Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Thu, 02 May 2002 23:11:22 -0500 Brian Koppe [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Wow - how'd you know it was Mozilla? Thanks btw, it works shane wrote: You can check the headers for that sort of info ;o) Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Brian Koppe wrote: Wow - how'd you know it was Mozilla? Thanks btw, it works shane wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2002 20:24, Brian Koppe opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: How do you sort by thread? That'd be really cool what is your mail client? wait looks like mozilla, yes? try going to view sort by thread. may be wrong, don't recall, been using kmail for what seems like forever. No secret about the Mozilla thing. This info is suplied with your e-mail. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020417 -- Air is water with holes in it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Brian Koppe wrote: Wow - how'd you know it was Mozilla? Thanks btw, it works shane wrote: Well, if you want to know what mailer people are using just click on View=Headers=All and look at the stanzas in the header beginning with the letter X. Older headers had an X-Mailer entrywhich identified the client. That will serve for 99.9%+ of all cases except for someone who uses remailer programs or gets cute with telnetting into some relaying machine on port 25 to completely spoof the header (which is after all just text). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
That would be XP - I read the e-mail after playing Jedi Knight II which I have not had time to figure out how to get working in Linux yet. civileme wrote: Brian Koppe wrote: Wow - how'd you know it was Mozilla? Thanks btw, it works shane wrote: View=Headers=All and look at User-Agent, which also says you are using Windows NT 5.1. Is that what MS calls W2K formally ? Or is it XP? Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Josef Lowder wrote: Any suggestions on how to efficiently cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? I just signed up to the newbie and expert mail lists and I am overwhelmed by the volume of email. I created a new folder named linux and set the post address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinking that perhaps that would cause new incoming mail to go to that folder instead of cluttering up my inbox, but that doesn't work. Here's how I do it - it may not be perfect for everybody. I receive mail using Netscape 6.2. I have set up a newbie folder and created a filter which sends mail with [Newbie] in the subject line and/or newbie in the sender line to this folder. The messages in this folder are sorted by thread. I read those threads which seem relevant to me and delete the rest unread (probably about 2/3). You're right, there is a lot of traffic and I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't have time to read it all -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Thursday 02 May 2002 01:53 am, Mcleod, Ian wrote: BTW - 10 points for anyone that can guess the Old English origin of 'whelmed' Ian McLeod Well Ian, here's my guess : English : overwhelmed, Danish : overvældet. In danish (and the other nordic dialects) vælde means power force mighty. The word is often used in context with the ocean - of which we have plenty here. A huge amount of the nordic languages was absorbed into english around 900 - 1200 when most of Britain was under danelaw. Reading Shakespeare illustrates this well. And to add to your vocabulary : in danish a sjuft is a villain, a crook, a criminal. Accordingly, a notorious software-company here is called Microsjuft. Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Thursday 02 May 2002 20:24, Brian Koppe opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: How do you sort by thread? That'd be really cool what is your mail client? wait looks like mozilla, yes? try going to view sort by thread. may be wrong, don't recall, been using kmail for what seems like forever. -- you can have peace or freedom, but never count on both at once -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Wow - how'd you know it was Mozilla? Thanks btw, it works shane wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2002 20:24, Brian Koppe opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: How do you sort by thread? That'd be really cool what is your mail client? wait looks like mozilla, yes? try going to view sort by thread. may be wrong, don't recall, been using kmail for what seems like forever. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Brian says: Use Mozilla for your browsing, e-mail, and IRC needs! v 0.9.9 available for free at http://www.mozilla.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
I havent been following all the messages for this nor care to read them all but here is what works for me: First off i use Kmail and use its mail filter 1) i made a bunch of folders under one called 'Linux lists' such as hardware, install, kde, kernal, network, other, programming, security, server, software, virus, etc. just to name a few and you can also add some under the sub folders if you see fit. 2) then i made a shit load of filter (over 200 i would say, not all at once though they kinda evolve over time) which look something like this for a basic one: start of filter Filter Criteria: Match all of the following Subject - contains - firewall Subject - contains - newbie Filter Actions: move to folder - security /start if you subscribe to the expert list also then you will also want to add a new filter with the same entries except change 'newbie' to 'expert'. i have to add the newbe and expert to everything (or the heading for other lists) because i have friends that may email me questions about computers that would get mixed up in the lists if i didn't add that so they go to my inbox so you get an email such as [Newbie] firewall don't work...help then it will be placed in the 'security' folder upon delivery. if you get a lot about security then you could make a sub folder called firewall and have any emails with newbie and firewall in the subject line go to the 'firewall' folder. Hope you get the idea behind this so far. I will add new ones temporaraly such as 'mkisofs' filter since their has been many email lately with that in the subject then when that subject dies just delete it (keep these at the top of the list) Now you may be wondering what is the point in all of this. well my reasoning is sometimes you will have a question about 'installing kde' and you thing you remember seeing someting about that a few months ago on the mailing list you can just click on the 'KDE' folder and scroll down untill you find what you need. The alternitive is to spend 30 min or so looking through the archives on the mandrake webpage. Or another example would be you want learn about viruses and linux since you have the filters set up you can look in the virus folder and see whats in their. But anyway i really like the set up since i subscribe to more than the mandrake lists i get around 500-600 emails a day from the lists all togather and i needed an advanced way to group similar things togather. One major point if you go to set up something like this is order is everything in the world for the filters. each email starts at the top working its way down when it hits a match it stops. so think about placement! Put very specific filters at the top and broad ones at the bottom. my last filter takes anything that is left and has 'fwd' in the subject is placed in a seperate folder called forwards. (Some friends love to fwd garbage to ya) and right before that i have what i like to call a sex filter that bounces anything having to do with the topic back to the sender and then a copy in the trash (since i added this one i don't get much anymore) Hope this helps someone Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Brian Koppe wrote: How do you sort by thread? That'd be really cool Graham Watkins wrote: I receive mail using Netscape 6.2. I have set up a newbie folder and created a filter which sends mail with [Newbie] in the subject line and/or newbie in the sender line to this folder. The messages in this folder are sorted by thread. I read those threads which seem relevant to me and delete the rest unread (probably about 2/3). You're right, there is a lot of traffic and I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't have time to read it all ViewSort By Thread Easypeasy -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Wednesday 01 May 2002 18:01, Josef Lowder wrote: Any suggestions on how to efficiently cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? I just signed up to the newbie and expert mail lists and I am overwhelmed by the volume of email. I created a new folder named linux and set the post address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinking that perhaps that would cause new incoming mail to go to that folder instead of cluttering up my inbox, but that doesn't work. What mail client are you using? In KMail (at least in my rather old version) you also haveto set up a filter. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Wed, 1 May 2002 19:27:46 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 May 2002 18:01, Josef Lowder wrote: Any suggestions on how to efficiently cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? I just signed up to the newbie and expert mail lists and I am overwhelmed by the volume of email. I created a new folder named linux and set the post address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinking that perhaps that would cause new incoming mail to go to that folder instead of cluttering up my inbox, but that doesn't work. What mail client are you using? In KMail (at least in my rather old version) you also haveto set up a filter. That holds true for any email client. You will also find that people will use different variations of @linux-mandrake.com when sending mails to the list so I have filter set subject/keyword 'newbie' move to inbox folder newbie and a similar set for expert. This is 99.9% effective. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Try using a mail filter - it is what you should do for all mailing lists you join otherwise you will be overwhelmed. BTW - 10 points for anyone that can guess the Old English origin of 'whelmed' Ian McLeod Customer Service Office (CSO) EDS (Australia) Pty Ltd Level 9, 108 North Tce, Adelaide, SA, 5000 Phone: (08) 8464 1304 Fax: (08) 8464 2141 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDS... The recognised global leader in ensuring clients achieve superior value in the Digital Economy SAG Account Vision * EDS becomes the clear supplier of choice to South Australian based customers for all IT services and needs, regardless of contractual obligations -Original Message- From: Josef Lowder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? Any suggestions on how to efficiently cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? I just signed up to the newbie and expert mail lists and I am overwhelmed by the volume of email. I created a new folder named linux and set the post address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinking that perhaps that would cause new incoming mail to go to that folder instead of cluttering up my inbox, but that doesn't work. Josef Lowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Josef Lowder wrote: Any suggestions on how to efficiently cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? I just signed up to the newbie and expert mail lists and I am overwhelmed by the volume of email. I created a new folder named linux and set the post address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinking that perhaps that would cause new incoming mail to go to that folder instead of cluttering up my inbox, but that doesn't work. Josef Lowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Josef, what email client are you using cause it sounds as though the filter you're trying to use isn't working correctly. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Thu, 2 May 2002 09:53:40 +1000 Mcleod, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try using a mail filter - it is what you should do for all mailing lists you join otherwise you will be overwhelmed. BTW - 10 points for anyone that can guess the Old English origin of 'whelmed' whelm Pronunciation Key (hwlm, wlm) tr.v. whelmed, whelm·ing, whelms To cover with water; submerge. To overwhelm. ;o) Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Thanks - I have been wondering what 'whelmed' means for some time. I can sleep easy now ;-) -Original Message- From: Damian G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? On Thu, 2 May 2002 09:53:40 +1000 Mcleod, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try using a mail filter - it is what you should do for all mailing lists you join otherwise you will be overwhelmed. BTW - 10 points for anyone that can guess the Old English origin of 'whelmed' whelm Pronunciation Key (hwlm, wlm) tr.v. whelmed, whelm·ing, whelms To cover with water; submerge. To overwhelm. ;o) Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
