RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
I guess there are bunch of win32 SMTP / POP / IMAP clients in the fields, free or not. Just a small look at www.download.com or www.tucows.com would make you happy within 2 minutes. Hth peter -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 12:14 pm, Jim Dawson wrote: > Have you looked at Mozilla Mail? > > I admit earlier versions left something to be desired but in the latest > versions it seems to work pretty good. On top of that Mozilla seems to have > fewer security issues than IE (If your users seem reluctant to use Mozilla > rather than IE just show them how to block pop-up windows and how to use > tabs...) and when and if they ever switch to a non-Microsoft OS they will > already be familliar with the browser and mail applications. > > -Original Message- > From: Kenn Murrah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:49:39 -0800 (PST) > Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? > > Okay, gang ... > > > I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no > small part to the help I've received from this list, I > have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all > is well with the world ... > > > The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers > to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express > are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one > really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble > finding much of anything else. > > > So I was thinking ... > > > Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows > users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that > they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm > rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple > interface that would hopefully keep the troops from > screaming every 3 minutes for help.) > > > And for security's sake, would it be possible to > mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so > that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but > rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? > > > I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and > tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a > mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off > my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right > direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's > the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the > intermediate box ... > > > Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to > tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to > accomplish my goals. > > > thanks, > > > kenn > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com One other mail server not mentioned is Evolution. Looks a lot like outlook. will that work? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 6:14 pm, Jim Dawson wrote: > Have you looked at Mozilla Mail? > > I admit earlier versions left something to be desired but in the latest > versions it seems to work pretty good. On top of that Mozilla seems to have > fewer security issues than IE (If your users seem reluctant to use Mozilla > rather than IE just show them how to block pop-up windows and how to use > tabs...) and when and if they ever switch to a non-Microsoft OS they will > already be familliar with the browser and mail applications. > I've installed Mozilla on 4 windows systems now, and all four users are happy. They find it easy to use (and it has the advantage that it is so similar to the linux version that you always know what they're talking about when the ask a question), and yes, the ability to block pop-ups and use tabs makes it very attractive. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
also, if you apply the IE theme, your users will think they are using IE anyway.. its sorta cool, I can't use it though cos I have mozilla 1.2b and they are not compatable (yet) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Dawson Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2002 2:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Have you looked at Mozilla Mail? I admit earlier versions left something to be desired but in the latest versions it seems to work pretty good. On top of that Mozilla seems to have fewer security issues than IE (If your users seem reluctant to use Mozilla rather than IE just show them how to block pop-up windows and how to use tabs...) and when and if they ever switch to a non-Microsoft OS they will already be familliar with the browser and mail applications. -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:49:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
Have you looked at Mozilla Mail? I admit earlier versions left something to be desired but in the latest versions it seems to work pretty good. On top of that Mozilla seems to have fewer security issues than IE (If your users seem reluctant to use Mozilla rather than IE just show them how to block pop-up windows and how to use tabs...) and when and if they ever switch to a non-Microsoft OS they will already be familliar with the browser and mail applications. -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:49:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
exactly what is your problem with imap and outlook??? As I understand it, imap works well with outlook. give us your versions, (imap) etc and the error details when it doesn't work.,. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 9:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? no, outlook has no problems with pop3, i agree. but in typical corporate fashion, i have one camp insisting that i not outlookexpress, and another group of know-it-alls demanding that i use imap ... so i'm trying to find some solution that more or less pleases everyone ... --- Franki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why not just swap to pop3?? > > I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with > it.. I am writing this mail > on lookout via my linux mail server... > > easier to setup and less crap on the server as a > result. > > rgds > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kenn Murrah > Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ > users??? > > > Okay, gang ... > > > I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no > small part to the help I've received from this list, > I > have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and > all > is well with the world ... > > > The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows > computers > to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express > are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no > one > really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble > finding much of anything else. > > > So I was thinking ... > > > Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows > users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so > that > they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm > rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple > interface that would hopefully keep the troops from > screaming every 3 minutes for help.) > > > And for security's sake, would it be possible to > mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, > so > that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but > rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? > > > I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box > and > tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as > a > mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely > off > my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right > direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's > the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the > intermediate box ... > > > Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to > tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to > accomplish my goals. > > > thanks, > > > kenn > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
no, outlook has no problems with pop3, i agree. but in typical corporate fashion, i have one camp insisting that i not outlookexpress, and another group of know-it-alls demanding that i use imap ... so i'm trying to find some solution that more or less pleases everyone ... --- Franki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why not just swap to pop3?? > > I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with > it.. I am writing this mail > on lookout via my linux mail server... > > easier to setup and less crap on the server as a > result. > > rgds > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kenn Murrah > Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ > users??? > > > Okay, gang ... > > > I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no > small part to the help I've received from this list, > I > have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and > all > is well with the world ... > > > The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows > computers > to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express > are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no > one > really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble > finding much of anything else. > > > So I was thinking ... > > > Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows > users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so > that > they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm > rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple > interface that would hopefully keep the troops from > screaming every 3 minutes for help.) > > > And for security's sake, would it be possible to > mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, > so > that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but > rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? > > > I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box > and > tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as > a > mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely > off > my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right > direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's > the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the > intermediate box ... > > > Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to > tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to > accomplish my goals. > > > thanks, > > > kenn > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
Something else to consider is a Windows client called "Calypso" It's totally free, no adware/spyware, and runs like a charm. Hasn't screwed up once with my customers. Allows for all the normal bells and whistles of Outlook Express, without the hassles. Does a tidy job of avoiding the usual virus traps that plague Outlook Express, and allows for auto-backups. Set this up on 60 Windows clients, with their backups automatically going to their "My Documents" folders on an LM 8.2 server running Samba. Backup of the server is done nightly. Also managed to get around the McAfee Anti-Virus bug that was deleting emails from Outlook Express. Might be simpler than your present course. Just a suggestion. Lanman On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 07:38, Franki wrote: > why not just swap to pop3?? > > I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with it.. I am writing this mail > on lookout via my linux mail server... > > easier to setup and less crap on the server as a result. > > rgds > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah > Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? > > > Okay, gang ... > > > I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no > small part to the help I've received from this list, I > have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all > is well with the world ... > > > The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers > to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express > are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one > really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble > finding much of anything else. > > > So I was thinking ... > > > Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows > users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that > they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm > rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple > interface that would hopefully keep the troops from > screaming every 3 minutes for help.) > > > And for security's sake, would it be possible to > mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so > that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but > rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? > > > I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and > tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a > mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off > my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right > direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's > the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the > intermediate box ... > > > Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to > tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to > accomplish my goals. > > > thanks, > > > kenn > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
why not just swap to pop3?? I know for a fact that outlook has no probs with it.. I am writing this mail on lookout via my linux mail server... easier to setup and less crap on the server as a result. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenn Murrah Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users??? Okay, gang ... I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no small part to the help I've received from this list, I have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all is well with the world ... The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble finding much of anything else. So I was thinking ... Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple interface that would hopefully keep the troops from screaming every 3 minutes for help.) And for security's sake, would it be possible to mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the intermediate box ... Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to accomplish my goals. thanks, kenn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] remote access to mail for m$ users???
Why not a port of a linux client, say a sylpheed windows based application. try here http://claws-w32.sourceforge.net/ Jayme On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:49:39 -0800 (PST) Kenn Murrah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, gang ... > > > I've won most of the battles here ... Thanks in no > small part to the help I've received from this list, I > have a Postfix/IMAP mail server up and running and all > is well with the world ... > > > The rub comes in trying to set up my Windows computers > to access their mail ... Outlook and Outlook Express > are out (per an edict from The Head Boss), and no one > really likes using Eudora ... and I'm having trouble > finding much of anything else. > > > So I was thinking ... > > > Would it be possible (or even practical) for Windows > users to access my server via cygwin/XFree86, so that > they could use a linux mail client instead? (I'm > rather partial toward Evolution, due to its simple > interface that would hopefully keep the troops from > screaming every 3 minutes for help.) > > > And for security's sake, would it be possible to > mirror my EngardeLinux email onto my Mandrake box, so > that I wouldn't have to run X on my EngardeLinux but > rather on a box with no exposure to the Internet? > > > I've already set up cygwin/XFree86 on my test box and > tested its connectivity to the box I hope to use as a > mirror, so if you folks tell me i'm not entirely off > my rocker --- I need you to point me in the right > direction to learn about how to "mirror" (if that's > the correct word here) my EngardeLinux mail to the > intermediate box ... > > > Of course, I'm a "true" newbie here, so feel free to > tell me i'm nuts and suggest a better way to > accomplish my goals. > > > thanks, > > > kenn > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
