Re: [newbie] re: newbie df
On Monday 28 Mar 2005 17:09, SnapafunFrank wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Warnings well heeded. I am almost too scared to do anything in Mandrake now - no just kidding. [EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# fdisk /dev/hda The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4865. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Please understand my notes to your table here. Is this what you were after? Strictly your call here. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [ Franks approx partition sizes ] /dev/hda1 * 1 236418988798+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [19gig ] /dev/hda2 2423486519623397+ 5 Extended [20gig ] /dev/hda524233186 6136798+ 83 Linux [6gig] ~ [ This is your root partition ] /dev/hda64808 4854 377496 83 Linux [350MB ] /dev/hda748554865 88326 82 Linux swap [82MB ] /dev/hda831873326 1124518+ 82 Linux swap [1.1gig ] /dev/hda933274807 11896101 83 Linux [12gig - wow, wish I could afford this much] ~ [ This is your /home partition ] Partition table entries are not in disk order I can breathe now I am out of fdisk! regards Rosemary OK Rosemary, I need to study this a little but for now see what I see. You have a 40gig hard drive: You have 7 ( note ~ seven ) partitions: You have only 1 primary partition ~ you ought to have 3 but not essential: more about this later. You have only 1 ( one ) logic partition ~ you are allowed up to 16 last I heard: You therefore have 1 ( all you are allowed I believe ) extended partition ~ it is within this partition that you have your logic partitions: You have 2 swap partitions ~ no idea why you have two when one is enough especially when one of them appears huge. ( Don't mind me rambling on here ~ I'm working out loud.) Generally the rules here are: No more than 4 primary partitions with only one of them being made an extended partition in which you can have up to 16 logic ( LBA ) partitions. You can have as many swap partitions as you like though usually one is enough. Partition numbering is: primary 1 ~ 4 ( includes the extended partition ) With LBA partitions numbering 5 ~ say 16 The only partitions you have correct here are: /dev/hda1 * [ Your WinXP partition and the * means it is bootable ] /dev/hda1 [ One of your swap partitions and I say this is correct because it appears to be of the correct size ~ Usually no more than 1.5 times your RAM size if it is under 512MB ] Now lets take your df printf: [ printf is syntax for echo or in other words ~ what you see returned to the screen when you issue a command seeking info. ] FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 5.8G 1.7G 3.9G 30% /[ My rough math for the above table isn't to far off here afterall.] /dev/hda9 12G 170M 12G 2% /home [ You must work out what you really will be using here because this is far to big at present ~ only 170MB of 12000MB used so far.] SO. Your WinXP partition does not get mounted when you boot up ~ you may prefer this but fstab has it entered. Your hda6 partition doesn't get mounted so we need to discover which directory this relates to. [ See below ] Your hda8, in my opinion is just wasted space at present. Please try this: Go KConfigure Your DesktopPartitions and tell me what you see there. If there is more there than /dev/hda5 and /dev/hda9, ( should at least be /dev/hda7 and /dev/hda8 ), then please make a note of what partitions are there AND what there sizes are, ( Usually in megabytes ~ [ MB ] ), as this will save having to work out partition sizes using the number of blocks reported by the fdisk command. { Went back and did that anyway but am still curious ] Another thing to do is to mount that /dev/hda6 partition to find out what it is. So do as su: # mkdir /mnt/hda6 # mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/hda6 [ If this gives you errors then stop here and let me know what those errors are. ] # cd /mnt/hda6 # ls Look at any directories listed here ( other than lost found ) and tell me what they are please. Not trying to crowd you so will stop here and await your replies. Okay - first up: during the install, I selected the partitions that Mandrake preselected - which is what I was advised
Re: [newbie] re: newbie df
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Monday 28 Mar 2005 17:09, SnapafunFrank wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Warnings well heeded. I am almost too scared to do anything in Mandrake now - no just kidding. [EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# fdisk /dev/hda The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4865. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Please understand my notes to your table here. Is this what you were after? Strictly your call here. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [ Franks approx partition sizes ] /dev/hda1 * 1 236418988798+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [19gig ] /dev/hda2 2423486519623397+ 5 Extended [20gig ] /dev/hda524233186 6136798+ 83 Linux [6gig] ~ [ This is your root partition ] /dev/hda64808 4854 377496 83 Linux [350MB ] /dev/hda748554865 88326 82 Linux swap [82MB ] /dev/hda831873326 1124518+ 82 Linux swap [1.1gig ] /dev/hda933274807 11896101 83 Linux [12gig - wow, wish I could afford this much] ~ [ This is your /home partition ] Partition table entries are not in disk order I can breathe now I am out of fdisk! regards Rosemary OK Rosemary, I need to study this a little but for now see what I see. You have a 40gig hard drive: You have 7 ( note ~ seven ) partitions: You have only 1 primary partition ~ you ought to have 3 but not essential: more about this later. You have only 1 ( one ) logic partition ~ you are allowed up to 16 last I heard: You therefore have 1 ( all you are allowed I believe ) extended partition ~ it is within this partition that you have your logic partitions: You have 2 swap partitions ~ no idea why you have two when one is enough especially when one of them appears huge. ( Don't mind me rambling on here ~ I'm working out loud.) Generally the rules here are: No more than 4 primary partitions with only one of them being made an extended partition in which you can have up to 16 logic ( LBA ) partitions. You can have as many swap partitions as you like though usually one is enough. Partition numbering is: primary 1 ~ 4 ( includes the extended partition ) With LBA partitions numbering 5 ~ say 16 The only partitions you have correct here are: /dev/hda1 * [ Your WinXP partition and the * means it is bootable ] /dev/hda1 [ One of your swap partitions and I say this is correct because it appears to be of the correct size ~ Usually no more than 1.5 times your RAM size if it is under 512MB ] Now lets take your df printf: [ printf is syntax for echo or in other words ~ what you see returned to the screen when you issue a command seeking info. ] FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 5.8G 1.7G 3.9G 30% /[ My rough math for the above table isn't to far off here afterall.] /dev/hda9 12G 170M 12G 2% /home [ You must work out what you really will be using here because this is far to big at present ~ only 170MB of 12000MB used so far.] SO. Your WinXP partition does not get mounted when you boot up ~ you may prefer this but fstab has it entered. Your hda6 partition doesn't get mounted so we need to discover which directory this relates to. [ See below ] Your hda8, in my opinion is just wasted space at present. Please try this: Go KConfigure Your DesktopPartitions and tell me what you see there. If there is more there than /dev/hda5 and /dev/hda9, ( should at least be /dev/hda7 and /dev/hda8 ), then please make a note of what partitions are there AND what there sizes are, ( Usually in megabytes ~ [ MB ] ), as this will save having to work out partition sizes using the number of blocks reported by the fdisk command. { Went back and did that anyway but am still curious ] Another thing to do is to mount that /dev/hda6 partition to find out what it is. So do as su: # mkdir /mnt/hda6 # mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/hda6 [ If this gives you errors then stop here and let me know what those errors are. ] # cd /mnt/hda6 # ls Look at any directories listed here ( other than lost found ) and tell me what they are please. Not trying to crowd you so will stop here and await your replies. Okay - first up: during the install, I selected the partitions that Mandrake preselected - which is what I was advised to do, probably at linuxquestions or another forum, or possibly on the installation process itself.
Re: [newbie] re: newbie df
SnapafunFrank wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Warnings well heeded. I am almost too scared to do anything in Mandrake now - no just kidding. [EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# fdisk /dev/hda The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4865. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Please understand my notes to your table here. Is this what you were after? Strictly your call here. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [ Franks approx partition sizes ] /dev/hda1 * 1236418988798+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [19gig ] /dev/hda22423486519623397+ 5 Extended [20gig ] /dev/hda524233186 6136798+ 83 Linux[6gig] ~ [ This is your root partition ] /dev/hda648084854 377496 83 Linux [350MB ] /dev/hda748554865 88326 82 Linux swap [82MB ] /dev/hda831873326 1124518+ 82 Linux swap [1.1gig ] /dev/hda93327480711896101 83 Linux [12gig - wow, wish I could afford this much] ~ [ This is your /home partition ] Partition table entries are not in disk order I can breathe now I am out of fdisk! regards Rosemary OK Rosemary, I need to study this a little but for now see what I see. You have a 40gig hard drive: You have 7 ( note ~ seven ) partitions: You have only 1 primary partition ~ you ought to have 3 but not essential: more about this later. Not realy. You can have up to 4, but if you use an extended partition, it uses 1 primary partition slot. You have only 1 ( one ) logic partition ~ you are allowed up to 16 last I heard: Each partition in the extended partition is a logical partition. This system has 5 logical partitions in the extended partition. You therefore have 1 ( all you are allowed I believe ) extended partition ~ it is within this partition that you have your logic partitions: You have 2 swap partitions ~ no idea why you have two when one is enough especially when one of them appears huge. About the only reasion for the second swap partition would be if using Software Suspend. You need a swap partition a bit larger then your physical memory to hold the currend system state when you suspend to disk. But I don't think too many people are using it yet. But 1.1G does look a bit large. On the other hand, the 82MB swap partition is realy too small to be usefull... Generally the rules here are: No more than 4 primary partitions with only one of them being made an extended partition in which you can have up to 16 logic partitions. You can have as many swap partitions as you like though usually one is enough. Partition numbering is: primary 1 ~ 4 ( includes the extended partition ) With LBA partitions numbering 5 ~ say 16 Logical partitions, not LBA. LBA is a way of accessing a hard drive, not a partition type. (Logical Block Allocation if I remember right...) The only partitions you have correct here are: /dev/hda1 * [ Your WinXP partition and the * means it is bootable ] /dev/hda1 [ One of your swap partitions and I say this is correct because it appears to be of the correct size ~ Usually no more than 1.5 times your RAM size if it is under 512MB ] I think you mean dha8 here, and not hda1. Now lets take your df printf: [ printf is syntax for echo or in other words ~ what you see returned to the screen when you issue a command seeking info. ] FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 5.8G 1.7G 3.9G 30% /[ My rough math for the above table isn't to far off here afterall.] /dev/hda9 12G 170M 12G 2% /home [ You must work out what you really will be using here because this is far to big at present ~ only 170MB of 12000MB used so far.] SO. Your WinXP partition does not get mounted when you boot up ~ you may prefer this but fstab has it entered. Your hda6 partition doesn't get mounted so we need to discover which directory this relates to. [ See below ] This partition was being mounted on /mnt before we disabled it. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] re: newbie df
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Okay - first up: during the install, I selected the partitions that Mandrake preselected - which is what I was advised to do, probably at linuxquestions or another forum, or possibly on the installation process itself. These were: hda5 (5.8Gb, /, ext) hda6 (368Mb, /mnt, ext3) hda9 (11Gb, /home, ext 3) If this was incorrect, then so be it - I was simply doing what I thought I had been advised to do. There was also swap there somewhere. I seriously wonder if all this questioning is worth it - your time, and my limited knowledge. I simply want a system that works. If I have made a mistake, okay, then fix it if can be fixed simply, or reinstall. It seems the fix is not simple, and I believe it is time to reinstall. I am sorry if this disappoints you ... and I am sorry if I have wasted your time. I acknowledge that I probably stuffed up when I attempted to install the mouse, however, there were always problems with stalling, even at the first install attempt. I see on other forums that Mandrake is reputed to have problems with USB devices. That may be disputed here - I don't know. I do know that I need to have a system that works, and if i don't fully understand why it didn't, then I can live with that. I hope you can see my point. I read recently - on the local LUG mailing list I think - that some prefer to wrestle with linux, than actually use their system I *don't* fall into that category. I really am deeply appreciative of your efforts to help, and of other listers - but am beginning to wonder if it is going anywhere. Regards Rosemary Rosemary, While I would love to take this through to the end, in this case, you are probably right about a re-install being the best fix. If I were sitting in front of your box, I could probably get everything sorted out in less time then it would take to install. But doing it over the list, it will probably take at least a few days. I would enjoy the chalange, but it is probably not in your best interest. If you had more Linux experence, and wanted to learn system repair, that would be different. Now, when you re-install, you will want to save your /home partition, (hda9) and probably your extra data partition (hda6). One thing I would do different - you will want hda6 to mount on /data or /mnt/data. You do NOT want it on /mnt. If you want, you can just tell the installer to leave it alone, and we can help you create a mount point for it later. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] re: newbie df
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 04:49, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: SnapafunFrank wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Warnings well heeded. I am almost too scared to do anything in Mandrake now - no just kidding. [EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# fdisk /dev/hda The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4865. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Please understand my notes to your table here. Is this what you were after? Strictly your call here. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [ Franks approx partition sizes ] /dev/hda1 * 1236418988798+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [19gig ] /dev/hda22423486519623397+ 5 Extended [20gig ] /dev/hda524233186 6136798+ 83 Linux[6gig] ~ [ This is your root partition ] /dev/hda648084854 377496 83 Linux [350MB ] /dev/hda748554865 88326 82 Linux swap [82MB ] /dev/hda831873326 1124518+ 82 Linux swap [1.1gig ] /dev/hda93327480711896101 83 Linux [12gig - wow, wish I could afford this much] ~ [ This is your /home partition ] Partition table entries are not in disk order I can breathe now I am out of fdisk! regards Rosemary OK Rosemary, I need to study this a little but for now see what I see. You have a 40gig hard drive: You have 7 ( note ~ seven ) partitions: You have only 1 primary partition ~ you ought to have 3 but not essential: more about this later. Not realy. You can have up to 4, but if you use an extended partition, it uses 1 primary partition slot. You have only 1 ( one ) logic partition ~ you are allowed up to 16 last I heard: Each partition in the extended partition is a logical partition. This system has 5 logical partitions in the extended partition. You therefore have 1 ( all you are allowed I believe ) extended partition ~ it is within this partition that you have your logic partitions: You have 2 swap partitions ~ no idea why you have two when one is enough especially when one of them appears huge. About the only reasion for the second swap partition would be if using Software Suspend. You need a swap partition a bit larger then your physical memory to hold the currend system state when you suspend to disk. But I don't think too many people are using it yet. But 1.1G does look a bit large. On the other hand, the 82MB swap partition is realy too small to be usefull... I wonder if this happened at the attempt to get the mouse going ... Generally the rules here are: No more than 4 primary partitions with only one of them being made an extended partition in which you can have up to 16 logic partitions. You can have as many swap partitions as you like though usually one is enough. Partition numbering is: primary 1 ~ 4 ( includes the extended partition ) With LBA partitions numbering 5 ~ say 16 Logical partitions, not LBA. LBA is a way of accessing a hard drive, not a partition type. (Logical Block Allocation if I remember right...) The only partitions you have correct here are: /dev/hda1 * [ Your WinXP partition and the * means it is bootable ] /dev/hda1 [ One of your swap partitions and I say this is correct because it appears to be of the correct size ~ Usually no more than 1.5 times your RAM size if it is under 512MB ] I think you mean dha8 here, and not hda1. Now lets take your df printf: [ printf is syntax for echo or in other words ~ what you see returned to the screen when you issue a command seeking info. ] FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 5.8G 1.7G 3.9G 30% /[ My rough math for the above table isn't to far off here afterall.] /dev/hda9 12G 170M 12G 2% /home [ You must work out what you really will be using here because this is far to big at present ~ only 170MB of 12000MB used so far.] SO. Your WinXP partition does not get mounted when you boot up ~ you may prefer this but fstab has it entered. Your hda6 partition doesn't get mounted so we need to discover which directory this relates to. [ See below ] This partition was being mounted on /mnt before we disabled it. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from
[newbie] re: newbie df
Warnings well heeded. I am almost too scared to do anything in Mandrake now - no just kidding. [EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# fdisk /dev/hda The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4865. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1236418988798+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda22423486519623397+ 5 Extended /dev/hda524233186 6136798+ 83 Linux /dev/hda648084854 377496 83 Linux /dev/hda748554865 88326 82 Linux swap /dev/hda831873326 1124518+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda93327480711896101 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order I can breathe now I am out of fdisk! regards Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] re: newbie df
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Warnings well heeded. I am almost too scared to do anything in Mandrake now - no just kidding. [EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# fdisk /dev/hda The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4865. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Please understand my notes to your table here. Is this what you were after? Strictly your call here. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [ Franks approx partition sizes ] /dev/hda1 * 1236418988798+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [19gig ] /dev/hda22423486519623397+ 5 Extended [20gig ] /dev/hda524233186 6136798+ 83 Linux [6gig] ~ [ This is your root partition ] /dev/hda648084854 377496 83 Linux [350MB ] /dev/hda748554865 88326 82 Linux swap [82MB ] /dev/hda831873326 1124518+ 82 Linux swap [1.1gig ] /dev/hda93327480711896101 83 Linux [12gig - wow, wish I could afford this much] ~ [ This is your /home partition ] Partition table entries are not in disk order I can breathe now I am out of fdisk! regards Rosemary OK Rosemary, I need to study this a little but for now see what I see. You have a 40gig hard drive: You have 7 ( note ~ seven ) partitions: You have only 1 primary partition ~ you ought to have 3 but not essential: more about this later. You have only 1 ( one ) logic partition ~ you are allowed up to 16 last I heard: You therefore have 1 ( all you are allowed I believe ) extended partition ~ it is within this partition that you have your logic partitions: You have 2 swap partitions ~ no idea why you have two when one is enough especially when one of them appears huge. ( Don't mind me rambling on here ~ I'm working out loud.) Generally the rules here are: No more than 4 primary partitions with only one of them being made an extended partition in which you can have up to 16 logic ( LBA ) partitions. You can have as many swap partitions as you like though usually one is enough. Partition numbering is: primary 1 ~ 4 ( includes the extended partition ) With LBA partitions numbering 5 ~ say 16 The only partitions you have correct here are: /dev/hda1 * [ Your WinXP partition and the * means it is bootable ] /dev/hda1 [ One of your swap partitions and I say this is correct because it appears to be of the correct size ~ Usually no more than 1.5 times your RAM size if it is under 512MB ] Now lets take your df printf: [ printf is syntax for echo or in other words ~ what you see returned to the screen when you issue a command seeking info. ] FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 5.8G 1.7G 3.9G 30% /[ My rough math for the above table isn't to far off here afterall.] /dev/hda9 12G 170M 12G 2% /home [ You must work out what you really will be using here because this is far to big at present ~ only 170MB of 12000MB used so far.] SO. Your WinXP partition does not get mounted when you boot up ~ you may prefer this but fstab has it entered. Your hda6 partition doesn't get mounted so we need to discover which directory this relates to. [ See below ] Your hda8, in my opinion is just wasted space at present. Please try this: Go KConfigure Your DesktopPartitions and tell me what you see there. If there is more there than /dev/hda5 and /dev/hda9, ( should at least be /dev/hda7 and /dev/hda8 ), then please make a note of what partitions are there AND what there sizes are, ( Usually in megabytes ~ [ MB ] ), as this will save having to work out partition sizes using the number of blocks reported by the fdisk command. { Went back and did that anyway but am still curious ] Another thing to do is to mount that /dev/hda6 partition to find out what it is. So do as su: # mkdir /mnt/hda6 # mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/hda6 [ If this gives you errors then stop here and let me know what those errors are. ] # cd /mnt/hda6 # ls Look at any directories listed here ( other than lost found ) and tell me what they are please. Not trying to crowd you so will stop here and await your replies. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from