RE: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
It's funny as I can't get CD 1 to boot, I have to boot with CD2 and then swap them over. Everything is fine then. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish) On Thursday 11 March 2004 01:21 pm, Poogle wrote: Thanks, but this was bittorrent, md5sums on the ISO's said O.K, I forgot to add in my original post that I had tried booting from CD 2 and then changing to CD 1 when asked, that gave the same result Your iso's are only OK, _IF_ you check them before and _AFTER_ burning. Even then, before I mail sets to friends I make sure CD1 boots an proceeds. md5sum /dev/hd?... and then compare to the appropriate md5sum in the Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-md5sums.asc If they don't exactly match, first place to look is USER choices (how did you burn?)... hardware (system, burner, media used). Is this with an nForce chipset based system? That's also a poor USER hardware choice that has many problems. That many problems such as this are often reported against. See cooker archive. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
On Thursday 11 Mar 2004 19:36, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Poogle Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish) All snipped Dennis, Thanks, that did it. Strange though I've always accepted cdrecord's defaults and never had problems before, in fact I hadn't even noticed that burnfree was off. John -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
On Thursday 11 Mar 2004 23:58, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 11 March 2004 01:21 pm, Poogle wrote: Thanks, but this was bittorrent, md5sums on the ISO's said O.K, I forgot to add in my original post that I had tried booting from CD 2 and then changing to CD 1 when asked, that gave the same result Your iso's are only OK, _IF_ you check them before and _AFTER_ burning. Even then, before I mail sets to friends I make sure CD1 boots an proceeds. md5sum /dev/hd?... and then compare to the appropriate md5sum in the Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-md5sums.asc If they don't exactly match, first place to look is USER choices (how did you burn?)... hardware (system, burner, media used). Is this with an nForce chipset based system? That's also a poor USER hardware choice that has many problems. That many problems such as this are often reported against. See cooker archive. Thanks Tom, I'm learning all the time, Denis got to it with the burnfree issue, however I was unaware that I could md5sum AFTER burning, that tip will no doubt help in the future. BTW it's not nForce, it's VIA KT266. John -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
On Friday 12 March 2004 03:34 am, Poogle wrote: On Thursday 11 Mar 2004 23:58, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 11 March 2004 01:21 pm, Poogle wrote: Thanks, but this was bittorrent, md5sums on the ISO's said O.K, I forgot to add in my original post that I had tried booting from CD 2 and then changing to CD 1 when asked, that gave the same result Your iso's are only OK, _IF_ you check them before and _AFTER_ burning. Even then, before I mail sets to friends I make sure CD1 boots an proceeds. md5sum /dev/hd?... and then compare to the appropriate md5sum in the Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-md5sums.asc If they don't exactly match, first place to look is USER choices (how did you burn?)... hardware (system, burner, media used). Is this with an nForce chipset based system? That's also a poor USER hardware choice that has many problems. That many problems such as this are often reported against. See cooker archive. Thanks Tom, I'm learning all the time, Denis got to it with the burnfree issue, however I was unaware that I could md5sum AFTER burning, that tip will no doubt help in the future. BTW it's not nForce, it's VIA KT266. John You might need something different than what I posted, for less than 10.0 systems. Try 'md5sum /mnt/cdrom' or 'md5sum /dev/scd0' Actually it's best to use your burner to read the md5sum, so use that /mnt/ or /dev/ Yours is the first complaint I've seen where a nForce board wasn't involved. Another issue is if the system has a SCSI CDrom. So it's even more probable you've got a bad burn. So try again at a lower speed (Mandrake suggests 4x on the cooker page) cdrecord -eject -v speed=4 dev=0,0 -dao file_name.iso Once you've got 10.0 installed with a 2.6 kernel it'll all be different, as ide-scsi is no longer used. Run 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' to determine dev=ATA: cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=ATA:3,1,0 -dao and then with 10.0/2.6 kernel 'md5sum /dev/hdX' is what to use. The burn option -dao is a must if you want to check the md5sum. Absolutely do not use -pad or -data, or other options. I use driveropts=burnfree, but if it causes any problems, it's better not to use it at all. Particulary older drives when burnfree first came out. I'd suggest a thoro read of 'man cdrecord' if any of all this is fuzzy to 'ya ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
On Friday 12 March 2004 03:24 am, Poogle wrote: On Thursday 11 Mar 2004 19:36, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Poogle Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish) All snipped Dennis, Thanks, that did it. Strange though I've always accepted cdrecord's defaults and never had problems before, in fact I hadn't even noticed that burnfree was off. John I know what you mean, it is almost always on by default, strange that in this case it went to off. Glad it works now though. Have fun, there are some issues with 10.0, see the erratta but all in all I for one think this one cooks. It is very snappy. I like the new prog tree too. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
Title: RE: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Poogle Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish) I got CDs 1-3 (bittorrent worked for me), md5sums checked o.k and then burnt them from the command line using cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -eject /home/(path snipped)/Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Powerpack-CD1.i586.iso CD1 boots to press enter to install etc then gives a message could not uncompress second stage ramdisk, may be a hardware error or kernel bug After pause I get to the select keyboard, then accept licence, then partion, then to select packages to install now the error message no kernel available followed by a string of messages about /usr/bin/per;-install/pkgs.pm.185 and so on. At this point I can do nothing except power off. The problem appears to be caused when I burn the CDs, tried 4 times with different manufacturers (700mb) media, 2 CD-R 2 CD-RW and get the output below. (I have d/l CD1 iso again and get the same result) output from cdrecord - BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 615 of 693 MB written (fifo 1%) [buf 21%] 1.2x.cdrecord: Input/ output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 04 CE 31 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 1.853s timeout 40s write track data: error after 644974592 bytes Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Writing time: 1065.784s Average write speed 4.4x. Min drive buffer fill was 21% Fixating... Fixating time: 91.653s cdrecord: fifo had 10223 puts and 10160 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 5 times empty and 6943 times full, min fill was 0%. I see it says 615 of 693mb written but when I (in konqueror) go to /mnt, right click on cdrom and select properties it calculates it as 690.2mb -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Why do you have Burn-free set to OFF? It may be that due to read-write errors your disk is not error free but looks like it has all 690.2mb. Set Burn-Free on and try again ? Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
On Thursday 11 March 2004 11:03 am, Poogle wrote: I got CDs 1-3 (bittorrent worked for me), md5sums checked o.k and then burnt them from the command line using cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -eject /home/(path snipped)/Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Powerpack-CD1.i586.iso CD1 boots to press enter to install etc then gives a message could not uncompress second stage ramdisk, may be a hardware error or kernel bug After pause I get to the select keyboard, then accept licence, then partion, then to select packages to install now the error message no kernel available followed by a string of messages about /usr/bin/per;-install/pkgs.pm.185 and so on. At this point I can do nothing except power off. The problem appears to be caused when I burn the CDs, tried 4 times with different manufacturers (700mb) media, 2 CD-R 2 CD-RW and get the output below. (I have d/l CD1 iso again and get the same result) output from cdrecord - BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 615 of 693 MB written (fifo 1%) [buf 21%] 1.2x.cdrecord: Input/ output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 04 CE 31 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 1.853s timeout 40s write track data: error after 644974592 bytes Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Writing time: 1065.784s Average write speed 4.4x. Min drive buffer fill was 21% Fixating... Fixating time: 91.653s cdrecord: fifo had 10223 puts and 10160 gets. -- here seems to be the problem cdrecord: fifo was 5 times empty and 6943 times full, min fill was 0%. - I see it says 615 of 693mb written but when I (in konqueror) go to /mnt, right click on cdrom and select properties it calculates it as 690.2mb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10 Powerpack CD1 woes (longish)
On Thursday 11 March 2004 01:21 pm, Poogle wrote: Thanks, but this was bittorrent, md5sums on the ISO's said O.K, I forgot to add in my original post that I had tried booting from CD 2 and then changing to CD 1 when asked, that gave the same result Your iso's are only OK, _IF_ you check them before and _AFTER_ burning. Even then, before I mail sets to friends I make sure CD1 boots an proceeds. md5sum /dev/hd?... and then compare to the appropriate md5sum in the Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-md5sums.asc If they don't exactly match, first place to look is USER choices (how did you burn?)... hardware (system, burner, media used). Is this with an nForce chipset based system? That's also a poor USER hardware choice that has many problems. That many problems such as this are often reported against. See cooker archive. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
