Re: [newbie] New kernel .. tips?

2002-02-08 Thread Damian G


Thank you all very much. i will try the RPM's out !!  
wish me luck ;oP

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Re: [newbie] New kernel .. tips?

2002-02-07 Thread ai4a

Damian G wrote:
 
 Hello once more, everyone. I'd like to hear some opinions about this.. i'm
 completely open so suggestions and comments about it... i know i need them..
 
 The howto's i've found out there do not clear all of my doubts..
 
 i've read on this list that 2.4.17 is a pretty efficient/fast kernel that
 solves those virtual memory problems older 2.4 kernels had.
 so i went to kernel.org and downloaded the source for it.
 
 my OS is pretty much the way it comes in mandrake 8.1 -the download cd's (
 2.4.8 kernel )
 
 now... what i'm i supposed to know before i start with this one? i'm going
 to back up
 my whole /boot before starting... but is there any other stuff i have to
 upgrade
 along with the kernel? any parameters to the ./configure ? is using a simple
 make allright?
 
 TIA very much, again. ;o)
 
 Damian.
 
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What is your objective? The kernel from kernel.org will not have the
mandrake patches in them. If your want a new kernel why not use one make
for Mandrake? Go to a cooker mirror site and down load the latest cooker
(beta code) kernel rpms. You will also need to download the latest
iptable rpm if you use iptables. I have installed kernel-2.4.17-14mdk
and it works fine for me. But your mileage may vary. DO NOT use mandrake
update to install the kernel rpm. There is an article on the Mandrake
forum about this. You can KEEP your old kernel on your system so you can
have a fall back kernel if the new kernel has problems. If you need
additional help in this area I will tell you how I did it. It is very
easy to do. Also if you want to compile a kernel, I will explain how I
recompiled kernel-2.4.17-14mdk. I did not gain anything much by
recompiling it except knowledge. Let me know if you would like
additional help. HTH
Charles



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RE: [newbie] New kernel .. tips?

2002-02-07 Thread Hanan Z. Shargi

If you need
additional help in this area I will tell you how I did it. It is very
easy to do. Also if you want to compile a kernel, I will explain how I
recompiled kernel-2.4.17-14mdk. I did not gain anything much by
recompiling it except knowledge. Let me know if you would like
additional help. HTH
Charles


Charles,

I dont know if Damian needs help explaining how to upgrade the kernel, but 
some others DO ():-) 
So, please go ahead and explain, it sure would us gain some knowledge too .

Regards.

Hana




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RE: [newbie] New kernel .. tips?

2002-02-07 Thread Eric McClure

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Hanan Z. Shargi wrote:
Same here Charles, i think the command to remove the old kernel is rpm -e
kernel.whatever.rpm and do a lilo #

thanks,
eric l. mcclure
 If you need
 additional help in this area I will tell you how I did it. It is very
 easy to do. Also if you want to compile a kernel, I will explain how I
 recompiled kernel-2.4.17-14mdk. I did not gain anything much by
 recompiling it except knowledge. Let me know if you would like
 additional help. HTH
 Charles
 
 
 Charles,
 
 I dont know if Damian needs help explaining how to upgrade the kernel, but 
 some others DO ():-) 
 So, please go ahead and explain, it sure would us gain some knowledge too .
 
 Regards.
 
 Hana
 
 
 




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Re: [newbie] New kernel .. tips?

2002-02-07 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

There's an excellent tutorial at
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/index.html#ku. If you have Mandrake's
documentation installed (look for a mandrake_doc-en package for English) look at
/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/ref.html/compiling.html.


On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:45:38 -0500, ai4a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Damian G wrote:
  
  Hello once more, everyone. I'd like to hear some opinions about this.. i'm
  completely open so suggestions and comments about it... i know i need them..
  
  The howto's i've found out there do not clear all of my doubts..
  
  i've read on this list that 2.4.17 is a pretty efficient/fast kernel that
  solves those virtual memory problems older 2.4 kernels had.
  so i went to kernel.org and downloaded the source for it.
  
  my OS is pretty much the way it comes in mandrake 8.1 -the download cd's (
  2.4.8 kernel )
  
  now... what i'm i supposed to know before i start with this one? i'm going
  to back up
  my whole /boot before starting... but is there any other stuff i have to
  upgrade
  along with the kernel? any parameters to the ./configure ? is using a simple
  make allright?

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected
-- The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972



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Re: [newbie] New kernel .. tips?

2002-02-07 Thread ai4a

Eric McClure wrote:
 
 On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Hanan Z. Shargi wrote:
 Same here Charles, i think the command to remove the old kernel is rpm -e
 kernel.whatever.rpm and do a lilo #
 
 thanks,
 eric l. mcclure
  If you need
  additional help in this area I will tell you how I did it. It is very
  easy to do. Also if you want to compile a kernel, I will explain how I
  recompiled kernel-2.4.17-14mdk. I did not gain anything much by
  recompiling it except knowledge. Let me know if you would like
  additional help. HTH
  Charles
 
 
  Charles,
 
  I dont know if Damian needs help explaining how to upgrade the kernel, but
  some others DO ():-)
  So, please go ahead and explain, it sure would us gain some knowledge too .
 
  Regards.
 
  Hana
 
 
 
 
   
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DO NOT remove the old kernel. Save it for a backup. You can have as many
kernels as you want (kernels with the same name (release #) require a
little more 'white magic'). They will not interfere with each other. By
the way, I am no expert on linux, but I have found all this on the
internet, and it works. It is very simple and VERY safe.

BEFORE you start updating the kernel do the following (if you use lilo):
  edit /etc/lilo.config and add a new image entry- such as
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.8-10mdk (or whatever your old kernel is
 label=vmlinuz.old
 root=/boot/hda5 (or where ever your root
partition is)
 add the rest of the parameters that is in the image entry for
vmlinuz
  
  save lilo.config then exit your editor.
  execute lilo (In a terminal window (as root) type lilo)

Reboot your computer and test the new entry by selecting 'vmlinuz.old'
at the boot screen.
Now when you install a new kernel, if it does not work you can boot the
old kernel.

Download the new kernel rpms (maybe from a cooker mirror site). This is
beta code. 
  kernel-2.4.17-14mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
I think the rest of the rpms are needed only if you want to compile
something (kernel) or for   debugging. But the doc and
header rpms are not very large. It maybe a good idea to get them while
you   can. 
  kernel-doc-2.4.17-14mdk...If you want them.
  kernel-headers-2.4.17-23mdk... If you want them
  kernel-2.4.17-13mdk...If you need want to recompile the
kernel. I do not know why the difference 
between 2.4.17-14 and 2.4.17-13)
  I have read we need new initscripts, But I could not install them
because of dependiences problems. My  system works without them???
  DO NOT forget to download a new iptable rpm if you are using iptables.

Put the new rpms in a separate directory. In a terminal window (as root)
cd to this new directory. Enter the following command:
 rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.17-14mdh-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

Check lilo.config. It should point to the new kernel.

Reboot you computer. The new kernel should boot. If you have problems
booting the new kernel, reboot using the old kernel.

Do a google search 'Mandrake kernel update'. There are lots of info
about this out there.
 HTH
Charles



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