable quality I got the error at the bottom as well. Question: What caused the failure? If it needs to use overburn, I looked at the cdrecord man page, but I didn't see a note on overburn; is that part of the driveropts or a separate 'dashed' CL parameter? Or.. Is it somehow related to the buffer being full 10704 times? Thanks, Terry My new sig: IIRC CRS alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao' [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ biso Mandrake92-cd1-inst.i586.iso Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' Driveropts: 'burnfree' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'CD-R PX-W1210A' Revision : '1.01' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1190112 = 1162 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 651 MB Total size: 748 MB (74:10.80) = 333810 sectors Lout start: 749 MB (74:12/60) = 333810 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11634 (97:26/66) ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 3 Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation Blocks total: 359846 Blocks current: 359846 Blocks remaining: 26036 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Turning BURN-Free on Performing OPC... Sending CUE sheet... Writing pregap for track 1 at -150 Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 651 of 651 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 94%] 4.1x. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 683642880/683642880 (333810 sectors). Writing time: 1176.565s Average write speed 3.8x. Min drive buffer fill was 94% Fixating... Fixating time:2.803s cdrecord: fifo had 10769 puts and 10769 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 10704 times full, min fill was 98%. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ ls -la /mnt/cdrom total 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ mkcd --checkdisc /dev/scd0 9.2-download.md5sums.asc mkcd: mkcd: Checking the disc FAILED (computed d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e expected ) ERROR: Checking the disc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
