[newbie] Strange things are afoot.
I've been seeing some strange activity going when trying to install Mandrake 10.0 or 10.1CE on a few older systems and I was wondering if anyone here had seen the same thing? Both systems are running AMD CPU's, and had previously had Mandrake 9.2 on them. When attempting to start an install from 10.0 or 10.1CE, the systems both boot from the CD, but both of them either freeze before the first install panel pops up or fail for no apparent reason after pressing Enter, or manually setting 'linux noapic nolapic' from the 'F1' boot options console. The console screen is replaced by very dark blue screen (as if the installer couldn't load the first graphics panel where you would select the keyboard layout. In some cases, I've had partial success in getting to the International screen by adjusting P'n'P or APM options in the BIOS of either system, but once a keyboard layout is selected, the system shows me that same dark blue screen. I've tried both systems with different AGP cards and I've run full memtests on both. I've updated the BIOS on both and still no joy. One is an Asus board (Slot A - K7 Athlon 650Mhz. First generation Athlon), while the other is an ECS - K7VMM board (Socket A - 750Mhz. Duron). So far, I've been trying AGP cards and I'm currently thinking of slapping in a PCI card to see what happens. On the ECS board, a text mode install shows me the kernel booting, but it freezes at a line which says; 'ESR value before enabling vector: 0002' While the Asus board freezes when it's ; 'Calibrating delay loop' and doesn't even finish the line by displaying the BOGOMips result. Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 17:17, Lanman wrote: Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. Have you tried booting from CD2? There was a suggestion that CD1 and CD2 had different boot setups, and the CD2 was better suited to older hardware. I don't know the truth of this, but. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
On Saturday 16 October 2004 09:17 am, Lanman wrote: I've been seeing some strange activity going when trying to install Mandrake 10.0 or 10.1CE on a few older systems and I was wondering if anyone here had seen the same thing? Both systems are running AMD CPU's, and had previously had Mandrake 9.2 on them. When attempting to start an install from 10.0 or 10.1CE, the systems both boot from the CD, but both of them either freeze before the first install panel pops up or fail for no apparent reason after pressing Enter, or manually setting 'linux noapic nolapic' from the 'F1' boot options console. The console screen is replaced by very dark blue screen (as if the installer couldn't load the first graphics panel where you would select the keyboard layout. In some cases, I've had partial success in getting to the International screen by adjusting P'n'P or APM options in the BIOS of either system, but once a keyboard layout is selected, the system shows me that same dark blue screen. I've tried both systems with different AGP cards and I've run full memtests on both. I've updated the BIOS on both and still no joy. One is an Asus board (Slot A - K7 Athlon 650Mhz. First generation Athlon), while the other is an ECS - K7VMM board (Socket A - 750Mhz. Duron). So far, I've been trying AGP cards and I'm currently thinking of slapping in a PCI card to see what happens. On the ECS board, a text mode install shows me the kernel booting, but it freezes at a line which says; 'ESR value before enabling vector: 0002' While the Asus board freezes when it's ; 'Calibrating delay loop' and doesn't even finish the line by displaying the BOGOMips result. Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. TIA I had this problem I don't know if it's a linux or a hardware issue but giving the disk a thorough scrubbing (yes I know full install only)I used the ultimate Boot CDROM to do this then the installation went slick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 17:17, Lanman wrote: Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. Have you tried booting from CD2? There was a suggestion that CD1 and CD2 had different boot setups, and the CD2 was better suited to older hardware. I don't know the truth of this, but. Anne Yup! Each time I've made any single change, I've tried both CD's 1 2, and I've tried a text version and using the 'noapic nolapic' options from a text console. Same problem. I could understand it if this was related to one system, but two systems with different motherboards and relatively different hardware? This is definitely strange. I've even tried Mandrake 9.2 the same way as the other versions and I get the same problems or results. Go Figure! The strange thing is that one of these systems was working 2 hours ago - running and working (the ECS-based 650 Duron system), but when we rebooted it, Lilo couldn't find the kernels in the boot directory. I've been unable to rescue Lilo since the system fails or freezes before the rescue system can finish booting and/or launching due to a kernel panic or freeze. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 12:17, Lanman wrote: I've been seeing some strange activity going when trying to install Mandrake 10.0 or 10.1CE on a few older systems and I was wondering if anyone here had seen the same thing? Both systems are running AMD CPU's, and had previously had Mandrake 9.2 on them. When attempting to start an install from 10.0 or 10.1CE, the systems both boot from the CD, but both of them either freeze before the first install panel pops up or fail for no apparent reason after pressing Enter, or manually setting 'linux noapic nolapic' from the 'F1' boot options console. The console screen is replaced by very dark blue screen (as if the installer couldn't load the first graphics panel where you would select the keyboard layout. In some cases, I've had partial success in getting to the International screen by adjusting P'n'P or APM options in the BIOS of either system, but once a keyboard layout is selected, the system shows me that same dark blue screen. I've had almost the exact same experience with mdk10 on an FIC AU13 system board with a Crush 18G Nforce2 chipset. Juggling the acpi options helped but still wouldn't allow installation. It seemed related to SATA on the mobo. 9.2 went in, 10 official did not. I've tried both systems with different AGP cards and I've run full memtests on both. I've updated the BIOS on both and still no joy. If you have Nforce you are going down a dead end road; it's a mobo related problem. (if not it's something else, but still probably mobo related) 9.2 will install on Nforce mobos, 10 generally will not. I hope that 10.1 has not been rushed out the door too fast and that it will install to this crop of Nforce boards here, but I have not had time to do a test install and Warly has already submitted the first official 10.1 cds for installation testing. One is an Asus board (Slot A - K7 Athlon 650Mhz. First generation Athlon), while the other is an ECS - K7VMM board (Socket A - 750Mhz. Duron). So far, I've been trying AGP cards and I'm currently thinking of slapping in a PCI card to see what happens. On the ECS board, a text mode install shows me the kernel booting, but it freezes at a line which says; 'ESR value before enabling vector: 0002' While the Asus board freezes when it's ; 'Calibrating delay loop' and doesn't even finish the line by displaying the BOGOMips result. Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. H...you don't have Nforce but the symptoms are looking very similar to what I was seeing. The BEST shot you have is to file a ***tload of bug reports on 10.1; right now. You have a slim window of opportunity and I'm not talking days, I'm talking hours; maybe 42 or 72 or a little more if you're lucky. In that case you may be able to get these problems corrected in another set of installation cd's for 10.1. Try itgood luck buddy... LX -- Trouble with sound? Dump Alsa with an upgrade to the best: get your free high quality OSS drivers at www.opensound.com Superior features, superior API, better support. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 12:17, Lanman wrote: I've been seeing some strange activity going when trying to install Mandrake 10.0 or 10.1CE on a few older systems and I was wondering if anyone here had seen the same thing? Both systems are running AMD CPU's, and had previously had Mandrake 9.2 on them. When attempting to start an install from 10.0 or 10.1CE, the systems both boot from the CD, but both of them either freeze before the first install panel pops up or fail for no apparent reason after pressing Enter, or manually setting 'linux noapic nolapic' from the 'F1' boot options console. The console screen is replaced by very dark blue screen (as if the installer couldn't load the first graphics panel where you would select the keyboard layout. In some cases, I've had partial success in getting to the International screen by adjusting P'n'P or APM options in the BIOS of either system, but once a keyboard layout is selected, the system shows me that same dark blue screen. I've had almost the exact same experience with mdk10 on an FIC AU13 system board with a Crush 18G Nforce2 chipset. Juggling the acpi options helped but still wouldn't allow installation. It seemed related to SATA on the mobo. 9.2 went in, 10 official did not. I've tried both systems with different AGP cards and I've run full memtests on both. I've updated the BIOS on both and still no joy. If you have Nforce you are going down a dead end road; it's a mobo related problem. (if not it's something else, but still probably mobo related) 9.2 will install on Nforce mobos, 10 generally will not. I hope that 10.1 has not been rushed out the door too fast and that it will install to this crop of Nforce boards here, but I have not had time to do a test install and Warly has already submitted the first official 10.1 cds for installation testing. One is an Asus board (Slot A - K7 Athlon 650Mhz. First generation Athlon), while the other is an ECS - K7VMM board (Socket A - 750Mhz. Duron). So far, I've been trying AGP cards and I'm currently thinking of slapping in a PCI card to see what happens. On the ECS board, a text mode install shows me the kernel booting, but it freezes at a line which says; 'ESR value before enabling vector: 0002' While the Asus board freezes when it's ; 'Calibrating delay loop' and doesn't even finish the line by displaying the BOGOMips result. Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. H...you don't have Nforce but the symptoms are looking very similar to what I was seeing. The BEST shot you have is to file a ***tload of bug reports on 10.1; right now. You have a slim window of opportunity and I'm not talking days, I'm talking hours; maybe 42 or 72 or a little more if you're lucky. In that case you may be able to get these problems corrected in another set of installation cd's for 10.1. Try itgood luck buddy... LX Thanks for the suggestions one and all. I'll get to work on it in an hour or so and let you know if I get it running or not. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
On Saturday 16 October 2004 12:33, Lanman wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 17:17, Lanman wrote: Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. Have you tried booting from CD2? There was a suggestion that CD1 and CD2 had different boot setups, and the CD2 was better suited to older hardware. I don't know the truth of this, but. Anne Yup! Each time I've made any single change, I've tried both CD's 1 2, and I've tried a text version and using the 'noapic nolapic' options from a text console. Same problem. I could understand it if this was related to one system, but two systems with different motherboards and relatively different hardware? This is definitely strange. I've even tried Mandrake 9.2 the same way as the other versions and I get the same problems or results. Go Figure! The strange thing is that one of these systems was working 2 hours ago - running and working (the ECS-based 650 Duron system), but when we rebooted it, Lilo couldn't find the kernels in the boot directory. I've been unable to rescue Lilo since the system fails or freezes before the rescue system can finish booting and/or launching due to a kernel panic or freeze. Hmmm onboard video? shared mem? linux mem=118M for a system with 128 memory installed adn 10 megs as 'shared video memory'? linux nofb, for a video card that does not support frame buffer? -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] strange things
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, you wrote: How do we get him to stop? Jeanette Well, we can mail-bomb Mindspring's technical guys until they get in touch with their client, or we can mail-bomb the person responsible for the "racertrac.com" domain or both. :-) John
Re: [newbie] strange things
hehehethat would work - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] strange things On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, you wrote: How do we get him to stop? Jeanette Well, we can mail-bomb Mindspring's technical guys until they get in touch with their client, or we can mail-bomb the person responsible for the "racertrac.com" domain or both. :-) John
Re: [newbie] strange things
Same thing here. I thought I was doing something wrong, so I just ignored it. Matt From: Jeanette Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] strange things Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:52:47 -0600 not sure whats going on but everytime I try to post to the mandrake list I get this weird not found email for someone on mindspring. anyone else know whats going on here? Only happens when I post to mandrake list? Jeanette message3.txt __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] strange things
I am getting this, too. Very strange, indeed. Wonder what's going on?? Mark @mindspring - Original Message - From: Jeanette Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 5:52 PM Subject: [newbie] strange things not sure whats going on but everytime I try to post to the mandrake list I get this weird not found email for someone on mindspring. anyone else know whats going on here? Only happens when I post to mandrake list? Jeanette
Re: [newbie] strange things
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, you wrote: %_not sure whats going on but everytime I try to post to the mandrake list I get this weird not found email for someone on mindspring. anyone else know whats going on here? Only happens when I post to mandrake list? Jeanette It's some idiot on Mindspring who either has a misconfigured mail server or some idiot who has subscribed to this list and then either moved from Mindspring or been kicked off. I favor the first explanation, as it has continued, despite the best efforts of Axalon and Chmouel. John
Re: [newbie] strange things
How long has it been going on? I have emailed Mindspring's support about it. Maybe they can fix it. Did you mean 'mail client' where you said 'mail server'? Or do you think that MS's servers are screwed? mark - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] strange things It's some idiot on Mindspring who either has a misconfigured mail server or some idiot who has subscribed to this list and then either moved from Mindspring or been kicked off. I favor the first explanation, as it has continued, despite the best efforts of Axalon and Chmouel. John
RE: [newbie] strange things
I've been getting it too. Only, not just for someone on Mindspring. I've been getting it for people on Yahoo, AOL, various other ISPs. But, like you, it's only on the Mandrake list. Rick Friedman Salant Corp. - MIS 800-472-8013 x75105 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeanette Russo wrote not sure whats going on but everytime I try to post to the mandrake list I get this weird not found email for someone on mindspring. anyone else know whats going on here? Only happens when I post to mandrake list? Jeanette
Re: [newbie] strange things
look at the addy it's sent from...someone is sending email from their linux box using sendmail setup incorrectly The original message was received at Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:52:26 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost - Original Message - From: Jeanette Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: [newbie] strange things not sure whats going on but everytime I try to post to the mandrake list I get this weird not found email for someone on mindspring. anyone else know whats going on here? Only happens when I post to mandrake list? Jeanette
Re: [newbie] strange things
How do we get him to stop? Jeanette - Original Message - From: "Mark Ramsey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] strange things look at the addy it's sent from...someone is sending email from their linux box using sendmail setup incorrectly The original message was received at Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:52:26 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost - Original Message - From: Jeanette Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: [newbie] strange things not sure whats going on but everytime I try to post to the mandrake list I get this weird not found email for someone on mindspring. anyone else know whats going on here? Only happens when I post to mandrake list? Jeanette
