Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Friday 25 June 2004 14:00, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:16:35 -0400 JoeHill wrote: One thing I'm not sure of, and maybe Charles can answer this, is whether this will add an option for XFCE4 to your graphical login. I don't use it either, I use Xtart, but I did test it on 1 system and it does add an option to the graphical login Charles Thanks Charles I will try it. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 15:40, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? There is also a setting in the X config file that controls how hard you have to try to move the mouse off the edge before it switches. I think it is called something like edge effect. I remember playing with it a few years ago. You can have anything from just bumping the edge to so hard it has the effect of turning it off. It can be handy if you set it right for the way you move the mouse... I just realized that I didnt know what wm I was using, I was confusing the login manager with window manager, so I went looking and found 'icewm' and so far everytime I have used anything with ice in it I have disliked it. Can anyone suggest a different wm and tell me how to change to it? -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:01:42 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: I just realized that I didnt know what wm I was using, I was confusing the login manager with window manager, so I went looking and found 'icewm' and so far everytime I have used anything with ice in it I have disliked it. Can anyone suggest a different wm and tell me how to change to it? A very good Desktop is XFCE4. Easy to use, yet pleasing to the eye, lots of choices for themes etc. If you go to Charles' site, and add him as a source, you can install it by just doing: urpmi xfce4 link: http://www.eslrahc.com/ One thing I'm not sure of, and maybe Charles can answer this, is whether this will add an option for XFCE4 to your graphical login. I don't use one myself, I highly recommend using a text mode login and starting X from there, in which case it should just be: startxfce4 to start X with XFCE4 as your desktop. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 12:11:27 up 7 days, 17:35, 9 users, load average: 0.47, 0.27, 0.16 +++ Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power -- Benito Mussolini Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Friday 25 June 2004 11:16, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:01:42 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: snip A very good Desktop is XFCE4. Easy to use, yet pleasing to the eye, lots of choices for themes etc. If you go to Charles' site, and add him as a source, you can install it by just doing: urpmi xfce4 link: http://www.eslrahc.com/ One thing I'm not sure of, and maybe Charles can answer this, is whether this will add an option for XFCE4 to your graphical login. I don't use one myself, I highly recommend using a text mode login and starting X from there, in which case it should just be: startxfce4 to start X with XFCE4 as your desktop. Should be a snap then already have charles as a source. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Is this action normal?
This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? -- Regards; Hoyt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:06:45 +0100 Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are not using Lookout! -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 11:34:24 up 6 days, 16:57, 7 users, load average: 1.61, 1.42, 1.32 +++ Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth. -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 10:06, Tony S. Sykes wrote: This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? Thanks Tony I just knew it had to be something like that. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 10:36, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:06:45 +0100 Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are not using Lookout! I think its mdkkdm, thats what I needed to know maybe I can fix it now. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Is this action normal?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JoeHill Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Is this action normal? On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:06:45 +0100 Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are not using Lookout! -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 11:34:24 up 6 days, 16:57, 7 users, load average: 1.61, 1.42, 1.32 +++ Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth. -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry The usual apologies but I am forced to use this during work hours. On a side note though my company have finally decided to stop peddling Sco to our Customers and are now going to recommend Linux, down side they are recommending Red Hat. My company runs all our software off Progress Databases and Mandrake is not certified. But at least it is a step in the right direction. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:50:02 +0100 Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: The usual apologies but I am forced to use this during work hours. On a side note though my company have finally decided to stop peddling Sco to our Customers and are now going to recommend Linux, down side they are recommending Red Hat. My company runs all our software off Progress Databases and Mandrake is not certified. But at least it is a step in the right direction. No need for apologies, quite the contrary, you have my sympathy ;-) Good news about SCO though, and hey, however we may feel about Red Hat, it's a step in the right direction, no? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 12:10:46 up 6 days, 17:34, 7 users, load average: 1.46, 1.43, 1.43 +++ If I said yes, that would then suggest that that might be the only place where it might be done which would not be accurate ... necessarily accurate ... it might also not be inaccurate, but I mean ... I'm disinclined to mislead anyone. -- Donald Rumsfeld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:52:57 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: I think its mdkkdm, thats what I needed to know maybe I can fix it now. This happens in KDE?! I had no idea KDE could even be configured to use viewports... Or, if it's not KDE, what WM/DE are you using? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 12:13:16 up 6 days, 17:36, 7 users, load average: 1.22, 1.32, 1.38 +++ Well, he might as well have been bombing Denmark. -- Gore Vidal, on the bombing of Afghanistan after 9/11 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 11:14, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:52:57 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: I think its mdkkdm, thats what I needed to know maybe I can fix it now. This happens in KDE?! I had no idea KDE could even be configured to use viewports... Or, if it's not KDE, what WM/DE are you using? Yes its kde3 and I beleive mdkkdm. I dont know about viewports or WM/DE. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are not using Lookout! There is also a setting in the X config file that controls how hard you have to try to move the mouse off the edge before it switches. I think it is called something like edge effect. I remember playing with it a few years ago. You can have anything from just bumping the edge to so hard it has the effect of turning it off. It can be handy if you set it right for the way you move the mouse... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
