Re: [newbie] the easy way?

2005-01-27 Thread Ian
On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 23:48, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 January 2005 23:10, Ian wrote:
  On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 22:48, Derek Jennings wrote:
   On Wednesday 26 January 2005 22:43, Ian wrote:
Since the list is convinced that Home is better if it is in a
separate partition, what is the best and easiest way to accomplish
this. At present, Home is in the same partition as the rest of the
distro (standard install). How do I ensure if I move the contents of
Home to a new partition that all links will change?
  
   The easy way is simply to define your new /home partition with Mandrake
   Control Centre.
  
   It will recognise that there are already files in /home on the old
   partition and will offer to copy them to the new partition for you.
 
  I take it, the part that allows me to specify where home is in
  System/Users and groups? I'd really hate to screw up what is an extremely
  stable setup
 
  :-) But Mandrake will move release new distros and I'd also hate to make
  : an
 
  install harder...or even worse, lose all the data accumulated

 No
 Users and Groups is where you define new users.
 MandrakeControlCentreMountPointsPartitions is where you define
 partitions.

 If you have empty space on your hard drive just click on the empty space
 and define a partition on it. Select the mount point to be /home.

 If you have no free space you may resize an existing partition, but it is
 not possible to resize a partition that is currently already mounted. The
 GUI allows you to unmount a partition, but you cannot unmount a partition
 currently in use.

 If you have just a single partition consuming the whole drive then it is
 not easy to alter it unless you boot from  a Mandrakemove Live CD, or
 Knoppix if you prefer. (MandrakeMove will have the more familiar tools)

 If you have valuable data, then make a backup first.

 derek
Many thanks, Derek. my /home is now a new partition, and all worked well.
although I did cheat and used partition magic to create it, then as above :-)
Now to wait for 10.2 official .. 
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[newbie] the easy way?

2005-01-26 Thread Ian
Since the list is convinced that Home is better if it is in a separate 
partition, what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. At present, 
Home is in the same partition as the rest of the distro (standard install).  
How do I ensure if I move the contents of Home to a new partition that all 
links will change?
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Re: [newbie] the easy way?

2005-01-26 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 22:43, Ian wrote:
 Since the list is convinced that Home is better if it is in a separate
 partition, what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. At present,
 Home is in the same partition as the rest of the distro (standard install).
 How do I ensure if I move the contents of Home to a new partition that all
 links will change?

The easy way is simply to define your new /home partition with Mandrake 
Control Centre.

It will recognise that there are already files in /home on the old partition 
and will offer to copy them to the new partition for you.

derek

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Re: [newbie] the easy way?

2005-01-26 Thread Ian
On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 22:48, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 January 2005 22:43, Ian wrote:
  Since the list is convinced that Home is better if it is in a separate
  partition, what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. At
  present, Home is in the same partition as the rest of the distro
  (standard install). How do I ensure if I move the contents of Home to a
  new partition that all links will change?

 The easy way is simply to define your new /home partition with Mandrake
 Control Centre.

 It will recognise that there are already files in /home on the old
 partition and will offer to copy them to the new partition for you.

I take it, the part that allows me to specify where home is in System/Users 
and groups? I'd really hate to screw up what is an extremely stable setup :-)
But Mandrake will move release new distros and I'd also hate to make an 
install harder...or even worse, lose all the data accumulated
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Re: [newbie] the easy way?

2005-01-26 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 23:10, Ian wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 22:48, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Wednesday 26 January 2005 22:43, Ian wrote:
   Since the list is convinced that Home is better if it is in a separate
   partition, what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. At
   present, Home is in the same partition as the rest of the distro
   (standard install). How do I ensure if I move the contents of Home to a
   new partition that all links will change?
 
  The easy way is simply to define your new /home partition with Mandrake
  Control Centre.
 
  It will recognise that there are already files in /home on the old
  partition and will offer to copy them to the new partition for you.

 I take it, the part that allows me to specify where home is in System/Users
 and groups? I'd really hate to screw up what is an extremely stable setup
 :-) But Mandrake will move release new distros and I'd also hate to make an
 install harder...or even worse, lose all the data accumulated

No
Users and Groups is where you define new users.
MandrakeControlCentreMountPointsPartitions is where you define partitions.

If you have empty space on your hard drive just click on the empty space and 
define a partition on it. Select the mount point to be /home. 

If you have no free space you may resize an existing partition, but it is not 
possible to resize a partition that is currently already mounted. The GUI 
allows you to unmount a partition, but you cannot unmount a partition 
currently in use.

If you have just a single partition consuming the whole drive then it is not 
easy to alter it unless you boot from  a Mandrakemove Live CD, or Knoppix if 
you prefer. (MandrakeMove will have the more familiar tools)

If you have valuable data, then make a backup first.

derek

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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) running on 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-28 Thread John Richard Smith

FemmeFatale wrote:

 At 08:45 PM 9/26/2002 +1200, you wrote:

 large surgical incision


  Point me or kick me in teh right direction pls!?
  ---
  Femme

 You should be only allowed to have one /boot. I am fairly certain LILO
 insists on it. Copy these files to a floppy:

 /boot/vmlinuzXXX
 /boot/initrdXXX
 /etc/lilo.conf

 Make sure the /boot/ files are the real thing and not pointers to the 
 real
 thing. Then wait one day to make sure i gave these instructions 
 correctly ;-0

 RESCUE your old system LILO setup (details given heaps of time on here).

 Boot to the old (good) install.

 Copy the vmlinuz and initrd into /boot.

 Back up lilo.conf. Copy the relevant stanza from the floppy lilo.conf 
 into
 the active one.

 Reboot and Bobs your uncle, (Bobs my brother, are you my niece or 
 daughter?)
 -- 
 Michael


 From what i've read here on the list and in books, you should have 2 
 boot partitions ... each one for a different installation.  I did ask 
 once about a single /boot partition for all my linux installs but I 
 was told that can be quite tricky.  I Know i tried it once, and i 
 ended up fuxoring my whole set of 2 installs in one day :P

 Not that I mind... It just means I have more to learn  More to do. 
 :)  Ty for your input Michael.  Should call ya Saint Michael just b/c 
 you're so sweet in taking time to answer ppls questions :)

 Sir Robin certainly believed me... hehe I knighted him a while ago ;p
 ---
 Femme


There's dual linux boot with a single /boot partition the simplest
way to do it. 
There is dual linux boot with NO /boot partition
at all.In this case, there are two boot directories one
in each base / of each OS, in which case the boot directory of
the second install is the dominent working one and the kernel and
initrd files from the first OS install are copied across to the
boot directory of the second OS.It's more complicated to set up but
works just as well.

The simplest way is to create a /boot PARTITION, and let drakX
do the rest.

As I recall you had a problem with yours because you had a file
system that was not ext2, and for some reason the installer would not let you have a 
kernel install in your /boot partition because of this none ext2 file system. If you 
had had an ext2 /boot partition I'm sure it would of gone well for you.

regards,

John


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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) running on 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-28 Thread FemmeFatale

At 10:17 PM 9/27/2002 -0300, you wrote:

   From what i've read here on the list and in books, you should have 2 boot
  partitions ... each one for a different installation.  I did ask once 
 about
  a single /boot partition for all my linux installs but I was told that can
  be quite tricky.  I Know i tried it once, and i ended up fuxoring my whole
  set of 2 installs in one day :P

ROFL!! ... sorry i don't mean to laugh at you Femme, that sounds
just like what i would be constantly doing with my computer if i were not
forced to keep it working for my parents to use... aaah the phun i would 
have..
OMG the PHUN !! ;oP~~


i make one post in the whole day, and all i can come up with is this
nonsense.. aghh enough 'stand-by mode' for my brain. i'm off.

Damian

hehe ya well it can be a total PITA sometimes... and lately I haven't had 
time to screw things up.  Im prepping for three jewellery shows that I 
attend as a vendor/merchant/jeweller (pick one hat or all).

And no offense taken luv
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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) runningon 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-27 Thread FemmeFatale

At 09:25 PM 9/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
FemmeFatale wrote:

  Point me or kick me in teh right direction pls!?
  ---
  Femme

Here is my Lilo.conf file attached to show you my multiboot setup

I have two distros on two drives as you will note, but you can change to
match your setup.

one or two drives?

cheers


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ty
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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) running on 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-27 Thread FemmeFatale

At 08:45 PM 9/26/2002 +1200, you wrote:
large surgical incision

  Point me or kick me in teh right direction pls!?
  ---
  Femme

You should be only allowed to have one /boot. I am fairly certain LILO
insists on it. Copy these files to a floppy:

/boot/vmlinuzXXX
/boot/initrdXXX
/etc/lilo.conf

Make sure the /boot/ files are the real thing and not pointers to the real
thing. Then wait one day to make sure i gave these instructions correctly ;-0

RESCUE your old system LILO setup (details given heaps of time on here).

Boot to the old (good) install.

Copy the vmlinuz and initrd into /boot.

Back up lilo.conf. Copy the relevant stanza from the floppy lilo.conf into
the active one.

Reboot and Bobs your uncle, (Bobs my brother, are you my niece or daughter?)
--
Michael

 From what i've read here on the list and in books, you should have 2 boot 
partitions ... each one for a different installation.  I did ask once about 
a single /boot partition for all my linux installs but I was told that can 
be quite tricky.  I Know i tried it once, and i ended up fuxoring my whole 
set of 2 installs in one day :P

Not that I mind... It just means I have more to learn  More to do. :)  Ty 
for your input Michael.  Should call ya Saint Michael just b/c you're so 
sweet in taking time to answer ppls questions :)

Sir Robin certainly believed me... hehe I knighted him a while ago ;p
---
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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) running on 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-27 Thread Damian G

 
  From what i've read here on the list and in books, you should have 2 boot 
 partitions ... each one for a different installation.  I did ask once about 
 a single /boot partition for all my linux installs but I was told that can 
 be quite tricky.  I Know i tried it once, and i ended up fuxoring my whole 
 set of 2 installs in one day :P

ROFL!! ... sorry i don't mean to laugh at you Femme, that sounds
just like what i would be constantly doing with my computer if i were not
forced to keep it working for my parents to use... aaah the phun i would have..
OMG the PHUN !! ;oP~~


i make one post in the whole day, and all i can come up with is this
nonsense.. aghh enough 'stand-by mode' for my brain. i'm off.

Damian
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[newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) running on 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-25 Thread FemmeFatale

I did this a while bank... Loaded MDK all went fine.  Loaded another MDK 
install on a totally separate set of partitions.

I thought of sharing /boot for both of the installs.  However I ran into a 
snag that says I don't have enough knowledge to do this.

On installing the 2nd MDK, I found i could ONLY boot the silly test OS, 
the 2nd MDK install.  The first one was not possible to boot.  Is there a 
simple way to do this?

Thx.



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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) running on 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-25 Thread Sharrea

On Thursday 26 Sep 2002 10:18 am, FemmeFatale wrote:
 I did this a while bank... Loaded MDK all went fine.  Loaded another MDK
 install on a totally separate set of partitions.

 I thought of sharing /boot for both of the installs.  However I ran into
 a snag that says I don't have enough knowledge to do this.

 On installing the 2nd MDK, I found i could ONLY boot the silly test OS,
 the 2nd MDK install.  The first one was not possible to boot.  Is there a
 simple way to do this?

Your 2nd install must have overwritten the original LILO so I guess all you 
have to do is add the entry for your first installation to /etc/lilo.conf 
in your 2nd MDK.  Just look for the correct vmlinuz in /boot and don't 
forget to run lilo after making the changes.

BTW this is assuming you didn't format the /boot partn during your 2nd 
installation.

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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) runningon 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-25 Thread mike

s wrote:

 I feel the urge to show off.  Anyone want to see mine as an example of
 multiboot?
 -s

Now lets see someone top that! 


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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Easy way to have 2 linuces (MDK) runningon 2 diff partitions.

2002-09-25 Thread s

On Thursday 26 September 2002 10:52 pm, mike wrote:
 s wrote:
  I feel the urge to show off.  Anyone want to see mine as an
  example of multiboot?
  -s

 Now lets see someone top that!

it used to be worse than that not too long ago until I trimmed it (and 
/boot) down to one kernel per install.
-s



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