Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Friday 31 January 2003 04:41 pm, et wrote: I am glad we don't have the hardware specs any more too... so now I can chime in add more memory Er, didn't notice what anyone had posted about that - was it low? I just assumed (shame on me!) that with Ram so cheap now-a-days, that everybody had stocked up before the next Taiwan factory fire raised prices again. grin -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 01:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 6:30 pm, et wrote: Snipped I would suggest you turn of DNS, caching name server, named, routed and yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to correctly configure them seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as per www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his system leaving the bios set to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and suggested doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can get this thing moving! thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. -iggy DNS, if not configured correctly is one of those things that will sure as hell start a system to crawl, as your box might decide it needs to look on the Internet for //iggy.ISP.com/home/Iggy/fileIneed.txt instead of /home/iggy/fileineed.txt, and look to the dns servers upline before timing out and looking for the file where it is supposed to be. this might only take ten seconds while your network is up, but 10 seconds added to the time to open each file can sure make it seem like it is crawling. IMHO, better to not try to setup a dns server untill the rest of the box is setup correctly. When I got dns wrong it affected absolutely everything. Opening a file from the desktop took upwards of a minute. Sure the startup was very, very slow, but so was every other time the system needed it. Maybe this setup has a correct entry coupled with one or more incorrect ones, so that eventually gets there, while mine just had to time out. Anne i stopped the deamon from starting at boot, rebooted and checked to make sure that the deamon was stopped. it was... however, i'm still quite slow. it does not take me 1 minute more like 15 - 20 seconds to open programs. i do remember that the only other time i did a default install (mdk 8.2) i also had a slow system. once i did a custom install (checking only the programs i wanted and needed) the system ran fine. i'll reinstall if i have to :^( but i'm not looking forward to it (reeks of ms crap i went through w/ win98). anyother ideas would be greatly appreciated. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:53 pm, iggy wrote: anyother ideas would be greatly appreciated. -iggy Make sure you don't have a hostname conflict somewhere. That wil definitely slow your system down. Also, you can get KDE to bootup faster by editing: /usr/bin/startkde and commenting out the following lines: # Laurent kde2.2-30mdk scan-nsplugins #if [ -x /usr/bin/nspluginscan ]; then # /usr/bin/nspluginscan #fi HTH's! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:58 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 31 January 2003 12:53 pm, iggy wrote: anyother ideas would be greatly appreciated. -iggy Make sure you don't have a hostname conflict somewhere. That wil definitely slow your system down. Also, you can get KDE to bootup faster by editing: /usr/bin/startkde and commenting out the following lines: # Laurent kde2.2-30mdk scan-nsplugins #if [ -x /usr/bin/nspluginscan ]; then # /usr/bin/nspluginscan #fi HTH's! :-) I am glad we don't have the hardware specs any more too... so now I can chime in add more memory Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
iggy wrote: dear all, ***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. ***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) ***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to generously help out those of us with less experience. An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are running (Mandrake Control Center-System-Services)? A couple of times I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. Sir Robin -- A Perl script is correct if it gets the job done before your boss fires you. - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: iggy wrote: dear all, ***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. ***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) ***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to generously help out those of us with less experience. An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are running (Mandrake Control Center-System-Services)? A couple of times I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. Sir Robin thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm only interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the program. if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. thanks, again. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
Title: RE: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: iggy wrote: dear all, ***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. ***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) ***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to generously help out those of us with less experience. An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are running (Mandrake Control Center-System-Services)? A couple of times I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. Sir Robin thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm only interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the program. if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. thanks, again. -iggy One thing I found on my system, Gigabyte MB w/ Maxtor HD and Athlon 1800 cpu, was that if I had the bios set with HD detection on auto my whole system ran poorly, as in slow and glitchy. As soon as I did an detect hard drives in bios and then rebooted, we went into highgear and everything works well. I have no explanation since I don't know how the auto function works but, seems like it may be something to look at. HTH Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 11:42 am, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: iggy wrote: dear all, ***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. ***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) ***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to generously help out those of us with less experience. An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are running (Mandrake Control Center-System-Services)? A couple of times I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. Sir Robin thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm only interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the program. if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. thanks, again. -iggy I would suggest you turn of DNS, cacheing name server, named, routed and yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to correctly configure them Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 11:42 am, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: iggy wrote: dear all, ***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. ***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) ***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to generously help out those of us with less experience. An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are running (Mandrake Control Center-System-Services)? A couple of times I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. Sir Robin thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm only interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the program. if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. thanks, again. -iggy One thing I found on my system, Gigabyte MB w/ Maxtor HD and Athlon 1800 cpu, was that if I had the bios set with HD detection on auto my whole system ran poorly, as in slow and glitchy. As soon as I did an detect hard drives in bios and then rebooted, we went into highgear and everything works well. I have no explanation since I don't know how the auto function works but, seems like it may be something to look at. HTH Dennis M. good idea... off to do a reboot! btw, seems like a good idea to shave a few seconds off the rare reboot (i do use win98 for several games). -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 12:56 pm, et wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 11:42 am, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of iggy Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:53 am, robin wrote: iggy wrote: dear all, ***symptoms*** i recently installed 9.0 and have noticed that it is painfully slow. i'm very surprised as 8.2 ran like a bat out of hell. ***pertinate info*** msi mobo(i don't remember the model offhand), amd 1700+ cpu, 256 mb ram (unknown manufacturer), wd 40gb hard drive, sony 16x dvd, verbatim 40x,12x, 48x cdrw, d-link 10/100 network card and hub, g-force 2 64mb w/ tv out, sound blaster audigy mp3 sound card, (and i hope i didn't forget anything else! lol) ***specifics*** slow starting kde, slow starting each and every app, fast logging out, fast boot to graphical log in. any additional info you may need, please feal free to ask (i'm a n00b, so i may be RTFM on how to retreive that info!) as always, thanks to those volunteers and others whom take time to generously help out those of us with less experience. An obvious question, but have you checked to see what daemons are running (Mandrake Control Center-System-Services)? A couple of times I've clicked on a package I didn't actually need during installation, so then Mandrake obligingly started the appropriate demon. Some of these can be real resource-hoggers, fetchmail being one of the wrost offenders. Sir Robin thanks for the tip. i had noticed that when i rebooted (i dual boot with win98 for a few games i have) that the squid deamon was failing to stop normally. i attempted to stop the deamon through the services menu and it failed to stop also. i then uninstalled it. also, i noticed that mysql and postgresql were both installed. since i'm only interested in learing mysql (for now), i stopped the postgresql deamon and uninstalled it also. the innd deamon ran installed and running. since i'm not creating my own news server i stopped the deamon and removed the program. if anything i've done seems (or is) wrong, please feel free to let me know. thanks, again. -iggy I would suggest you turn of DNS, cacheing name server, named, routed and yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to correctly configure them seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as per www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his sytem leaving the bios set to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and suggested doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can get this thing moving! thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
Snipped I would suggest you turn of DNS, caching name server, named, routed and yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to correctly configure them seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as per www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his system leaving the bios set to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and suggested doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can get this thing moving! thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. -iggy DNS, if not configured correctly is one of those things that will sure as hell start a system to crawl, as your box might decide it needs to look on the Internet for //iggy.ISP.com/home/Iggy/fileIneed.txt instead of /home/iggy/fileineed.txt, and look to the dns servers upline before timing out and looking for the file where it is supposed to be. this might only take ten seconds while your network is up, but 10 seconds added to the time to open each file can sure make it seem like it is crawling. IMHO, better to not try to setup a dns server untill the rest of the box is setup correctly. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 6:30 pm, et wrote: Snipped I would suggest you turn of DNS, caching name server, named, routed and yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to correctly configure them seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as per www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his system leaving the bios set to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and suggested doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can get this thing moving! thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. -iggy DNS, if not configured correctly is one of those things that will sure as hell start a system to crawl, as your box might decide it needs to look on the Internet for //iggy.ISP.com/home/Iggy/fileIneed.txt instead of /home/iggy/fileineed.txt, and look to the dns servers upline before timing out and looking for the file where it is supposed to be. this might only take ten seconds while your network is up, but 10 seconds added to the time to open each file can sure make it seem like it is crawling. IMHO, better to not try to setup a dns server untill the rest of the box is setup correctly. When I got dns wrong it affected absolutely everything. Opening a file from the desktop took upwards of a minute. Sure the startup was very, very slow, but so was every other time the system needed it. Maybe this setup has a correct entry coupled with one or more incorrect ones, so that eventually gets there, while mine just had to time out. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
