Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
rikona wrote: I don't seem to have one of these. Is MD supposed to come set up with one? I was going to set up a link, but I don't seem to have the dir '/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/index.html'. Did I not install something? my apologies for leaving out in previous reply. in md 9.0, may be diff vnum in md 9.1, howto's are in; howto-html-en-9.0-0.1mdk and howto-utils-0.2.9-1mdk rpms. i believe that they are installed from selection 'documentation' during a graphic install. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
rikona wrote: I don't seem to have one of these. Is MD supposed to come set up with one? my x desktop is built from accumulation of past distribs that i carry to new installs. icon for 'linux documents' is from somewhere around md 6. I was going to set up a link, but I don't seem to have the dir '/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/index.html'. Did I not install something? good question. i am still with md 9.0, as i have problems with md 9.1 dl. When I'm hungry[desperate for a quick solution], feeding is nice. :-) true, but when someone feeds you, do you look around on your own to find desert? like, more info about what you are in question about? or do you just accept answers with out further research? Your short summary would be a good beginning for a 'HOW TO find info', though. Might be very worthwhile for newbies. my knowledge gained is from having been in unix from 70's and 80's. over time, what i have learned is from a lot of reading of books, man pages and howto's. from what i have noted in a lot of newbie questions, many questions are asked because newbies do not take enough time, of put fort enough effort to find out how linux works on their own. no reflection on anyone, just something that comes about from way things are when someone is an ms windows user. ms windows is, with out question, easier than x-windows. linux is not ms and hopefully never will be. always remember, you get out of something what you are willing to put into it. if you take an easy way by asking questions with out first looking for answers, a day will come when you are in dire need of help, and no way to connect. another is, i believe, that newbies have a tendency to try to 'keep up with jones' by installing and updating every time there is a new release. what is gained, is how to do installs and updates and nothing is learned about how and what of systems themselves. what would be of great help for newbies, is for replies to point newbies in a direction to help themselves. how many times have you seen answers given without any refs to man, info, or howto's? much less hot links to places to find further info. tech lists have become more of a 'quick answer' than they are true tech support learning place. as for apropos, i have never found it to be all that helpful when it does work. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 3:23 am, stormjumper wrote: and that's probably where apropos comes in (see last line of included output) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sj]# apropos link cleanlinks (1x) - remove dangling symbolic links and empty directories ifplugd (8) - A link detection daemon for ethernet devices ifstatus (8) - A link beat detection tool ld (1) - Using LD, the GNU linker ld.so/ld [ld](8) - linux.so - dynamic linker/loader ldconfig (8) - determine run-time link bindings link (1) - call the link function to create a link to a file ln (1) - make links between files *remainder of apropos output snipped* That's useful. I never really understood the use of apropos, but I can see it helping here. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 12:19 am, g wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Of course, the snag is that you have to know that 'ln' is the progname for making a symbolic link g snip possibilities are numerous. Absolutely - as always, linux is about choice g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 01:23, Len Lawrence wrote: On 12 Jun 2003 17:40:14 -0400 Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 22:44, Derick Schmidt wrote: Hi Use ln -s path to the file or folder you want to link for example ln -s /mnt/win_d Aren't you missing the name of the link in your syntax? Not necessarily. If no name is specified the last component of the file name is used. In this particular case the link will be named win_d in whichever directory the command is invoked. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me. :0) T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
It is also useful to remember that the path that you specify for the first parameter can and often should be a relative path. For example if I have a project involving a lot of files in multiple directories, and in one of those I need a link to a file in another, it would be better to do: ln -s ../dir/file than ln -s /home/richard/development/project/dir/file The difference comes when the entire project tree is copied elsewhere, for example Joe might take over the project. So the file is now in /home/joe/mystuff/progs/project/dir/file. If I linked it relative then the link would still work, but with absolute pathnames they would have to be recreated. On the other hand a link oustide the project, say to /usr/include/stdio.h should be done with an absolute path, or it will fail in the same circumstances: ln -s ../../../../../usr/include/stdio.h when moved to Joe's directory now refers to /home/usr/include/stdio.h, which does not exist. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:34:06 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: example Joe might take over the project Bd idea! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:52:47 up 10 days, 7:56, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sj]# apropos link cleanlinks (1x) - remove dangling symbolic links and empty directories ifplugd (8) - A link detection daemon for ethernet *remainder of apropos output snipped* That's useful. I never really understood the use of apropos, but I can see it helping here. And for those of you like me who have trouble speling approppos :) it's the same as man -k link (k for keyword). eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
Mine is broken somehow. [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ apropos ln inet_lnaof [inet](3) - Internet address manipulation routines isalnum [isalpha](3) - character classification routines iswalnum (3) - test for alphanumeric wide character It's not a big deal, just strange mostly. eric On Fri June 13 2003 05:03 am, Ken Walker wrote: There is if you type aprops ln, goes to show if you use that you think is what you want, it isn't always and can lead you on a merry roundabout. -Original Message- From: eric huff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 5:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link? and that's probably where apropos comes in (see last line of included output) I was just about to mention apropos, but check out my output: no ln command. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:54:11 -0700 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: And for those of you like me who have trouble speling approppos :) it's the same as man -k link (k for keyword). Cool! I know, I'm a gud speler mosly, but apr...appro...a.. ah, ferget it. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 12:11:48 up 10 days, 10:15, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ apropos ln inet_lnaof [inet](3) - Internet address manipulation routines isalnum [isalpha](3) - character classification routines iswalnum (3) - test for alphanumeric wide character My guess - as I was looking things up here - no ln(1) man page. Aproopos is built from lines in man pages, ergo apropos doesn't come up with anything remotely related. $ man ln here says no manual entry for ln. This is from a somewhat restored cooker from a 9.0 install and there may be all sorts of missing bits but the other manual pages are there (or at least lots of them) and manpath is set. eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 4:58 pm, eric huff wrote: Mine is broken somehow. [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ apropos ln inet_lnaof [inet](3) - Internet address manipulation routines isalnum [isalpha](3) - character classification routines iswalnum (3) - test for alphanumeric wide character It's not a big deal, just strange mostly. Another useful snippet - but it's harder to read than apropos Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link? hijacked to apropos
On Fri June 13 2003 09:38 am, David E Fox wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ apropos ln inet_lnaof [inet](3) - Internet address manipulation routines isalnum [isalpha](3) - character classification routines iswalnum (3) - test for alphanumeric wide character My guess - as I was looking things up here - no ln(1) man page. Aproopos is built from lines in man pages, ergo apropos doesn't come up with anything remotely related. $ man ln here says no manual entry for ln. This is from a somewhat restored cooker from a 9.0 install and there may be all sorts of missing bits but the other manual pages are there (or at least lots of them) and manpath is set. But i do have a man ln, and it has link in the desc. (no apropos for links, either) NAME ln - make links between files Oh well eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
Hi Use ln -s path to the file or folder you want to link for example ln -s /mnt/win_d -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marco Verheul Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link? Hi, Does anybody know how to create a symbolic link? Marco -- Registered Linux user #268279 * This message is composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
Marco Verheul wrote: Does anybody know how to create a symbolic link? marco, linux and unix have a program know as 'man', which is terse for 'manual'. definition for most all command line commands can be viewed by entering, in command line mode, either outside of x-windows, or in an x terminal window. so, any time you are wondering about a command, simply enter 'man progname'. in this case, 'man ln'. you can even enter 'man man' to get a description of how to use 'man'. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Thursday 12 Jun 2003 8:52 pm, g wrote: Marco Verheul wrote: Does anybody know how to create a symbolic link? marco, linux and unix have a program know as 'man', which is terse for 'manual'. definition for most all command line commands can be viewed by entering, in command line mode, either outside of x-windows, or in an x terminal window. so, any time you are wondering about a command, simply enter 'man progname'. in this case, 'man ln'. you can even enter 'man man' to get a description of how to use 'man'. Of course, the snag is that you have to know that 'ln' is the progname for making a symbolic link g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 22:44, Derick Schmidt wrote: Hi Use ln -s path to the file or folder you want to link for example ln -s /mnt/win_d Aren't you missing the name of the link in your syntax? T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 05:36 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link? On Thursday 12 Jun 2003 8:52 pm, g wrote: Marco Verheul wrote: Does anybody know how to create a symbolic link? marco, linux and unix have a program know as 'man', which is terse for 'manual'. definition for most all command line commands can be viewed by entering, in command line mode, either outside of x-windows, or in an x terminal window. so, any time you are wondering about a command, simply enter 'man progname'. in this case, 'man ln'. you can even enter 'man man' to get a description of how to use 'man'. Of course, the snag is that you have to know that 'ln' is the progname for making a symbolic link g Anne and that's probably where apropos comes in (see last line of included output) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sj]# apropos link cleanlinks (1x) - remove dangling symbolic links and empty directories ifplugd (8) - A link detection daemon for ethernet devices ifstatus (8) - A link beat detection tool ld (1) - Using LD, the GNU linker ld.so/ld [ld](8) - linux.so - dynamic linker/loader ldconfig (8) - determine run-time link bindings link (1) - call the link function to create a link to a file ln (1) - make links between files *remainder of apropos output snipped* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
and that's probably where apropos comes in (see last line of included output) I was just about to mention apropos, but check out my output: no ln command. I definitely have ln, and a man page for it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ apropos link NETLINK_ROUTE [rtnetlink] (7) - Linux IPv4 routing socket PF_NETLINK [netlink] (7) - Communication between kernel and user _skb_unlink [skb_unlink] (9) - remove an sk_buff from its list dlclose [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlerror [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlopen (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlsym [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader link (2) - make a new name for a file netlink (3) - Netlink macros netlink (7) - Communication between kernel and user readlink (2) - read value of a symbolic link rtnetlink(3) - Macros to manipuate rtnetlink messages rtnetlink(7) - Linux IPv4 routing socket shm_open (3) - Create/open or unlink POSIX shared memory objects shm_unlink [shm_open] (3) - Create/open or unlink POSIX shared memory objects skb_unlink (9) - remove an sk_buff from its list symlink (2) - make a new name for a file unlink (2) - delete a name and possibly the file it refers to Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
On 12 Jun 2003 17:40:14 -0400 Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 22:44, Derick Schmidt wrote: Hi Use ln -s path to the file or folder you want to link for example ln -s /mnt/win_d Aren't you missing the name of the link in your syntax? Not necessarily. If no name is specified the last component of the file name is used. In this particular case the link will be named win_d in whichever directory the command is invoked. -- Len Lawrence -- Never face facts; if you do, you'll never get up in the morning. -- Marlo Thomas -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
- Original Message - From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link? and that's probably where apropos comes in (see last line of included output) I was just about to mention apropos, but check out my output: no ln command. I definitely have ln, and a man page for it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ apropos link NETLINK_ROUTE [rtnetlink] (7) - Linux IPv4 routing socket PF_NETLINK [netlink] (7) - Communication between kernel and user _skb_unlink [skb_unlink] (9) - remove an sk_buff from its list dlclose [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlerror [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlopen (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlsym [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader link (2) - make a new name for a file netlink (3) - Netlink macros netlink (7) - Communication between kernel and user readlink (2) - read value of a symbolic link rtnetlink(3) - Macros to manipuate rtnetlink messages rtnetlink(7) - Linux IPv4 routing socket shm_open (3) - Create/open or unlink POSIX shared memory objects shm_unlink [shm_open] (3) - Create/open or unlink POSIX shared memory objects skb_unlink (9) - remove an sk_buff from its list symlink (2) - make a new name for a file unlink (2) - delete a name and possibly the file it refers to i suspect a combination of mandrake versions and installation type can mess up apropos. in my quoted case, i was using mandrake 9.1, text-install, and minimal choice of packages. i realised that man-pages-whateverversion.rpm wasn't installed, and apropos as a result didn't show many otherwise useful possibilities until i added man-pages.whatever.rpm manually using urpmi. on my mandrake 9.0 system, apropos fails completely, showing no output for even common stuff, eg # apropos cp cp: nothing appropriate running makewhatis results in the following error. # makewhatis /usr/sbin/makewhatis: line 156: cd: /usr/man: No such file or directory i just left it alone, since i do most of my work (except email) on my mandrake 9.1 system anyway. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
