Re: [newbie] backup system

2002-09-26 Thread Alastair Scott

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 00:31:24 + robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Depends on what your backup needs are.  If they're extensive, run a 
 search on any Linux software site for solutions; if they're simple, just 
 write a little script to do the job using tar.  The simplest would just 
 be to tar and zip all home directories, then ftp to another computer or 
 move to a backup device such as a zip drive.  The following, for 
 example, would back up all home directories to another machine (assuming 
 you have ncftp installed, which I wholeheartedly recommend - it's far 
 and away my favourite ftp client).
 
 tar  zcf  - /home  |  ncftpput  -c  -X /home/me/junk 
 anotherbox.mycompany.com /home/me/backup.tar.gz
 
 In this case /home/me/junk is a file listing the types of file that you 
 don't want included (you probably don't want to back up everybody's 
 Netscape cache, for example).  See man ncftpput for details.

And, in 9.0, there's drakbackup, which is very comprehensive - backing up
appropriate system files and directories plus those of no, any, or all users
to CD, tape, network or HD. (It even incorporates tricks such as not backing
up browser caches ...).

Alastair



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



Re: [newbie] backup system

2002-09-25 Thread Alastair Scott

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:31:14 -0700 Schwenk, Jeanie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a recommended backup system for mandrake?  We use legato on all our
 other operating systems here but I was just informed by our sysadmin that
 linux-mandrake is not supported.   I need a backup system because my linux
 machine is now utilized by everyone in our department and the database is
 growing.  Can't afford to lose this data.  

The usual Free Software suspect is amanda:

http://www.amanda.org/

There are Mandrake packages in contribs, for example:

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS/

(amanda-client ... and amanda-server ...).

If you want something commercial bru (which I used 12 years ago on SunOS!) is the way 
to go:

http://www.tolisgroup.com/

Alastair



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



Re: [newbie] backup system

2002-09-25 Thread robin

Schwenk, Jeanie wrote:

Is there a recommended backup system for mandrake?  We use legato on all our
other operating systems here but I was just informed by our sysadmin that
linux-mandrake is not supported.   I need a backup system because my linux
machine is now utilized by everyone in our department and the database is
growing.  Can't afford to lose this data.  

Jeanie

Depends on what your backup needs are.  If they're extensive, run a 
search on any Linux software site for solutions; if they're simple, just 
write a little script to do the job using tar.  The simplest would just 
be to tar and zip all home directories, then ftp to another computer or 
move to a backup device such as a zip drive.  The following, for 
example, would back up all home directories to another machine (assuming 
you have ncftp installed, which I wholeheartedly recommend - it's far 
and away my favourite ftp client).

tar  zcf  - /home  |  ncftpput  -c  -X /home/me/junk 
anotherbox.mycompany.com /home/me/backup.tar.gz

In this case /home/me/junk is a file listing the types of file that you 
don't want included (you probably don't want to back up everybody's 
Netscape cache, for example).  See man ncftpput for details.

Sir Robin

__
This is Linux country.  On a quiet night, you can hear NT re-boot. 
  

LOL

  

-- 
Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans.
It's lovely to be silly at the right moment - Horace

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Üniversitesi
Ankara 06533

http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin






Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



RE: [newbie] backup system

2002-09-25 Thread Schwenk, Jeanie

There are literally hundreds of solutions out there ... a quick search at
sourceforge is what prompted me to post in hopes of finding a backup utility
quickly.  Unfortunately many are alpha or beta releases.  And it take quite
a bit of time to wade through all the hits.

Currently we have only one linux machine (sad isn't it, but I am working on
it).  Today the sysadmin was supposed to install legato's backup system ...
then he read the documentation and mandrake-linux is not supported.  I've
got a big fat tarball on a machine that is backed up so I have that at
least.  

I was hoping to find a backup system that did incremental backup and is
preferably client-server.  A nice interface would be nice.  It's pretty hard
to convince windows junkies that a non-gui based piece of software is worth
using.  

Still reading ...

Jeanie

-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] backup system


Schwenk, Jeanie wrote:

Is there a recommended backup system for mandrake?  We use legato on all
our
other operating systems here but I was just informed by our sysadmin that
linux-mandrake is not supported.   I need a backup system because my linux
machine is now utilized by everyone in our department and the database is
growing.  Can't afford to lose this data.  

Jeanie

Depends on what your backup needs are.  If they're extensive, run a 
search on any Linux software site for solutions; if they're simple, just 
write a little script to do the job using tar.  The simplest would just 
be to tar and zip all home directories, then ftp to another computer or 
move to a backup device such as a zip drive.  The following, for 
example, would back up all home directories to another machine (assuming 
you have ncftp installed, which I wholeheartedly recommend - it's far 
and away my favourite ftp client).

tar  zcf  - /home  |  ncftpput  -c  -X /home/me/junk 
anotherbox.mycompany.com /home/me/backup.tar.gz

In this case /home/me/junk is a file listing the types of file that you 
don't want included (you probably don't want to back up everybody's 
Netscape cache, for example).  See man ncftpput for details.

Sir Robin

__
This is Linux country.  On a quiet night, you can hear NT re-boot. 
  

LOL

  

-- 
Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans.
It's lovely to be silly at the right moment - Horace

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Üniversitesi
Ankara 06533

http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin







Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



RE: [newbie] backup system

2002-09-25 Thread Rick Friedman

Might I suggest you take a look at Mondoarchive? Check out the website
at http://www.mondorescue.com.

With it, you can run differential backups as well as incremental.

Rick

On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 17:45, Schwenk, Jeanie wrote:
 There are literally hundreds of solutions out there ... a quick search at
 sourceforge is what prompted me to post in hopes of finding a backup utility
 quickly.  Unfortunately many are alpha or beta releases.  And it take quite
 a bit of time to wade through all the hits.
 
 Currently we have only one linux machine (sad isn't it, but I am working on
 it).  Today the sysadmin was supposed to install legato's backup system ...
 then he read the documentation and mandrake-linux is not supported.  I've
 got a big fat tarball on a machine that is backed up so I have that at
 least.  
 
 I was hoping to find a backup system that did incremental backup and is
 preferably client-server.  A nice interface would be nice.  It's pretty hard
 to convince windows junkies that a non-gui based piece of software is worth
 using.  
 
 Still reading ...
 
 Jeanie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] backup system
 
 
 Schwenk, Jeanie wrote:
 
 Is there a recommended backup system for mandrake?  We use legato on all
 our
 other operating systems here but I was just informed by our sysadmin that
 linux-mandrake is not supported.   I need a backup system because my linux
 machine is now utilized by everyone in our department and the database is
 growing.  Can't afford to lose this data.  
 
 Jeanie
 
 Depends on what your backup needs are.  If they're extensive, run a 
 search on any Linux software site for solutions; if they're simple, just 
 write a little script to do the job using tar.  The simplest would just 
 be to tar and zip all home directories, then ftp to another computer or 
 move to a backup device such as a zip drive.  The following, for 
 example, would back up all home directories to another machine (assuming 
 you have ncftp installed, which I wholeheartedly recommend - it's far 
 and away my favourite ftp client).
 
 tar  zcf  - /home  |  ncftpput  -c  -X /home/me/junk 
 anotherbox.mycompany.com /home/me/backup.tar.gz
 
 In this case /home/me/junk is a file listing the types of file that you 
 don't want included (you probably don't want to back up everybody's 
 Netscape cache, for example).  See man ncftpput for details.
 
 Sir Robin
 
 __
 This is Linux country.  On a quiet night, you can hear NT re-boot. 
   
 
 LOL
 
   
 
 -- 
 Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans.
 It's lovely to be silly at the right moment - Horace
 
 Robin Turner
 IDMYO
 Bilkent Üniversitesi
 Ankara 06533
 
 http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com






Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com