Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
Thanks to everyone for your help concerning this subject. -- Marshall Lake -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mlake.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 03:47, Eileen Lopp wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Lake Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing I have version 9.0 of Mandrake. My hardware is an HP Media Center 873n. I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to co-exist. I understand it's better to have Windows already installed when you try to install Mandrake. Is this correct? During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning time I have three choices (paraphrasing): 1. Erase entire disk. 2. Use the free space on a Windows partition. 3. Custom partitioning. The biggest problem here is that you're using an HP-provided disk to install XP. HP ships restore or recovery disks, not install disks with their systems. You aren't actually installing XP with that disk, you're copying a drive image, which is why you don't get any options when running it. Contact HP support and demand a real install disk -- they'll send one if you insist on it. Failing that,it's probably worth investing in Partition Magic - makes it simple to resize and shift XP partitions around and convert a data partition from NTFS to FAT32 so that it's writable from Linux. Have the space above the XP partitions Unallocated and install Mandrake 9.0 in the unallocated space. Install LILO boot loader and you should be able to boot to XP or to Linux OK. -- Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
Hi Just a quick note! Although partition magic is extremely powerful and easy to use, it can cost you a buck or two. There are many alternative including 'line command' option which you can find instructions to in WinXP help. Also try Kazaa for partition magic (if I dare suggest that). Good luck Oren -Original Message- From: Douglas B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2003 10:45 To: Beginners' Mailing List Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 03:47, Eileen Lopp wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Lake Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing I have version 9.0 of Mandrake. My hardware is an HP Media Center 873n. I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to co-exist. I understand it's better to have Windows already installed when you try to install Mandrake. Is this correct? During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning time I have three choices (paraphrasing): 1. Erase entire disk. 2. Use the free space on a Windows partition. 3. Custom partitioning. The biggest problem here is that you're using an HP-provided disk to install XP. HP ships restore or recovery disks, not install disks with their systems. You aren't actually installing XP with that disk, you're copying a drive image, which is why you don't get any options when running it. Contact HP support and demand a real install disk -- they'll send one if you insist on it. Failing that,it's probably worth investing in Partition Magic - makes it simple to resize and shift XP partitions around and convert a data partition from NTFS to FAT32 so that it's writable from Linux. Have the space above the XP partitions Unallocated and install Mandrake 9.0 in the unallocated space. Install LILO boot loader and you should be able to boot to XP or to Linux OK. -- Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email Disclaimer This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, or from one of the companies within its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 22:29, Tsur, Oren wrote: Hi Just a quick note! Although partition magic is extremely powerful and easy to use, it can cost you a buck or two. There are many alternative including 'line command' option which you can find instructions to in WinXP help. Also try Kazaa for partition magic (if I dare suggest that). Good luck Oren There are demo versions of Partition Magic floating around - you can always try the PowerQuest website for it - luckily, I've got Partition Magic complete sets from version 3 upwards to version 8 (grin) - just the luck of the industry I'm in, I reckon... -- Fri Mar 14 22:50:00 EST 2003 22:50:00 up 4:20, 4 users, load average: 0.45, 0.45, 0.47 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** And remember: Evil will always prevail, because Good is dumb. -- Spaceballs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
Stephen Kuhn wrote: There are demo versions of Partition Magic floating around - you can always try the PowerQuest website for it - luckily, I've got Partition Magic complete sets from version 3 upwards to version 8 (grin) - just the luck of the industry I'm in, I reckon... and there's a shareware offering (a work-a-like) called 'Bootit NG'. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
Hi I am no expert so if this look like rubbish to you please ignore... If you install through 'expert' you should be able to partition your disk (using diskdrak - or was it the other way around). After resizing your windows partition you should be able to install mandrake no problems. See the Demos on the Mandrake-Linux site http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/ They are really helpful! Oren -Original Message- From: Marshall Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing I have version 9.0 of Mandrake. My hardware is an HP Media Center 873n. I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to co-exist. I understand it's better to have Windows already installed when you try to install Mandrake. Is this correct? During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning time I have three choices (paraphrasing): 1. Erase entire disk. 2. Use the free space on a Windows partition. 3. Custom partitioning. Selecting option 2 fails. If I select option 3 Mandrake installs all right but trying to boot XP afterwards fails. From the little investigation I've done it seems that maybe I should be installing Windows into a small partition to begin with. But I don't see that the Windows installation process allows me to do that. Another possibility is shrinking the Windows partition before trying to install Mandrake. I'm completely Microsoft and Windows ignorant. Is there a freeware program that will allow me to shrink the Windows partition? Besides the above possibilities, is there something else I can do? -- Marshall Lake -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mlake.net Email Disclaimer This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, or from one of the companies within its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
Hi I am no expert so if this look like rubbish to you please ignore... If you install through 'expert' you should be able to partition your disk (using diskdrak - or was it the other way around). After resizing your windows partition you should be able to install mandrake no problems. See the Demos on the Mandrake-Linux site http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/ They are really helpful! Oren -Original Message- From: Marshall Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing I have version 9.0 of Mandrake. My hardware is an HP Media Center 873n. I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to co-exist. I understand it's better to have Windows already installed when you try to install Mandrake. Is this correct? During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning time I have three choices (paraphrasing): 1. Erase entire disk. 2. Use the free space on a Windows partition. 3. Custom partitioning. Selecting option 2 fails. If I select option 3 Mandrake installs all right but trying to boot XP afterwards fails. From the little investigation I've done it seems that maybe I should be installing Windows into a small partition to begin with. But I don't see that the Windows installation process allows me to do that. Another possibility is shrinking the Windows partition before trying to install Mandrake. I'm completely Microsoft and Windows ignorant. Is there a freeware program that will allow me to shrink the Windows partition? Besides the above possibilities, is there something else I can do? -- Marshall Lake -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mlake.net Email Disclaimer This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, or from one of the companies within its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
I am not all that Linux saavy, but I do knwo a thing or two about Windows. Since it looks like you need to reinstall XP anyways, you may want to start from there. During XP setup you can delete existing partitions and then instead of installing XP to an empty unpartitioned hard drive (which will automatically claim the entire drive for you in a single partition) you can create a partitoin and specify its size, and then install there. Once you do that your options when installing Mandrake seem to open up and getting Mandrake onto the remaining space is quite easy. This is how I installed Mandrake over XP and it worked fine. B Marshall Lake wrote: I have version 9.0 of Mandrake. My hardware is an HP Media Center 873n. I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to co-exist. I understand it's better to have Windows already installed when you try to install Mandrake. Is this correct? During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning time I have three choices (paraphrasing): 1. Erase entire disk. 2. Use the free space on a Windows partition. 3. Custom partitioning. Selecting option 2 fails. If I select option 3 Mandrake installs all right but trying to boot XP afterwards fails. From the little investigation I've done it seems that maybe I should be installing Windows into a small partition to begin with. But I don't see that the Windows installation process allows me to do that. Another possibility is shrinking the Windows partition before trying to install Mandrake. I'm completely Microsoft and Windows ignorant. Is there a freeware program that will allow me to shrink the Windows partition? Besides the above possibilities, is there something else I can do? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
Marshall Lake wrote: Besides the above possibilities, is there something else I can do? fips will reduce a fat32. do not know about other oos type. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 02:05, Marshall Lake wrote: I have version 9.0 of Mandrake. My hardware is an HP Media Center 873n. I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to co-exist. I understand it's better to have Windows already installed when you try to install Mandrake. Is this correct? By far, installing Windows and making sure it's on a FAT32 partition is the best choice for compatibility and sharing data between the two OS's. By installing XP first (or any version of Winblows thereof) you're at least making sure that it's not going to frig up your partition tables - installing XP AFTER you install any distro of linux is going to be a headache - in a bad bad way. During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning time I have three choices (paraphrasing): 1. Erase entire disk. 2. Use the free space on a Windows partition. 3. Custom partitioning. Selecting option 2 fails. If I select option 3 Mandrake installs all right but trying to boot XP afterwards fails. From the little investigation I've done it seems that maybe I should be installing Windows into a small partition to begin with. But I don't see that the Windows installation process allows me to do that. Another possibility is shrinking the Windows partition before trying to install Mandrake. I'm completely Microsoft and Windows ignorant. Is there a freeware program that will allow me to shrink the Windows partition? Besides the above possibilities, is there something else I can do? If you have the ability to install Windows and then move that partition to the end of the disk (using like Partition Magic or something similar to do so) you're ensuring that the freespace before the Windows installation is going to be for your beloved linux. Also, but putting your linux partitions (or at least the boot partition) in front of the Windows partition, should you hose up the disk, at least you can access SOMETHING of your installation... -- Fri Mar 14 07:55:00 EST 2003 07:55:00 up 1 day, 17:18, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.15 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** It seems there's this magician working one of the luxury cruise ships for a few years. He doesn't have to change his routines much as the audiences change over fairly often, and he's got a good life. The only problem is the ship's parrot, who perches in the hall and watches him night after night, year after year. Finally, the parrot figures out how almost every trick works and starts giving it away for the audience. For example, when the magician makes a bouquet of flowers disappear, the parrot squawks Behind his back! Behind his back! Well, the magician is really annoyed at this, but there's not much he can do about it as the parrot is a ship's mascot and very popular with the passengers. One night, the ship strikes some floating debris, and sinks without a trace. Almost everyone aboard was lost, except for the magician and the parrot. For three days and nights they just drift, with the magician clinging to one end of a piece of driftwood and the parrot perched on the other end. As the sun rises on the morning of the fourth day, the parrot walks over to the magician's end of the log. With obvious disgust in his voice, he snaps OK, you win, I give up. Where did you hide the ship? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Lake Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing I have version 9.0 of Mandrake. My hardware is an HP Media Center 873n. I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to co-exist. I understand it's better to have Windows already installed when you try to install Mandrake. Is this correct? During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning time I have three choices (paraphrasing): 1. Erase entire disk. 2. Use the free space on a Windows partition. 3. Custom partitioning. Selecting option 2 fails. If I select option 3 Mandrake installs all right but trying to boot XP afterwards fails. From the little investigation I've done it seems that maybe I should be installing Windows into a small partition to begin with. But I don't see that the Windows installation process allows me to do that. Another possibility is shrinking the Windows partition before trying to install Mandrake. I'm completely Microsoft and Windows ignorant. Is there a freeware program that will allow me to shrink the Windows partition? Besides the above possibilities, is there something else I can do? -- Marshall Lake -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mlake.net The biggest problem here is that you're using an HP-provided disk to install XP. HP ships restore or recovery disks, not install disks with their systems. You aren't actually installing XP with that disk, you're copying a drive image, which is why you don't get any options when running it. Contact HP support and demand a real install disk -- they'll send one if you insist on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
