[newbie] Upgrades
Hi Folks! Having used Mandrake6.1 for a couple of months I decided to did deep and buy through Cheapbytes version 7.0, the $1.99 single CD one :-) After a huge amount of hassles because the installation took offence to my hardware (Pentium200mmx, noname Mobo, 64mb ram, and S3Virge PCI) I finally managed to get it running. Now whilst I would in no way want to belittle the great work being done by the Mandrake team and associated Hackers, after looking around it a bit I wonder to myself if it would not have been possible to expand the already cool update system to update 6.1 to 7.0 instead of having to either download a complete ISO or buy a CD. You know what I mean, there is that update Icon on the desktop. Just a thought, for what it's worth. On a totally different subject, the new Installation system is somewhat buggy I think. It seems to occasionally "jump" stages, in particular the rather critical one of root and user password. You can go back to it, but it is a trap for young players, ending up with a fully functional Linux system that can't be logged into :-( Also the package selection tree is a little bit difficult to use as the only way that you can see if you have added or removed packages is by keeping an eye on the total installation size. Another small issue is that if you don't have a floppy drive, even if you select NOT to create a boot floppy, it bugs you for all the rest of the installation that it can't find the drive or something similar... I know that I am being a bit picky, but as this distribution is aimed at lobotomized Windoze users these small bugs could possibly scare the poor dears away. That's all for now folks... Cheers: Michael Perry. RD. Dep. Netafim Magal. Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack
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MDK 6.5 doesn't exist. Macmillan took Mandrake 6.1, put it in a shrink wrap package, and then called it Mandrake 6.5. Matt From: Meg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] upgrades Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:12:43 +0800 How does one go about upgrading mandrake from 6.1 to 6.5? If the process is too long, could someone point me towards the proper documentation to read? M __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] upgrades
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, M Thompson wrote: MDK 6.5 doesn't exist. Macmillan took Mandrake 6.1, put it in a shrink wrap package, and then called it Mandrake 6.5. Actually they called it Macmillan Complete Linux 6.5. The box very clearly states that it is Mandrake v6.1
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Seth Gibson wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, M Thompson wrote: MDK 6.5 doesn't exist. Macmillan took Mandrake 6.1, put it in a shrink wrap package, and then called it Mandrake 6.5. Actually they called it Macmillan Complete Linux 6.5. The box very clearly states that it is Mandrake v6.1 In big bold letters on all 4 sides the box says The 'Complete Linux Operating System 6.5', but on only 2 sides (the front and back) does it say in smaller letters 'Linux Mandrake 6.1 (Red Hat Linux with enhancements)'. I was confused too when I bought it.
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Sorry. I must have hit reply (R) instead of cc to all receipients (A) earlier. Back on list now. Using kmail. On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, you wrote: Meger...is there some reason this thread is no longer on the newbie list? One major purpose of the list is to make a database of info for folks to go look up solutions to problems. The info won't be available to anyone if the thread is taken private. I suppose that reinstalling shouldn't make a difference, but I've observed the same phenomenon as well. I'm glad your updates icon is now working properly, you see mine did the same as yours (I just was forced by circumstance to do a re-install) on my original install (end of September). That's why I knew how to fix the problem right off. But, interestingly enough, the same symptoms do not occur on this install. My updates icon worked fine from the getgo this time. I'd say that if you have extra disk space and want to test (that's what a beta test is for, testing for bugs) an operating system not deemed by it's authors as ready for distribution yet, then by all means get a copy and have at it. But don't install it in place of your working os. That'd be a mistake. Version 5.2 was called Leeloo, 5.3 was called Festen, 6.0 was called Venus and 6.1 is called Helios. The beta of 7.0 is called Oxygen and it'll be called something else other than Oxygen when it's released. If you're using Netscape, why use sendmail? Netscape doesn't need it. I have a 6 system lan with 4 users (me, wife 2 sons) and we all connect through a mandrake system masquerading for our lan and connected through a 28,800 (bad phone lines) bps modem. I use netscape's mail client on linux and the rest of the family use win98 outlook express. each client gets it's own mail. Now I have some reasons to use smail or sendmail with this setup and eventually will do so, but in your case it sounds like extra problems that you don't need. Where are you resetting your name and why not just name it correctly during setup? Anyway let's look at /etc/HOSTNAME what does yours have in it? here's mine: obi-wan.home.net Ok, now lets look at /etc/hosts what does iyours have in it? here's mine: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain 192.168.0.1 obi-wan.home.netobi-wan 192.168.0.2 bbs.home.netbbs 192.168.0.3 matt.home.net matt 192.168.0.4 jason.home.net jason 192.168.0.5 barbara.home.netbarbara 192.168.0.6 yoda.home.net yoda 192.168.0.7 yaddle.home.net yaddle 192.168.0.8 qui-gon.home.netqui-gon 192.168.0.9 alan.home.net alan Ok, now ignoring all but the top two entries (yes, there are only six machines, but some are dual booting systems so have two different names and IP's), the top one on yours should be (and stay) exactly the same as mine (thats the loopback device). The second line should be what you named your computer and your domain. So, yours should be something like: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain 192.168.0.1 local.mydestiny.net local Local for a computer name is kind of unimaginitive, not so? Anyway, enough for now. Alan Meg wrote: Hi Alan. This is my 2nd installation of mandrake, actually. First time I tried it was during the Christmas holidays, and that's when the updater didn't work. I did a new install because I think I screwed up sendmail, and I didn't know how to fix it. Couldn't even ask about it in mailing lists, cause I couldn't isolate what was wrong. So I reinstalled the other day, and when I tried it again this morning, right about after I sent you that question, it seemed to work fine. Now, I find that a bit odd..why does reinstalling sometimes fix things almost magically? I thought that that only happened with windows. Do you think it's a good idea to start playing around with Mandrake 7.0? And when you say Oxygen, is that a "popular name" for mandrake 7.0, like, they way they say, slink or ham or potato for different releases of debian? My old sendmail problem started, I think, when some servers wouldn't accept mail from my system because it was "unknown". I kept trying to play around with my hostname, trying to change it from localhost.localdomain to something I liked, and these changes would take effect. It kept reverting back to localhost.localdomain from, say, local.mydestiny.net, and I don't quite remember what I did to screw it all up, but one thing I never did was reset my hostname. Netscape sometimes comes up with an error that my localhost is unknown, and I should contact my sysadmin. But of course, after it reset to localhost.localdomain, this error doesn't come out anymore. Now, with my new install, which seems to be a bit better, i tried
[newbie] upgrades
How does one go about upgrading mandrake from 6.1 to 6.5? If the process is too long, could someone point me towards the proper documentation to read? M
[newbie] upgrades..
a couple questions here.. Does everyone d/l the updated RPM's and then install them or use the update icon on the desktop? (the one where you pick a server, then the updates, it d/l's them and installs them for you) Is there any advantage to either? Disadvantages? Second question, **HEY DEVELOPERS** Why not release updated ISO's like RH does? Would make my life easier!! =) -Bill
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I download them and then install with the kpackage manager or whatever you call it. You hit file on the package manager, hit open, guide the package manager to the location of the package that you want to open. works lahk a sharm. --- hevnsnt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a couple questions here.. Does everyone d/l the updated RPM's and then install them or use the update icon on the desktop? (the one where you pick a server, then the updates, it d/l's them and installs them for you) Is there any advantage to either? Disadvantages? Second question, **HEY DEVELOPERS** Why not release updated ISO's like RH does? Would make my life easier!! =) -Bill _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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On Tue, 06 Jul 1999, hevnsnt wrote: a couple questions here.. Does everyone d/l the updated RPM's and then install them or use the update icon on the desktop? (the one where you pick a server, then the updates, it d/l's them and installs them for you) Is there any advantage to either? Disadvantages? I guess using that updates program might be easiest for a newbie, but I keep forgetting about it and I ended up just downloading all of the updates to their own subdirectory under my home directory and then installing them with 'rpm -Uvh --nodeps *' (had to use --nodeps for the updated printtool package--and I would recommend using -ivh instead of -Uvh for the kernel packages for someone who is paranoid that the kernel update may not boot for them). I think I like that better, since I wanted to have all of the updates (for possible future use) in their own directory on my HD, and I don't know if the update program puts the rpm files on your HD since I haven't tried it. Second question, **HEY DEVELOPERS** Why not release updated ISO's like RH does? Would make my life easier!! =) -Bill Yeah, unless a lot of people are having problems with some of the updated packages, it would make a lot of sense to replace the ISO's with updated ISO's. Well, after they're fairly sure they're done updating, anyway--it wouldn't make much sense for someone to have to make a new ISO and reupload it every couple days if they are still frequently making new updates. :) Aside from requiring about 1.2GB of free HD space to work with, though, making your own updated ISO should not be too difficult. -Tom
[newbie] Upgrades
There are now no less that 35 rpms in the Mandrake 6.0 ftp upgrade directory... isn't than nearly a new distribution in its own right? (There are still only 6 in the 5.3 upgrade directory...) How am I supposed to know which I need? (I get a Gtk widget error and strnge errors with linuxconf)... Rgds Martin --- Martin Cleaver MCTranslations/Spot Softwarephone: +31 20 6162224 fax: +31 20 6838188[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] home page: http://people.a2000.nl/mcleaver
