RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
Since Mr. Sanchez feels that my question of if this was possible on a Linux machine is not for this list, I guess I will end the thread. Perhaps Mr. Sanchez feels that I have no business on the list either. To everyone who offered suggestions and help, thank you for your time and service. But I do not have time or desire to be told to get off a list that is supposed to be here for asking help. Maybe I am not enough of a geek. So I will leave this to you and hope each and everyone of you have a good day and a great life. Happy computing. On Tue, 10 July 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: This really should be off this list since you are not in a Linux realm anymore... What you probably want is Win2K running either Terminal Server or Citrix/Terminal Server. I've set up systems so that you can PC-Anywhere in to perform a soft boot if Terminal server chokes, and also reboot a hung machine remotely with hardware dialup devices. If you keep the APP count low, terminal server (and/or Citrix) does a decent job. If this is the only program you need up, you'll have pretty good luck. Users would be able to dial in directly or access the applications via the web once authenticated, using the ICA clients. The ICA clients (which are available for Linux BTW) require fairly low end machines, so they can just about run on any old computer with a mouse and floppy drive. Yes Linux is a MILLION times better at this type of scenario, and cheaper, but you are not talking about running Linux native apps. VMWARE has WAY too much overhead for multiple users. Wine doesn't cut it either for this purpose. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
I would hope you would not take offence to the remarks on this list. some times when presented with an obstical with no obvious personal enrichment, some folks feel a need to speek of the top of their heads. I am sure no personal derogotory statment was intended. after thinking about your problem, it may well be possible to use VNC and MANDRAKE and WIN4LIN to make the program run. It may also be almost as easy to write a datebase program to run in MySQL with Apache and set up a webpage to perl and cgi script the page to do what you want. I can only speak for myself, but a newbie list is not necessarly for geeks. and heck feel free to keep my address and write me off list if you feel better about it, and we can communicate about any thing computer you would like (Please note.. i ain't no ex-spurt, just an over the hill, wanna-be geek.) On Wednesday 11 July 2001 07:53, Boliver Allmon wrote: Since Mr. Sanchez feels that my question of if this was possible on a Linux machine is not for this list, I guess I will end the thread. Perhaps Mr. Sanchez feels that I have no business on the list either. To everyone who offered suggestions and help, thank you for your time and service. But I do not have time or desire to be told to get off a list that is supposed to be here for asking help. Maybe I am not enough of a geek. So I will leave this to you and hope each and everyone of you have a good day and a great life. Happy computing. On Tue, 10 July 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: This really should be off this list since you are not in a Linux realm anymore... What you probably want is Win2K running either Terminal Server or Citrix/Terminal Server. I've set up systems so that you can PC-Anywhere in to perform a soft boot if Terminal server chokes, and also reboot a hung machine remotely with hardware dialup devices. If you keep the APP count low, terminal server (and/or Citrix) does a decent job. If this is the only program you need up, you'll have pretty good luck. Users would be able to dial in directly or access the applications via the web once authenticated, using the ICA clients. The ICA clients (which are available for Linux BTW) require fairly low end machines, so they can just about run on any old computer with a mouse and floppy drive. Yes Linux is a MILLION times better at this type of scenario, and cheaper, but you are not talking about running Linux native apps. VMWARE has WAY too much overhead for multiple users. Wine doesn't cut it either for this purpose. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money
RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
Since Mr. Sanchez feels that my question of if this was possible on a Linux machine is not for this list, I guess I will end the thread. Perhaps Mr. Sanchez feels that I have no business on the list either. Eh, you take offence much too easily, seeing dragons where none exist. I mentioned that Windows questions are inappropriate for a Linux oriented list, so my response (which provides you with the answer you were seeking btw...) should have been thru private mails. This was an opening for you to take advantage of, instead of criticizing. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine Since Mr. Sanchez feels that my question of if this was possible on a Linux machine is not for this list, I guess I will end the thread. Perhaps Mr. Sanchez feels that I have no business on the list either.
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
What you failed to say was that this is a WINDOWS program you are trying to run in Linux... Nope. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
This really should be off this list since you are not in a Linux realm anymore... What you probably want is Win2K running either Terminal Server or Citrix/Terminal Server. I've set up systems so that you can PC-Anywhere in to perform a soft boot if Terminal server chokes, and also reboot a hung machine remotely with hardware dialup devices. If you keep the APP count low, terminal server (and/or Citrix) does a decent job. If this is the only program you need up, you'll have pretty good luck. Users would be able to dial in directly or access the applications via the web once authenticated, using the ICA clients. The ICA clients (which are available for Linux BTW) require fairly low end machines, so they can just about run on any old computer with a mouse and floppy drive. Yes Linux is a MILLION times better at this type of scenario, and cheaper, but you are not talking about running Linux native apps. VMWARE has WAY too much overhead for multiple users. Wine doesn't cut it either for this purpose. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
Got vnc :http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ - Original Message - From: Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
- Original Message - From: Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
