Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
Thanks for the correction, I will continue to use PM anyway. I AM a newbie and was under the impression that the fdisk that came with dos and windows was a diferent creature than the fdisk that came with mandrake or other linux distros. Eric MC DECLERCK wrote: I'm sorry, but I can't agreed with this. The dos FDISK is a very usefull prog used further with DISKDRUID. This is what I use.Had never and never pbs with it. Eric Ed Tharp wrote: NOT do not attempt to use dos or windows version of FDISK.either use diskdrake or PartitionMagic that comes with mandrake... dos or windows fdisk will not create a usable linux partition. in fact, they can not even get rid of the linux partition - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Ok, Chris. So now, tell me if I am wrong: First I will fdisk (DOS/Win98) my hd like this !-ext dos (15mb)-!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! I don't know if this can be done and if Win98 will be able to boot (having a extended dos partition before the primary one). After that I will boot with Mandrake CD and erase the first ext dos partition (15mb) to make a new linux /boot partition. !--/boot--!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! Am I a little bit right? Thanks!! Hugo GONZALEZ -Original Message- From: Chris Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux I had this same problem with Red Hat 6.1 a few months back. I fixed the problem by having a 15mb boot partition as hda1, win98 on a 10gb on hda2, and then a 10gb linux partition on hda3. Lilo worked fine like that to. - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!--- -Linux--- -! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-- ---Linux- -! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
You can always do the install and boot Linux from a floppy or upgrade to 7.1 and use GRUB as the bootloader. It does not suffer from the 1024 error.You can also move Windows to the end of the drive, it will boot from anywhere and install Mandrake on the first 10GB. One other note. You did not say what brand hd or which tool you used to formatt. If you used a floppy supplied with the drive then you will most likly get the 1024 error regardless of where you install LILO. Charles - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!Linux--- -! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-Linux- -! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ Hugo, This is very easy to fix. When you're doing the install and you're partition your HDD for Linux make these partitions. "/boot" = 10Meg "/" (your 'root' partition) = HOwever big your you want according to physical limits SWAP partition = 200 - 300 Meg that's really all there is to it. -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
Install Mandrake, skip Lilo setup, be sure to have Drak make a boot disk for you, load Linux with the boot disk, download the new version of Lilo, edit your /etc/lilo.conf file, install the new version of Lilo, run Lilo as follows: lilo -L -v The -L switch enables the new Lilo's LMB function and takes care of the 1024 problem. - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 10:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!Linux--- -! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-Linux- -! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ
RE: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: First I will fdisk (DOS/Win98) my hd like this !-ext dos (15mb)-!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! I don't know if this can be done and if Win98 will be able to boot (having a extended dos partition before the primary one). After that I This should normally be possible, don't know if Fdisk allows you to do it. will boot with Mandrake CD and erase the first ext dos partition (15mb) to make a new linux /boot partition. !--/boot--!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! Am I a little bit right? That is the way to work! Paul -- Don't be among people always. Learn to listen to your silence. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
NOT do not attempt to use dos or windows version of FDISK.either use diskdrake or PartitionMagic that comes with mandrake... dos or windows fdisk will not create a usable linux partition. in fact, they can not even get rid of the linux partition - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Ok, Chris. So now, tell me if I am wrong: First I will fdisk (DOS/Win98) my hd like this !-ext dos (15mb)-!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! I don't know if this can be done and if Win98 will be able to boot (having a extended dos partition before the primary one). After that I will boot with Mandrake CD and erase the first ext dos partition (15mb) to make a new linux /boot partition. !--/boot--!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! Am I a little bit right? Thanks!! Hugo GONZALEZ -Original Message- From: Chris Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux I had this same problem with Red Hat 6.1 a few months back. I fixed the problem by having a 15mb boot partition as hda1, win98 on a 10gb on hda2, and then a 10gb linux partition on hda3. Lilo worked fine like that to. - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!--- -Linux--- -! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-- ---Linux- -! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
I had this same problem with Red Hat 6.1 a few months back. I fixed the problem by having a 15mb boot partition as hda1, win98 on a 10gb on hda2, and then a 10gb linux partition on hda3. Lilo worked fine like that to. - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!Linux--- -! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-Linux- -! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!Linux! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-Linux--! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ Hugo, This is very easy to fix. When you're doing the install and you're partition your HDD for Linux make these partitions. "/boot" = 10Meg "/" (your 'root' partition) = HOwever big your you want according to physical limits SWAP partition = 200 - 300 Meg that's really all there is to it. -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
Cut down your VFAT partition to 8Gigs and try the install again. Seve -Original Message- From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, June 23, 2000 10:02 AM Subject: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!Linux! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-Linux--! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
I think that you should go with the second scheme. (I heard that Mandrake 7.1 solves this problem, though) Anyway the /boot partition shouldnt be too large either... Somebody more knowledgeble than me should be able to tell you how big (10megs?) Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!Linux! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-Linux--! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ -- --- Jose Alberto Abreu Bending space and time since 2053 ---
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
That sounds good but if I was you I wouldn't use Dos Fdisk. I would use the partition program that came with Mandrake. It is SO much more powerful. Using the mandrake partitioning tool do this: Create a /boot partition on hda1. Create a DOS/Windows partition on hda2 Then a linux native partition on hda3. Then if you want a swap you can add it anywhere. But you HAVE to install windows 98 first. And use the grub bootloader. IMO its much more user friendly. :) Feel free to ask if you have other questions. - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Ok, Chris. So now, tell me if I am wrong: First I will fdisk (DOS/Win98) my hd like this !-ext dos (15mb)-!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! I don't know if this can be done and if Win98 will be able to boot (having a extended dos partition before the primary one). After that I will boot with Mandrake CD and erase the first ext dos partition (15mb) to make a new linux /boot partition. !--/boot--!!--pri dos for Win98(10Gb)--!!--Linux(10Gb)-! Am I a little bit right? Thanks!! Hugo GONZALEZ -Original Message- From: Chris Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux I had this same problem with Red Hat 6.1 a few months back. I fixed the problem by having a 15mb boot partition as hda1, win98 on a 10gb on hda2, and then a 10gb linux partition on hda3. Lilo worked fine like that to. - Original Message - From: Hugo GONZALEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!--- -Linux--- -! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-- ---Linux- -! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ
Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux
I'd do a 15mb boot partition. That way you can store many kernels there. :-) - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Abreu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitioning for Win98 and Linux I think that you should go with the second scheme. (I heard that Mandrake 7.1 solves this problem, though) Anyway the /boot partition shouldnt be too large either... Somebody more knowledgeble than me should be able to tell you how big (10megs?) Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: Hello everyone. I had installed Mandrake 7.0 as the single OS on my box. No problem at all. Then my HD physically crashed and I installed a new one with Windows 98. This new hd is 20Gb big, and initially, when installing Win98 I left only a partition of 10Gb (9.x Gb), the rest of the disk would be for Linux. Then I tried to install Mandrake, but DrakX told me that the partition for Linux is beyond the cylinder 1024, so I quit installation. I surfed the internet to read some howtos, but my confusion grew larger. My question is: can I install Linux without making a /boot partition within the cylinder 1024? Can I keep my hd like !Win98(10Gb)--!!Linux--- -! or should I go to something like !-/boot-!!-Win98---!!-Linux- -! Please, if you'd be so kind to clarify this to me. Thanks in advance. Hugo GONZALEZ -- --- Jose Alberto Abreu Bending space and time since 2053 ---
