RE: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-11 Thread Richard Urwin
 Some burning programs need to be told that the ISO is an El Torito
 bootable CD (which is different than a Windows bootable CD) - so it
may
 not have written all the necessary booting data to the CD...

I was wondering why mine didn't boot; I burned it under Windows.
Is this the case for ISO images, though, I'd have thought they specified
everything.

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RE: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-11 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 21:02, Richard Urwin wrote:
 
 I was wondering why mine didn't boot; I burned it under Windows.
 Is this the case for ISO images, though, I'd have thought they specified
 everything.
 
 --
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 No 9000 series computer has ever made a mitsake or corrubiteddatatato.

No. Creating ISO images doesn't always mean that it's going to
read/write the actual boot sector properly - hence programs like
BLIND-READ and BLIND-WRITE that make complete dupes of a CD. I like
doing my ISO under linux as opposed to using Windo$e mainly for that
reason. I can burn a bootable ISO of Mac OS/X as well as WinXP, WinNT,
OS/2, BeOS or whatever...doesn't matter. Windo$e burners inherently
don't do a great job (unless you REALLY configure your software properly
- and Nero is probably the only one that works aside from
Blind-Read/Blind-Write)...as well, what you read an ISO with and how
it's read are important - same with the final burn of the ISO to
CD...attention to detail is important...

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RE: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-08 Thread Greg
Yes That is what I did  but some thing went wrong   I am still checking on it so I can 
correct it  
Greg


Tim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I ran the dosutils/rawwrite.exe program to create my boot floppy under
windows.  When you run that program, you have to point to the
images/cdrom.img file to create the floppy.  Is that what you did?

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 Subject: [newbie] Installing 9.0


   Hi every one   I ordered 9.0  from Mandrakes web site but have
 no word on when they will get here   So I figured I would
 download it and burn my own from the download  I downloaded 9.0
 and burned a cd  but when I try to make a boot disk to a floppy
 the is nothing on the floppyI never had any trouble  before
 with the disks that I bought  Any ideas   Thanks  Greg

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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-08 Thread Greg
What do you mean by burning the iso to the cd
It wont boot by cd   My hardware does support it
 Greg

Vasiliy Boulytchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I guess, I forget to think like a tech.  Sorry.  Anyways 
good luck with 9.0 
I enjoy it at work as my desktop system very much.  KDE 3 
rocks


On 07 Nov 2002 20:44:53 -0500
  Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 20:40, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:
 
 shouldn't that cd be bootable itself?

Yes, generally unless his hardware doesn't support it, or 
unless he
actually burned the .iso file to the cd itself.

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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-08 Thread Greg
Hi everyone  I found out what was  keeping me from making a boot floppy
It was a bad floppy  I want to thank everyone for the help It is people like the 
ones on this list that help make Linux the best  
Greg

Vasiliy Boulytchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


shouldn't that cd be bootable itself?


On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:34:14 -0500
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg) wrote:
   Hi every one   I ordered 9.0  from Mandrakes web site 
but have no word on when they will get here   So I 
figured I would download it and burn my own from the 
download  I downloaded 9.0 and burned a cd  but when I 
try to make a boot disk to a floppy  the is nothing on 
the floppyI never had any trouble  before with the 
disks that I bought  Any ideas   Thanks  Greg

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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 16:25, Greg wrote:
 What do you mean by burning the iso to the cd
 It wont boot by cd   My hardware does support it
  Greg

Some burning programs need to be told that the ISO is an El Torito
bootable CD (which is different than a Windows bootable CD) - so it may
not have written all the necessary booting data to the CD...

Have you tried doing the installation through Windows? If you insert
CD#1 in while you're in Windows, you DO have the option to run the
installation...that is, if you didn't blow out Windows from the machine
in the first place...

I created space on a test machine (9gb) and moved the WinXP data to the
back of the partition - ran the CD through Windows and performed the
installation. After the install was done, I did have my Windows partion
not only automatically mounted under /mnt/windows, but the OS was added
to the lilo boot screen as well. Was fairly painless. I would have tried
the bootdisk, but this workstation doesn't have a floppy drive...

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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 17:02, Greg wrote:
 Hi everyone  I found out what was  keeping me from making a boot floppy
 It was a bad floppy  I want to thank everyone for the help It is people like the 
ones on this list that help make Linux the best  
 Greg

I suppose you'll be purchasing a box of diskettes rather soon?

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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-07 Thread Anthony Abby
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 20:40, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:
 
 shouldn't that cd be bootable itself?

Yes, generally unless his hardware doesn't support it, or unless he
actually burned the .iso file to the cd itself.

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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 12:44, Anthony Abby wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 20:40, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:
  
  shouldn't that cd be bootable itself?
 
 Yes, generally unless his hardware doesn't support it, or unless he
 actually burned the .iso file to the cd itself.
 
 Anthony
The CD MIGHT be a bootable CD - but what I'd really like to know is how
is the boot disk being created, what are the errors (if any) and what
color is the other side of the moon in June...

Meanwhile, if a bootable diskette can't be made properly from the ISO
that he downloaded, maybe a MDKv9 bootdisk could be put up on someone's
ftp site for download for the poor guy?

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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-07 Thread Vasiliy Boulytchev
I guess, I forget to think like a tech.  Sorry.  Anyways 
good luck with 9.0 
I enjoy it at work as my desktop system very much.  KDE 3 
rocks


On 07 Nov 2002 20:44:53 -0500
 Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 20:40, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:


shouldn't that cd be bootable itself?


Yes, generally unless his hardware doesn't support it, or 
unless he
actually burned the .iso file to the cd itself.

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RE: [newbie] Installing 9.0

2002-11-07 Thread Tim Werner
I ran the dosutils/rawwrite.exe program to create my boot floppy under
windows.  When you run that program, you have to point to the
images/cdrom.img file to create the floppy.  Is that what you did?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Greg
 Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Installing 9.0


   Hi every one   I ordered 9.0  from Mandrakes web site but have
 no word on when they will get here   So I figured I would
 download it and burn my own from the download  I downloaded 9.0
 and burned a cd  but when I try to make a boot disk to a floppy
 the is nothing on the floppyI never had any trouble  before
 with the disks that I bought  Any ideas   Thanks  Greg

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