Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-19 Thread anton

Anne:
You raise a good point. Back when I lived in Dilbert's world, I learned that 
even moving documents from one installation of MS Office to another -- even 
within the same version -- is not as simple as the MS advertisements might 
lead you to believe. We would get templates from A Higher Level that required 
some fudging so that they would print in the proscribed format. The usual 
culprit was that the originator had either diddled his printer settings, or 
was using a printer that had capabilities that were not available to us.

It was worse, of course, when the template was created using a newer version 
of Word/Excel/Whatever than we had, since going from new --> old --> new is 
never bullet proof.
Yip that's right, I have had big differences between word 97-2000-xp. 
not worth the bytes its written on.;-)
cheers
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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-18 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 18 March 2004 08:23 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
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> On Thursday 18 March 2004 13:15, Frank Bax wrote:
> > I have this problem with OOo 1.1 docs going from one Win98 system
> > to another - page breaks are not in the same place.  In our case
> > the original creator of doc had document fit on one page, on other
> > machines, the might be a blank second page, or one or two lines of
> > text on second page.
>
> I don't think it is confined to OOo - in fact I do wonder if it also
> happens with M$Office?  I have just had such a problem with Lotus
> WordPro files, long documents that need line numbering.  At first I
> thought that it was because my copy runs  under Win4Lin, but putting
> the files on another native Win98 machine had the same problem.
> Although the margins and fonts were set identically there was a small
> problem of line length which made the occasional line spill over.  It
> cost many hours of work, and I'm not satisfied that the results are
> safe.
>
> Which brings me to the question - just what could it be that changes?
> If it's really not the fault of OOo as such, what is it?  Is font
> rendering different on different machines?  It would certainly be
> useful to understand the cause of the problem.
>
> Anne

Anne:
You raise a good point. Back when I lived in Dilbert's world, I learned that 
even moving documents from one installation of MS Office to another -- even 
within the same version -- is not as simple as the MS advertisements might 
lead you to believe. We would get templates from A Higher Level that required 
some fudging so that they would print in the proscribed format. The usual 
culprit was that the originator had either diddled his printer settings, or 
was using a printer that had capabilities that were not available to us.

It was worse, of course, when the template was created using a newer version 
of Word/Excel/Whatever than we had, since going from new --> old --> new is 
never bullet proof.

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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-18 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:23:44 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Thursday 18 March 2004 13:15, Frank Bax wrote:
> >
> > I have this problem with OOo 1.1 docs going from one Win98
> > system to another - page breaks are not in the same place.  In
> > our case the original creator of doc had document fit on one
> > page, on other machines, the might be a blank second page, or
> > one or two lines of text on second page.
> 
> I don't think it is confined to OOo - in fact I do wonder if it
> also happens with M$Office?  I have just had such a problem with
> Lotus WordPro files, long documents that need line numbering.  At
> first I thought that it was because my copy runs  under Win4Lin,
> but putting the files on another native Win98 machine had the same
> problem.  Although the margins and fonts were set identically
> there was a small problem of line length which made the occasional
> line spill over.  It cost many hours of work, and I'm not
> satisfied that the results are safe.
> 
> Which brings me to the question - just what could it be that
> changes?  If it's really not the fault of OOo as such, what is it?
>  Is font 
> rendering different on different machines?  It would certainly be 
> useful to understand the cause of the problem.
> 
> Anne
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Docs leaving the office are no problem for us because we have to
.pdf them anyway, but any intraoffice exchange is a big pain.

Lee

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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-18 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 18 March 2004 13:15, Frank Bax wrote:
>
> I have this problem with OOo 1.1 docs going from one Win98 system
> to another - page breaks are not in the same place.  In our case
> the original creator of doc had document fit on one page, on other
> machines, the might be a blank second page, or one or two lines of
> text on second page.

I don't think it is confined to OOo - in fact I do wonder if it also 
happens with M$Office?  I have just had such a problem with Lotus 
WordPro files, long documents that need line numbering.  At first I 
thought that it was because my copy runs  under Win4Lin, but putting 
the files on another native Win98 machine had the same problem.  
Although the margins and fonts were set identically there was a small 
problem of line length which made the occasional line spill over.  It 
cost many hours of work, and I'm not satisfied that the results are 
safe.

Which brings me to the question - just what could it be that changes?  
If it's really not the fault of OOo as such, what is it?  Is font 
rendering different on different machines?  It would certainly be 
useful to understand the cause of the problem.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-18 Thread Frank Bax
At 08:45 AM 3/16/04, Lee Wiggers wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:39:47 +
Olivier Esser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> Please excuse me!. I am  subscribed to both French and English
> list and I have use the wrong address!
>
> My problem was that a same word document does not open exactly in
> the same way under openoffice 1.1 under linux and windows. This
> concerns essentialy the page breaks.
>
>
>
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > J'ai remarqué qu'un même document n'a pas exactement la même
> > mise en
>
> [...]
>
>
>
>
You're right.  I pointed it out to the oo list and never got a
response.  This was at least two versions ago.
Also it doesn't export the exact same .pdf in win and Linux.

I had to dual boot to get docs from my staff the way they were
written or look forward to miles of editing.
Super PITA.

Lee


I have this problem with OOo 1.1 docs going from one Win98 system to 
another - page breaks are not in the same place.  In our case the original 
creator of doc had document fit on one page, on other machines, the might 
be a blank second page, or one or two lines of text on second page. 


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RE: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-16 Thread Mark Kirschner
Bob Read asked:
Could it be that you are not using identical fonts in Win and Linux?

Olivier Esser wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> Please excuse me!. I am  subscribed to both French and English list and
> I have use the wrong address!
>
> My problem was that a same word document does not open exactly in the
> same way under openoffice 1.1 under linux and windows. This concerns
> essentialy the page breaks.


How about differences in the printer driver?  I know that WordPerfect (way
back when) was touchy about even the slightest difference in printer driver.

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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-16 Thread Bob Read
Could it be that you are not using identical fonts in Win and Linux?

Olivier Esser wrote:
Hello everybody,

Please excuse me!. I am  subscribed to both French and English list and 
I have use the wrong address!

My problem was that a same word document does not open exactly in the 
same way under openoffice 1.1 under linux and windows. This concerns 
essentialy the page breaks.
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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-16 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:39:47 +
Olivier Esser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
> 
> Please excuse me!. I am  subscribed to both French and English
> list and I have use the wrong address!
> 
> My problem was that a same word document does not open exactly in
> the same way under openoffice 1.1 under linux and windows. This
> concerns essentialy the page breaks.
> 
> 
> 
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> > J'ai remarqué qu'un même document n'a pas exactement la même
> > mise en
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
> 
> 
You're right.  I pointed it out to the oo list and never got a
response.  This was at least two versions ago.

Also it doesn't export the exact same .pdf in win and Linux.

I had to dual boot to get docs from my staff the way they were
written or look forward to miles of editing.

Super PITA.

Lee

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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-16 Thread Olivier Esser
Hello everybody,

Please excuse me!. I am  subscribed to both French and English list and 
I have use the wrong address!

My problem was that a same word document does not open exactly in the 
same way under openoffice 1.1 under linux and windows. This concerns 
essentialy the page breaks.



Bonjour,

J'ai remarqué qu'un même document n'a pas exactement la même mise en
[...]



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