Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote: I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked. Now if only Anne and Margot would stop... Sorry, I can't stop - I'd have to *start* first ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ "His eyes seemed to be popping out of his head. He wasn't certain if this was because they were trying to see more clearly, or if they simply wanted to leave at this point." -- Arthur trying to see who had diverted him from going to a party. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users, and how to disable their snooping system: http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, don't it? Actually, from what I read, it is not Adobe that is doing this. A third party has written an app to use a feature of Acrobat 7 (the ability to run Javascript within the document) it is always a bad idea to allow javascripts without filters. remember all the popups and pop-downs etc ? so that the IP address of whomever is opening the *.pdf can be logged. I'm not certain that Adobe will take kindly to this twisting of what was probably good intentions. Adobe always had problems with good intentions. "Repeal DMCA! Boycott Adobe!" http://freesklyarov.org/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/07/24/adobe_folds/ http://www.google.ch/search?q=adobe+boycott+Sklyarov In effect, it has turned a "feature" into a "bug" in Acrobat Reader, in the mind of many people. Those of us on dial-up, and those with a dynamic IP wouldn't care, but users with a static IP should be at least a little bit pissed. Before we condemn Adobe, lets wait and see how this plays out (and maybe some will want to disable Java in the Reader Java is something else. and install the perl script to stop the nagging). Also, does anyone know of any site, anywhere, using this? Maybe, just boycotting those sites would be effective. those pdf are also distributed by email and p2p. anyone can do it at any time. Time will tell. only if some pressure is applied. kind regards philippe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Sunday 03 Apr 2005 01:42, Stephen Kühn wrote: > On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote: > > I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked. > > Now if only Anne and Margot would stop... > No way - gotta have some fun somewhere Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpi57sPWI00w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Saturday 02 April 2005 11:12 am, SigmaX wrote: | Miark wrote: | >On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:49:52 +0200, Philippe wrote: | >>>Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here | >>>ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/ | >> | >>how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users, | >>and how to disable their snooping system: | >>http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html | | Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, don't it? | | SigmaX Actually, from what I read, it is not Adobe that is doing this. A third party has written an app to use a feature of Acrobat 7 (the ability to run Javascript within the document) so that the IP address of whomever is opening the *.pdf can be logged. I'm not certain that Adobe will take kindly to this twisting of what was probably good intentions. In effect, it has turned a "feature" into a "bug" in Acrobat Reader, in the mind of many people. Those of us on dial-up, and those with a dynamic IP wouldn't care, but users with a static IP should be at least a little bit pissed. Before we condemn Adobe, lets wait and see how this plays out (and maybe some will want to disable Java in the Reader and install the perl script to stop the nagging). Also, does anyone know of any site, anywhere, using this? Maybe, just boycotting those sites would be effective. Time will tell. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote: > I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked. Now if only Anne and Margot would stop... -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Leela: I love his boyish charm, but I hate his childishness. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Sunday 03 April 2005 01:13, Stephen Kühn wrote: > On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 09:50, Derek Jennings wrote: > > It seems that by disabling Javascript in acroread and applying this patch > > we can stop acroread spying on us. Of course a better solution is to > > stop using acroread. > > > > I tried out the patch. It seems to work. > > > > derek > > I just don't like anyone spying on me, nor my reading of PDF documents, > nor anything else. Just as with DRM, I find it an awful breach of > privacy - et al. > > Xpdf and Gpdf have been useful enough and more than adequate for my > tastes - and as Adobe enters the arena of gleaning personal information, > that only causes me to build a further dislike of their products and > services. > > IMHO. > > Oh, and Derek, quit spying on me. > > -- > stephen kuhn I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked. Seriously though, I could live without acroread apart from the browser plugin. Anyone know of an opensource solution for embedded browser viewing of pdf docs? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 09:50, Derek Jennings wrote: > It seems that by disabling Javascript in acroread and applying this patch we > can stop acroread spying on us. Of course a better solution is to stop using > acroread. > > I tried out the patch. It seems to work. > > derek I just don't like anyone spying on me, nor my reading of PDF documents, nor anything else. Just as with DRM, I find it an awful breach of privacy - et al. Xpdf and Gpdf have been useful enough and more than adequate for my tastes - and as Adobe enters the arena of gleaning personal information, that only causes me to build a further dislike of their products and services. IMHO. Oh, and Derek, quit spying on me. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- He may have come up with the recipe, but I came up with the idea of charging $6.95 for it. -- Moe Syzlak Flaming Moe's Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Saturday 02 April 2005 14:49, Philippe Landau wrote: > > Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/ > > how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users, > and how to disable their snooping system: > http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html > > kind regards philippe Following a post on slashdot I came across this page http://www.k-lug.org/~griswold/Progs/adobe7patch.html It seems that by disabling Javascript in acroread and applying this patch we can stop acroread spying on us. Of course a better solution is to stop using acroread. I tried out the patch. It seems to work. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:49:52 +0200, Philippe wrote: > > Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/ > > how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users, > and how to disable their snooping system: > http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html Version 7? Cripes, I never thought I'd see the day! Thanks for the spyware tip. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/ how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users, and how to disable their snooping system: http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html kind regards philippe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com