Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration
this looks to me as if you might have the wrong type of login setup. does your ISP use chap, pap, or script. is your password and login name correct 9including caps?) the time out setting may also be the answer. On Saturday 28 July 2001 00:01, Tom Malone wrote: Ok everyone, Sorry to drag you through another newbie-from-windows-convert-transition - I'm sure it was painful enough for you all the first time you went through it ;) Anyway, I found a binary rpm driver that matched my distribution and kernel, installed it, and had some success. However, it dropped the connection (some PPP problem it says). Here is what happened, step-by-step, after i clicked OK in the KPPP dialogue box: Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: pppd 2.4.0 started by tom, uid 501 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyLT0 Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Modem hangup Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Connection terminated. Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Exit. Again - i'm sorry if this turns out to be something simple, but I REALLY appreciate your help! Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 23:09, you wrote: Dennis, It is a winModem, and I am using KPPP in the KDE desktop. The KPPP configuration dialogue says the modem is on /dev/modem, if that help.. I am completely new to this linux stuff - I don't know how to change the port the modem is on, and I am really confused (and not just a little afraid :) ) by the prospect of having to compile some linmodem driver software.. Tom -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 19:18, you wrote: I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone What brand name is the modem? If it is on com2 in windows then you should set it up as ttyS1 on linux. ports start as ttyS0(com1), ttyS1(com2)etc. If it is a so called controllerless internal modem then it is a winmodem and you may have a problem unless you find the linmodem drivers. If it is an external modem no USB you should be ok. Are you using KPPP in the KDE desktop? A little more info would help if the above does not correct the problem. We'll be waiting : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 That makes the problem a bit more difficult, I have never used a winmodem and my advice would be to get a real modem external, and serial connection to your computer. However, don't panic, relax, you are looking straight on at the learning curve. I was there one year ago or so. Now, the url for the linmodems support I do not know, so someone please repost it for Tom. Then the compilation help needed is also here on the list cause there are several people who have done it or know how. I call for there support also. You will learn so much in the next few weeks and months, and sometimes the frustration may get to you, but hang in there it is worth the ride. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
[newbie] Modem Configuration
I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone
Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration
On Friday 27 July 2001 23:09, you wrote: Dennis, It is a winModem, and I am using KPPP in the KDE desktop. The KPPP configuration dialogue says the modem is on /dev/modem, if that help.. I am completely new to this linux stuff - I don't know how to change the port the modem is on, and I am really confused (and not just a little afraid :) ) by the prospect of having to compile some linmodem driver software.. Tom -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 19:18, you wrote: I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone What brand name is the modem? If it is on com2 in windows then you should set it up as ttyS1 on linux. ports start as ttyS0(com1), ttyS1(com2)etc. If it is a so called controllerless internal modem then it is a winmodem and you may have a problem unless you find the linmodem drivers. If it is an external modem no USB you should be ok. Are you using KPPP in the KDE desktop? A little more info would help if the above does not correct the problem. We'll be waiting : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 That makes the problem a bit more difficult, I have never used a winmodem and my advice would be to get a real modem external, and serial connection to your computer. However, don't panic, relax, you are looking straight on at the learning curve. I was there one year ago or so. Now, the url for the linmodems support I do not know, so someone please repost it for Tom. Then the compilation help needed is also here on the list cause there are several people who have done it or know how. I call for there support also. You will learn so much in the next few weeks and months, and sometimes the frustration may get to you, but hang in there it is worth the ride. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Fwd: RE: [newbie] Modem Configuration
Ok folks, here's another that is over my head for now. Please jump in here and advise Tom on his need for help. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: RE: [newbie] Modem Configuration Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 23:09:39 -0400 From: Tom Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis Ok - I found a binary version for Mandrake 8.0 - 2.4.3 kernel, and verified that that is the version i have by typing uname -r in the terminal. I know this is a stupid question, but I don't know how - i have the rpm now on my windows pc and am going to transfer it to my laptop (with mandrake) via floppy - can you please tell me how to install it? Thanks! Tom -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 19:18, you wrote: I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone What brand name is the modem? If it is on com2 in windows then you should set it up as ttyS1 on linux. ports start as ttyS0(com1), ttyS1(com2)etc. If it is a so called controllerless internal modem then it is a winmodem and you may have a problem unless you find the linmodem drivers. If it is an external modem no USB you should be ok. Are you using KPPP in the KDE desktop? A little more info would help if the above does not correct the problem. We'll be waiting : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 --- -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: RE: [newbie] Modem Configuration
u can run as root kpackage n open the file or rpm -i rpmthing.rpm - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie Linux-Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: Fwd: RE: [newbie] Modem Configuration Ok folks, here's another that is over my head for now. Please jump in here and advise Tom on his need for help. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: RE: [newbie] Modem Configuration Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 23:09:39 -0400 From: Tom Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis Ok - I found a binary version for Mandrake 8.0 - 2.4.3 kernel, and verified that that is the version i have by typing uname -r in the terminal. I know this is a stupid question, but I don't know how - i have the rpm now on my windows pc and am going to transfer it to my laptop (with mandrake) via floppy - can you please tell me how to install it? Thanks! Tom -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 19:18, you wrote: I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone What brand name is the modem? If it is on com2 in windows then you should set it up as ttyS1 on linux. ports start as ttyS0(com1), ttyS1(com2)etc. If it is a so called controllerless internal modem then it is a winmodem and you may have a problem unless you find the linmodem drivers. If it is an external modem no USB you should be ok. Are you using KPPP in the KDE desktop? A little more info would help if the above does not correct the problem. We'll be waiting : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 --- -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:18:22 -0400 Tom Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, First off - Welcome to Linux OK then, a couple of points to start with.. You need to give us rather more information.. What kind of system do you have?? What kind of modem? (You are dual booting with Windows - I see that from your headers :-) Go to Control Panel -- Modems -- Properties (I think) and run the utility which looks at the modem's internal registers. From there make a note as to which Address and Port windows has the modem assigned to. Make a note of what the modems Identification string is. If that Id string or the modem labels in Control Panel -- Systems -- has the characters 'DSF' or 'HCL' in it - then you may have a software modem and it _MAY NOT_ (not _will_not_) be supported by Linux. This will mean maybe a different approach. OK Com Ports. In Linux the serial ports are labeled /dev/ttyS0, /dev/ttyS1 and so on, /dev/ttyS0 is the equivilent of Windows/MsDos Com1: and so on. So you need to tell your dialer software where it it in the /dev/ttySx form. A side note to that, I suggest that you do not assign your modem to Com1 (/dev/ttyS0) as the is a chance that your mouse regardless of type may also be assigned there resulting in device conflicts. Nuf to start with?? Write direct if you wish - I shall echo to the list. Cheers John I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone -- The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) Registered Linux User: 102826
RE: [newbie] Modem Configuration
Ok everyone, Sorry to drag you through another newbie-from-windows-convert-transition - I'm sure it was painful enough for you all the first time you went through it ;) Anyway, I found a binary rpm driver that matched my distribution and kernel, installed it, and had some success. However, it dropped the connection (some PPP problem it says). Here is what happened, step-by-step, after i clicked OK in the KPPP dialogue box: Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: pppd 2.4.0 started by tom, uid 501 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyLT0 Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Modem hangup Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Connection terminated. Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Exit. Again - i'm sorry if this turns out to be something simple, but I REALLY appreciate your help! Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 23:09, you wrote: Dennis, It is a winModem, and I am using KPPP in the KDE desktop. The KPPP configuration dialogue says the modem is on /dev/modem, if that help.. I am completely new to this linux stuff - I don't know how to change the port the modem is on, and I am really confused (and not just a little afraid :) ) by the prospect of having to compile some linmodem driver software.. Tom -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 19:18, you wrote: I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone What brand name is the modem? If it is on com2 in windows then you should set it up as ttyS1 on linux. ports start as ttyS0(com1), ttyS1(com2)etc. If it is a so called controllerless internal modem then it is a winmodem and you may have a problem unless you find the linmodem drivers. If it is an external modem no USB you should be ok. Are you using KPPP in the KDE desktop? A little more info would help if the above does not correct the problem. We'll be waiting : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 That makes the problem a bit more difficult, I have never used a winmodem and my advice would be to get a real modem external, and serial connection to your computer. However, don't panic, relax, you are looking straight on at the learning curve. I was there one year ago or so. Now, the url for the linmodems support I do not know, so someone please repost it for Tom. Then the compilation help needed is also here on the list cause there are several people who have done it or know how. I call for there support also. You will learn so much in the next few weeks and months, and sometimes the frustration may get to you, but hang in there it is worth the ride. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
FW: [newbie] Modem Configuration
if you loaded linuxconf, run it, go to misc options, and select modem that windows has a detect option, if you select that, it will query your ports and look for a modem, if it finds one, it will make a symlink between your port and /dev/modem from then on, you just select /dev/modem in everything.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Malone Sent: Saturday, 28 July 2001 7:18 AM To: Mandrake Newbies Subject: [newbie] Modem Configuration I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone
Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration
Tom: They are called WinModems because they only intended to work under windows. However, SOME of them can be made to work under other operating systems. Go here: www.idir.net.~gromitkc/winmodem.html and here: www.linmodems.org Regards, Carroll Tom Malone wrote: When I go into the KDE Control center, and expand the System Menu, and then click on KDE System Control, and the check the properties of the 56k WinModem in the device manager, it says the modem is operational. But if I try to connect to my ISP, it says the modem is busy. Anu idea what could cause it? TIA Tom Malone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:29 PM To: NEWBIE Mandrake List Subject: FW: [newbie] Modem Configuration if you loaded linuxconf, run it, go to misc options, and select modem that windows has a detect option, if you select that, it will query your ports and look for a modem, if it finds one, it will make a symlink between your port and /dev/modem from then on, you just select /dev/modem in everything.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Malone Sent: Saturday, 28 July 2001 7:18 AM To: Mandrake Newbies Subject: [newbie] Modem Configuration I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone
Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration
On Saturday 28 July 2001 00:01, you wrote: Ok everyone, Sorry to drag you through another newbie-from-windows-convert-transition - I'm sure it was painful enough for you all the first time you went through it ;) Anyway, I found a binary rpm driver that matched my distribution and kernel, installed it, and had some success. However, it dropped the connection (some PPP problem it says). Here is what happened, step-by-step, after i clicked OK in the KPPP dialogue box: Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: pppd 2.4.0 started by tom, uid 501 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyLT0 Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Modem hangup Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Connection terminated. Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Exit. Again - i'm sorry if this turns out to be something simple, but I REALLY appreciate your help! Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration No appologies needed. We are here to help as best we can, some are more versed in linux than others, I'm on the low end of the knowhow scale. hehe.. but, Ok, this one I have seen and it might be as simple as setting the modem timeout to a higher value. On the desktop click on the internet connection icon and then setupmodem and look for the timeout setting down near the bottom of the dialog box , set it for 90 secs or more. This can be done in an editor also, but I'm am sadly lacking in console knowledge. Working on that though. See if the timeout setting will get you connected. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] MODEM CONFIGURATION
Raberto, What kind of modem do you have and what is the name of the driver that you have? We need some more information in order to help you. Don --- Roberto del Bosque Gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone can help me? I have linux Mandrake 7.2 installed in my computer... I have a winmodem, but it have drivers to work in linux... The problem is that I don´t know how install it and how configure it. Please help. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] modem configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I have a Modem Blaster Flash 56 II ISA. (DI5601-1). I finally finished getting my sb-sound card working and now I would like to tackle this modem. It is not recognized by hardrake. Does anyone know how to set this up from a command line. Mine isn't recognized either... but it works perfectly. I use kppp to connect and i suppose that setting the right com port and initialization strings it will work fine... -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] modem configuration
In a message dated Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:16:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Modem Blaster Flash 56 II ISA. (DI5601-1). I finally finished getting my sb-sound card working and now I would like to tackle this modem. It is not recognized by hardrake. Does anyone know how to set this up from a command line. Also how do get to the command line without the terminal window? Does it make a difference -- like DOS thru windows and real DOS? First Question - What kind of modem? Does it operate via windows? More detail... Second part - 'Linux 3' given at the lilo command prompt at startup or 'telenit 3' as su from a console window (without the quotes) -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) ADDITIONAL MODEM INFO: COM 3 IRQ 9 I/O: 03E8H-03EFH
Re: [newbie] modem configuration
I will give it a shot; any suggestions on ISP's friendly to linux. Thank you. In a message dated Sun, 15 Oct 2000 3:00:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I have a Modem Blaster Flash 56 II ISA. (DI5601-1). I finally finished getting my sb-sound card working and now I would like to tackle this modem. It is not recognized by hardrake. Does anyone know how to set this up from a command line. Mine isn't recognized either... but it works perfectly. I use kppp to connect and i suppose that setting the right com port and initialization strings it will work fine... -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] modem configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:16:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Modem Blaster Flash 56 II ISA. (DI5601-1). I finally finished getting my sb-sound card working and now I would like to tackle this modem. It is not recognized by hardrake. Does anyone know how to set this up from a command line. Also how do get to the command line without the terminal window? Does it make a difference -- like DOS thru windows and real DOS? First Question - What kind of modem? Does it operate via windows? More detail... Second part - 'Linux 3' given at the lilo command prompt at startup or 'telenit 3' as su from a console window (without the quotes) -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) ADDITIONAL MODEM INFO: COM 3 IRQ 9 I/O: 03E8H-03EFH Ok Com3 in windows equates to ttyS2 under Linux However - AND THIS IS IMPORTANT!! - Your mouse will be on ttyS0(zero) regardless of whether it is serial or USB, so you may a conflict because Com1 = ttyS0. Now you may be able to get it going by issuing setserial commands from a console prompt as root. The relevant setserial commands are as follows: (without the quotes) 'setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0x03e8 spd_vhi skip_test irq 9' and 'setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A' If entering these commands (as root) from your console has enabled your to access the modem - then your modem has been linked to /dev/ttyS3 After you have proved the above - add those lines to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc/local so that they are executed when your system restarts. But I have a feeling that this may well be a winmodem, and this may not solve your problem. Boot to windows, Control Panel -- System -- Devices. Do you have a device there called HCL? Open up Control Panel -- Devices -- Modems. Select your modem from the list, select Properties, then More Info toward bottom of the panel. In the raft of info which is displayed after a minute or so, do you see the string 'HCL' ? If the answer to EITHER of the questions is Yes - then you have a winmodem! And you may be better off to go out and obtain an external modem - at least then you will have a modem which will operate in ANY computing environment. A side effect of this is that, with Winter coming up you will be able to run competitions on the ponds to see who can skim a winmodem the furthest grin Try the above and keep us posted. We'll deal with accessing your ISP on the next round. OK? Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: [newbie] modem configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Modem Blaster Flash 56 II ISA. (DI5601-1). I finally finished getting my sb-sound card working and now I would like to tackle this modem. It is not recognized by hardrake. Does anyone know how to set this up from a command line. Also how do get to the command line without the terminal window? Does it make a difference -- like DOS thru windows and real DOS? First Question - What kind of modem? Does it operate via windows? More detail... Second part - 'Linux 3' given at the lilo command prompt at startup or 'telenit 3' as su from a console window (without the quotes) -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: A place for LinModems? [Long-OT] (was: Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem)
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999,Michael R. Batchelor wrote: | I'm not so sure this a good long term strategy. I agree that using a | $200 CPU to replace a .50 chip is pretty stupid, but some of the DSP | based software modems are very robust at call management in the MS | windows environment. | | At the risk of flames, let's think about the discussion that was raging | through here a few weeks ago about browsers. I made a strong point that | the browser and email client were crucial for maintaining a desktop | presence. I'll be willing to stick my neck on the line and make a | similar statement that the same is true for telephony applications. And | there are surly others I haven't thought through yet, all of which will | be "crucial" to the long term success of Mandrake as a desktop. | | But how can they all be "the one crucial app" you ask. Well, they're not | all the "single" crucial application (but I think the browser is | probably most important user application). The crucial application is | the whole system. If we think about an automobile for a minute I'll | explain. | | In an automobile the user expects to be able to use the "entire" package | upon delivery. But no individual piece of the package is suitable to the | drivers purpose, only the entire package. No automobile salesperson | would think of trying to get me to settle for only an engine or only a | transmission or only tires. None of those individual components is | sufficient to meet my transportation needs. Likewise, no salesperson is | going to try to convince me to accept a vehicle without an engine or | without a transmission or without tires. Each of those components is | necessary for the package to function as intended. | | These are the analogous parts for the browser and email client. Like it | or not, most of the millions of PCs which will be sold this holiday | season are for people to surf the net and exchange email. Neither is | sufficient; both are necessary. Period. That's life. Get over it. | | Now, lets go back to the automobile. As I'm standing on the lot looking | at the various items for sale, I notice that some of them have cute | little map lights and rear window defrosters. I decide I like those | touches, and I'm swayed by emotion rather than logic. The truth is I | almost never need the cute little map light and the rear window | defroster, but I buy then anyway. (OK they're crucial for some drivers, | but not most.) | | The call management functions of a WinModem will be available to about | 90% of those PCs sold this year, and almost nobody will ever use them. | I've personally bought 5-6 computers/modems with all that stuff in the | past few years and never turned any of it on. But I would guess that 10% | of the people who buy the stuff try to use the call management | functions, and perhaps 5% of the people who try it actually continue to | use it. So, in the long run, lets assume that 0.5% of the users actually | find the call management function useful, and everybody else abandons | it. So, do we say, "Well, nobody uses it in the long run, so we'll leave | it out." Or do we acknowledge that, "Despite that fact almost nobody is | going to use this, it's a major selling point on the front end. So we | need it, or we'll be shut out." | | Now, let's finally consider one more totally unnecessary option | available on modern automobiles. Back in the 1920's Cadillac developed | an "electric starter" for their vehicles. At that time it was an extreme | luxury. These days, however, you cannot buy a production automobile | without an electric starter. And if we started the "Mandrake Automobile | Company" making cars without electric starters we'd go out of business | fast. Even if we made astonishingly beautiful vehicles with map lights | and rear window defrosters, ordinary people will still flock to the | "inferior competitors" who have those convenient electric starters | instead of a crank. | | Well, the electric starter is the installer routines. And, while it's | true that Mandrake may be a far technically superior and elegant choice | to many of the other Linux distributions, and to that "other" OS, it's a | bitch for Grandpa to get set up compared to taking an HP Brio with Win98 | preinstalled out of the box from Wal-Mart. If anyone wants to help with | that aspect, I'd suggest that it's probably the most crucial hurdle to | overcome. (There is a group named SEUL - Simple End User Linux, | www.seul.org, but I don't much about them.) | | So, I've ranted enough. More OT comments? | | MB Michael, You have a point, and I agree that there is room for improvement - especially in the web-related software. However, we as new Linux users must remember that the Linux community is not a tightly organized one, and that the people who produce the software we are
RE: Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999,ben bradley wrote: | i believe, and this just might be me... but i don't think that you can use winmodems with linux hence the name winmodem i think they will only run with windows i know they won't run under dos anyone know if this is true? || ben | | | | | | I Got My Free E-mail Account, Get Yours! - http://www.AntiOnline.com | AntiOnline - The Internet's Information Security Super Center! Yes it is. Winmodems use software emulation for some hardware, and the code is not on the modem, so the "drivers" are required. As a result I am told they are SLOW! Best to get a "real" modem - meaning one with all the hardware in hardware form. MTC, -- Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The measure of a man is in his honor ...
A place for LinModems? [Long-OT] (was: Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem)
Of course, some company had to go and break that rule... That's right, there are now LinModems as well. Do yourself a favor and avoid them. There are better things for a CPU to be doing than the work of a $.50 part on a modem. I'm not so sure this a good long term strategy. I agree that using a $200 CPU to replace a .50 chip is pretty stupid, but some of the DSP based software modems are very robust at call management in the MS windows environment. At the risk of flames, let's think about the discussion that was raging through here a few weeks ago about browsers. I made a strong point that the browser and email client were crucial for maintaining a desktop presence. I'll be willing to stick my neck on the line and make a similar statement that the same is true for telephony applications. And there are surly others I haven't thought through yet, all of which will be "crucial" to the long term success of Mandrake as a desktop. But how can they all be "the one crucial app" you ask. Well, they're not all the "single" crucial application (but I think the browser is probably most important user application). The crucial application is the whole system. If we think about an automobile for a minute I'll explain. In an automobile the user expects to be able to use the "entire" package upon delivery. But no individual piece of the package is suitable to the drivers purpose, only the entire package. No automobile salesperson would think of trying to get me to settle for only an engine or only a transmission or only tires. None of those individual components is sufficient to meet my transportation needs. Likewise, no salesperson is going to try to convince me to accept a vehicle without an engine or without a transmission or without tires. Each of those components is necessary for the package to function as intended. These are the analogous parts for the browser and email client. Like it or not, most of the millions of PCs which will be sold this holiday season are for people to surf the net and exchange email. Neither is sufficient; both are necessary. Period. That's life. Get over it. Now, lets go back to the automobile. As I'm standing on the lot looking at the various items for sale, I notice that some of them have cute little map lights and rear window defrosters. I decide I like those touches, and I'm swayed by emotion rather than logic. The truth is I almost never need the cute little map light and the rear window defroster, but I buy then anyway. (OK they're crucial for some drivers, but not most.) The call management functions of a WinModem will be available to about 90% of those PCs sold this year, and almost nobody will ever use them. I've personally bought 5-6 computers/modems with all that stuff in the past few years and never turned any of it on. But I would guess that 10% of the people who buy the stuff try to use the call management functions, and perhaps 5% of the people who try it actually continue to use it. So, in the long run, lets assume that 0.5% of the users actually find the call management function useful, and everybody else abandons it. So, do we say, "Well, nobody uses it in the long run, so we'll leave it out." Or do we acknowledge that, "Despite that fact almost nobody is going to use this, it's a major selling point on the front end. So we need it, or we'll be shut out." Now, let's finally consider one more totally unnecessary option available on modern automobiles. Back in the 1920's Cadillac developed an "electric starter" for their vehicles. At that time it was an extreme luxury. These days, however, you cannot buy a production automobile without an electric starter. And if we started the "Mandrake Automobile Company" making cars without electric starters we'd go out of business fast. Even if we made astonishingly beautiful vehicles with map lights and rear window defrosters, ordinary people will still flock to the "inferior competitors" who have those convenient electric starters instead of a crank. Well, the electric starter is the installer routines. And, while it's true that Mandrake may be a far technically superior and elegant choice to many of the other Linux distributions, and to that "other" OS, it's a bitch for Grandpa to get set up compared to taking an HP Brio with Win98 preinstalled out of the box from Wal-Mart. If anyone wants to help with that aspect, I'd suggest that it's probably the most crucial hurdle to overcome. (There is a group named SEUL - Simple End User Linux, www.seul.org, but I don't much about them.) So, I've ranted enough. More OT comments? MB
Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem
Are you also running Windows on this machine? What COM port is Windows using for the modem? (Even if you don't run Windows, try the following four options first) In KPPP, setup the modem according to the following: COM1 = /dev/ttyS0 COM2 = /dev/ttyS1 COM3 = /dev/ttyS2 COM4 = /dev/ttyS3 Next, run the "query modem" option from within KPPP and see if KPPP is able to talk to your modem using an of the four devices listed above. If KPPP is able to query your modem, then go ahead and dialing your ISP with KPPP. Let us know if this worked and also wheather you use any console applications that make use of the modem. For the sound, run the following from the command line (login as root): sndconfig From: Miranda Heinz-AHM008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'newbie'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] modem configuration problem Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:44:58 -0500 Hi folks, My computer has all the peripheral incorporated in the mainboard ( I mean the video system, modem, and sound system). The problem is that I can't configure either the modem or the sound system. I tried using the kppp but it didn't work. Does anybody know how to deal with that ? Heinz Miranda V. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [[newbie] modem configuration problem]
IMHO Integrated services like sound, video, etc are usually flakey/inferior quality/or modified by the M/B manuf. Disable them in the BIOS and buy REAL cards. Jaguar Miranda Heinz-AHM008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, My computer has all the peripheral incorporated in the mainboard ( I mean the video system, modem, and sound system). The problem is that I can't configure either the modem or the sound system. I tried using the kppp but it didn't work. Does anybody know how to deal with that ? Heinz Miranda V. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem
hi there, i have the exact same problem with modem installation. I try the kppp, and when i query, it report that the modem is busy. I try all com ports liao, but in vain. I have no problem connecting my modem over the net using window 98. Any comments? Is there anything i have to set b4, the linux can check fo my modem ? Modem : External Prolink 56K V90bis Linux : Mandrake 6.0 software used : kppp Are you also running Windows on this machine? What COM port is Windows using for the modem? (Even if you don't run Windows, try the following four options first) In KPPP, setup the modem according to the following: COM1 = /dev/ttyS0 COM2 = /dev/ttyS1 COM3 = /dev/ttyS2 COM4 = /dev/ttyS3 Next, run the "query modem" option from within KPPP and see if KPPP is able to talk to your modem using an of the four devices listed above. If KPPP is able to query your modem, then go ahead and dialing your ISP with KPPP.
Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem
are you sure that you don't have a winModem? I got that same message and had to take the modem out and look at it and it was a winModem. I am not sure if it that is your problem or not but you should start there and rule that out first coin wrote: hi there, i have the exact same problem with modem installation. I try the kppp, and when i query, it report that the modem is busy. I try all com ports liao, but in vain. I have no problem connecting my modem over the net using window 98. Any comments? Is there anything i have to set b4, the linux can check fo my modem ? Modem : External Prolink 56K V90bis Linux : Mandrake 6.0 software used : kppp Are you also running Windows on this machine? What COM port is Windows using for the modem? (Even if you don't run Windows, try the following four options first) In KPPP, setup the modem according to the following: COM1 = /dev/ttyS0 COM2 = /dev/ttyS1 COM3 = /dev/ttyS2 COM4 = /dev/ttyS3 Next, run the "query modem" option from within KPPP and see if KPPP is able to talk to your modem using an of the four devices listed above. If KPPP is able to query your modem, then go ahead and dialing your ISP with KPPP.
RE: Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem
i believe, and this just might be me... but i don't think that you can use winmodems with linux hence the name winmodem i think they will only run with windows i know they won't run under dos anyone know if this is true? ben I Got My Free E-mail Account, Get Yours! - http://www.AntiOnline.com AntiOnline - The Internet's Information Security Super Center!
Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem
ben bradley wrote: i believe, and this just might be me... but i don't think that you can use winmodems with linux hence the name winmodem i think they will only run with windows i know they won't run under dos anyone know if this is true? Absolutely true. Of course, some company had to go and break that rule... That's right, there are now LinModems as well. Do yourself a favor and avoid them. There are better things for a CPU to be doing than the work of a $.50 part on a modem. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] modem configuration problem
Hi folks, My computer has all the peripheral incorporated in the mainboard ( I mean the video system, modem, and sound system). The problem is that I can't configure either the modem or the sound system. I tried using the kppp but it didn't work. Does anybody know how to deal with that ? Heinz Miranda V.
[newbie] modem configuration
How do i configure ppp in console using ppp HOW-TO? Cuz in kppp, my modem is always shown as busy and nothing is trying to access the modem (checked with ps). thanx
Re: [newbie] modem configuration
Hy Lei Tie, When I had the same problem, I found out I had set the modem to the wrong serial port. If you want to follow the PPP HOWTO, you need scripts, ppp-on, ppp-off, and ppp-on-dialer, that are in /usr/docs/ppp-2.3.7/scripts. I moved them to /etc/ppp and filled out ppp-on with info pertaining to my situation. Also, fill out pap-secrets, also in /etc/ppp. Eventually, I will get around to using the kppp dialer, but right now I am too lazy. adios, Steve W --- Lei Tie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do i configure ppp in console using ppp HOW-TO? Cuz in kppp, my modem is always shown as busy and nothing is trying to access the modem (checked with ps). thanx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] modem configuration
I had the same problem and it turned out that I have a win-modem installed. Linux does not currently support win-modems. Dave -Original Message- From: Lei Tie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 3:42 AM Subject: [newbie] modem configuration How do i configure ppp in console using ppp HOW-TO? Cuz in kppp, my modem is always shown as busy and nothing is trying to access the modem (checked with ps). thanx
