Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze
On Saturday 22 November 2003 05:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > and insert some text (any text) between the quotes after > > 'title=' Then run update-menus again" > > I just tryed this and it seems to be hanging at running > method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome > Any ideas ? Don't use the -v switch, run 'update-menus -n' If it still hangs at method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome, then just hit The -n switch is undocumented, but it's the current wisdom of the developers on the cooker list. In any event, the hang at 'gnome' is the end of the process and hanging there won't cause the menus update to be unsuccessful. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze
On Saturday 22 November 2003 17:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just tryed this and it seems to be hanging at running > method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome > Any ideas ? Yes. Mine does the same thing. Doesn't matter. Just press and you are done. I don't know why "update-menus -v" doesn't exit correctly, but since there's no STDERR, I just ignore it. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze
On November 22, 2003 12:38 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Marc, you have the infamous "missing icons" problem. This is a bug > in 9.2. Drove me crazy until Derek gave me the key. I'll take the > liberty of quoting Derek : > > "To get your menus back if you lose them:- > > Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text console. log in as root then > update-menus -v > Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to X. Your menus will now be normal." > > Furthermore, if you installed fluxbox, there another bug : > > "When you run 'update-menus -v' do you see some text about a syntax > error in a line about fluxbox? If so edit /etc/menu/menudrakeentry > find the line causing the problem. I think it is this one > > ?package(menu): needs="fluxbox" icon="applications_section.png" > section="Fluxbox/Styles/" title="" charset="utf8" > > and insert some text (any text) between the quotes after 'title=' > Then run update-menus again" > I just tryed this and it seems to be hanging at running method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome Any ideas ? Regards, Dan Gordon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze
On Saturday 22 November 2003 01:52 pm, Marc wrote: > We ran memtest and the memory appears to be OK. > This is all starting to seem like a hardware problem but I cant > quite put my finger on what it might be. > Anyone here have any ideas? Newer kernels seem to be getting much less tolerant of marginal hardware and/or configuration (and overclocking). ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime235.tar.gz D/l that and unpack it. cd to the directory it's in and run './mprime -m'then choose number 17 from the menu (torture test). You should be able to run it for several hours without it stopping on 'hardware errors'. The longer you can run it the better. You should never see a hardware error tho. Much better PSU/ motherboard/ cpu/ cache/ ram/ test than memtest86. Both apps test all those simultaneously (there is no such thing as software 'just a ram' tester), and the problems you describe could be attributed to any one or a combination of those components. I recently had to replace a two month old Aopen KT400a chipset motherboard that began causing similar problems. While I was at it I replaced Kingston ram (dubious reliability) with a stick of Crucial/Micron. No more problems ;) The Kingston would pass memtest86 with flying colors, but error with mprime, even in my new KT600 Asus board, even at minimal timings and overvolted to 2.65v. Which by the way is the first thing to try... up the voltage to the cpu slightly (1.7v for an XP) and for the ram (2.6 to 2.7v). See if that helps. Also try taking the case cover off and pointing a table fan into the box to eliminate overheating problems. Try with and without, while testing with mprime. In fairness to Aopen, it was running an XP 3000+ severely overclocked (2.4+ Ghz, XP 3500?). I'm not pushing the Asus quite as hard ;) The 3000 is now at 2.2 Ghz, XP 3200+, 1.65v, the Crucial at 2.5-3-3 at 2.65v -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze
> Marc, you have the infamous "missing icons" problem. This is a bug > in 9.2. Drove me crazy until Derek gave me the key. I'll take the > liberty of quoting Derek : > > "To get your menus back if you lose them:- > > Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text console. log in as root then > update-menus -v > Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to X. Your menus will now be normal." I posted an update notice the other day, but was probably missed inthe confusion subject = Fw: MDKA-2003:030 - Updated rpm packages fix database locking bug (or see below) Have you updated since the initial install? eric Package name: rpm Advisory ID:MDKA-2003:030 Date: November 18th, 2003 Affected versions: 9.2 ___ ___ Problem Description: A bug was found in the way that rpm locks it's database in that it prevents update-menus from running properly and can cause the loss of KDE, GNOME, and other WM menus. This package provides a better locking mechanism that should prevent this improper behaviour. ___ ___ Updated Packages: Mandrake Linux 9.2: 8fa66e2b1aa81c6ce2d82afe3653127a 9.2/RPMS/rpm-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 5b1b98503517529c5ddd1fcb55777410 9.2/RPMS/rpm-build-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm ae16c770dd50267c0bfc241375614e54 9.2/RPMS/rpm-devel-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 7950798546366ab926605f6b82810bcb 9.2/RPMS/rpm-python-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 3e793e8944ccbfd7f7d43ea9ff37ab4c 9.2/RPMS/popt-1.8-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 15069be864356db8bf1954a112566419 9.2/RPMS/popt-devel-1.8-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 90002ee1e3750c3bb6c9bb6a9b974b49 9.2/SRPMS/rpm-4.2-21.2.92mdk.src.rpm ___ Bug IDs fixed (see http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com for more information): 30 - Rpm lock on database causes KDE menu to disappear when installing RPMS -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze
On Saturday 22 November 2003 13:52, Marc wrote: > A couple of days ago I helped a friend install 9.1 on a computer > that he had just built. Soyo dragon mobo 80 geg hdd 512 MB of DDR > Several applications crashed constantly, Galeon, open office > seemed to both be constant sources of trouble there seemed to be > a number of other things that were just not quite right. That was > when we started to think that something had just gone wrong in > the installation. Good thing I gad just finished downloading 9.2 > and the third CD was just coming off the burner. > We decided to give 9.2 a try. Before burning I had run md5sums > to check the download it looked OK. We reformatted the whole > hard drive and the installation went smooth, everything seemed to > be working fine. >After a couple days things started to go wrong. Newly > installed packages did not show up on the K menu. Some file > associations seemed to just get lost. Mozilla and Galeon started > to crash all the time and other applications started to disappear > off the k menu. We ran memtest and the memory appears to be OK. > This is all starting to seem like a hardware problem but I cant > quite put my finger on what it might be. > Anyone here have any ideas? > Marc, you have the infamous "missing icons" problem. This is a bug in 9.2. Drove me crazy until Derek gave me the key. I'll take the liberty of quoting Derek : "To get your menus back if you lose them:- Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text console. log in as root then update-menus -v Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to X. Your menus will now be normal." Furthermore, if you installed fluxbox, there another bug : "When you run 'update-menus -v' do you see some text about a syntax error in a line about fluxbox? If so edit /etc/menu/menudrakeentry find the line causing the problem. I think it is this one ?package(menu): needs="fluxbox" icon="applications_section.png" section="Fluxbox/Styles/" title="" charset="utf8" and insert some text (any text) between the quotes after 'title=' Then run update-menus again" HTH Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze
On Saturday 22 November 2003 08:52 am, Marc wrote: >We ran memtest and the memory appears to be OK. > This is all starting to seem like a hardware problem but I cant quite > put my finger on what it might be. > Anyone here have any ideas? > > TIA > Marc > KM5KW How's the heat? Run cpuburn and see if it crashes/locksup. I had random stuff like this on my Soyo Dragon plus until I redid my cooling. Galeon under v9.1 was buggy - it crashed on just about everyone. Menus' under v9.2 is a known problem - check the Errata section at the Mandrake site. HTHs! -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
