Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 03:06 pm, Tom wrote: Aron Smith wrote: I have created a lot of coasters under k3b trying to burn 10.2 I noticed that the first disk is 699.8 Mb while the capicity is 700Mb The md5sums check is it because the CD-R is too small ? No. Cdr's are good for =703 mb. If you're already usin 10.2, CD's can't be reliably burned as anything but root due to kernel changes. If not then, as user; 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao name of iso' Adjust speed= an dev= to suit your burner OTOH, Warly is already testin the final 2005LE (10.2) iso's. Should be available shortly EPA, 2005, April 6. RC2, updated with cooker mirrors is the same thing, available now. Tryed that (cutnPaste) got cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'Mandrakelinux-10.2-CD-1.i586.iso'. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2]$ What Mandrake version are you currently usin? = 10.0, 10.1, an now 10.2 all use different daemons an methods for removable media. With 10.2 you'll need to burn as root to avoid serious risk of buffer underruns. Do you get output when you just type 'cdrecord -help' ? (cdrecord is installed, right?) Does your drive show up when you type, 'll /dev/hd*' ? Does, $ ll /dev/sg* crw-rw 1 tom cdwriter 21, 0 Apr 2 08:51 /dev/sg0 crw-rw 1 tom cdwriter 21, 1 Apr 2 08:51 /dev/sg1 ...show your user name as a member of the cdwriter group? FWIW, the name of the file is Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2-CD1.i586.iso Use Tab completion, or paste it in, don't rely on typin it in properly. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
Aron Smith wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2005 09:35 am, Tom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2]$ What Mandrake version are you currently usin? = 10.0, 10.1, an now 10.2 all use different daemons an methods for removable media. With 10.2 you'll need to burn as root to avoid serious risk of buffer underruns. Do you get output when you just type 'cdrecord -help' ? (cdrecord is installed, right?) Does your drive show up when you type, 'll /dev/hd*' ? Does, $ ll /dev/sg* crw-rw 1 tom cdwriter 21, 0 Apr 2 08:51 /dev/sg0 crw-rw 1 tom cdwriter 21, 1 Apr 2 08:51 /dev/sg1 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ ll /dev/hd* brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 0 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 1 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda1 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 2 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda2 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 5 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda5 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 6 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda6 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 7 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda7 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 8 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda8 brw-rw 1 aron cdrom 3, 64 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hdb [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ == Alright, then with 10.1 (this first part would also be the same for 10.2) 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' will show you the scsibus numbers, EG, somethin like 0,0,0 (which should be better than usin /dev/hdb) cd to the directory the isos are in and cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=ATA:0,0,0 -dao MandTab Now I've simplified that quite a bit, actually about bare minimum. You should be able to handle speed=4, use your numbers rather than the example 0,0,0 -dao is a must for .iso's Specially needed so the md5sum of the burned CD will check. With the burned CD in the drive, 'md5sum /dev/hdb' should return (might take a minute or so) the same md5sum as the iso file has. With marginal CD drives, you may need to try it several times before it succeeds. ...show your user name as a member of the cdwriter group? No problem burning other CDs both audio and data am currently using Mdk 10.1 Includin 700mb's ? If you can burn 650's, but not 700 you really need a better burner. Mandrake gave into the 650 crowd a few versions ago, but has since determined it's just not worth the inconvenience to the vast majority with decent burners. If you can't use 700's, get a new burner. Sometimes somone redoes the iso's to 650 an makes them available for FTP. I think the Mdk Club use to also do it. But don't hold your breath ;) I believe if you can run 'cdrecord dev=ATA:0,0,0 -atip' with a blank 700mb CDr in the drive, and it returns succesfully, info about cdrecord, your drive and the manufacturer of the blank Cdr... then you should be able to burn up to 703mb. I don't really know tho, even my (1997) 8432 Plextor could burn the cheapest 700's Your other option would be to d/l, IIRC, 'boot.iso' from a mirror, 'dd' it to a floppy and do an install from the iso's on your HDD. You'll need somebody or a tutorial that's knows more about that than me. I haven't done it in ages, an some changes have been made in the process for 10.2. You might be able to find out from the cooker ML archive or http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki At a minimum you should read the 10.2 Release Notes. When/if you get 10.2 installed (an I'd recommend a fresh install saving your /home) magicdev will no longer be there, supermount is used only for floppy's. gnome-volume-manager in conjunction with HAL and dbus is the entirely user space daemon for handling removable media, like CD drives. As such it can't access certain things reserved to root. IE, as user: cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. The only work around is to burn as root, even with a GUI. You'll probly also need to run 'gnome-volume-properties' once as root and under the heading Removable Media, enable the first 3 (of the 4) options (if they aren't already). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
On Saturday 02 April 2005 01:48 pm, Tom wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2005 09:35 am, Tom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2]$ What Mandrake version are you currently usin? = 10.0, 10.1, an now 10.2 all use different daemons an methods for removable media. With 10.2 you'll need to burn as root to avoid serious risk of buffer underruns. Do you get output when you just type 'cdrecord -help' ? (cdrecord is installed, right?) Does your drive show up when you type, 'll /dev/hd*' ? Does, $ ll /dev/sg* crw-rw 1 tom cdwriter 21, 0 Apr 2 08:51 /dev/sg0 crw-rw 1 tom cdwriter 21, 1 Apr 2 08:51 /dev/sg1 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ ll /dev/hd* brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 0 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 1 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda1 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 2 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda2 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 5 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda5 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 6 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda6 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 7 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda7 brw-rw 1 root disk 3, 8 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hda8 brw-rw 1 aron cdrom 3, 64 Apr 1 18:46 /dev/hdb [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ == Alright, then with 10.1 (this first part would also be the same for 10.2) 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' will show you the scsibus numbers, EG, somethin like 0,0,0 (which should be better than usin /dev/hdb) cd to the directory the isos are in and cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=ATA:0,0,0 -dao MandTab Now I've simplified that quite a bit, actually about bare minimum. You should be able to handle speed=4, use your numbers rather than the example 0,0,0 -dao is a must for .iso's Specially needed so the md5sum of the burned CD will check. With the burned CD in the drive, 'md5sum /dev/hdb' should return (might take a minute or so) the same md5sum as the iso file has. With marginal CD drives, you may need to try it several times before it succeeds. ...show your user name as a member of the cdwriter group? No problem burning other CDs both audio and data am currently using Mdk 10.1 Includin 700mb's ? If you can burn 650's, but not 700 you really need a better burner. Mandrake gave into the 650 crowd a few versions ago, but has since determined it's just not worth the inconvenience to the vast majority with decent burners. If you can't use 700's, get a new burner. Sometimes somone redoes the iso's to 650 an makes them available for FTP. I think the Mdk Club use to also do it. But don't hold your breath ;) I believe if you can run 'cdrecord dev=ATA:0,0,0 -atip' with a blank 700mb CDr in the drive, and it returns succesfully, info about cdrecord, your drive and the manufacturer of the blank Cdr... then you should be able to burn up to 703mb. I don't really know tho, even my (1997) 8432 Plextor could burn the cheapest 700's Your other option would be to d/l, IIRC, 'boot.iso' from a mirror, 'dd' it to a floppy and do an install from the iso's on your HDD. You'll need somebody or a tutorial that's knows more about that than me. I haven't done it in ages, an some changes have been made in the process for 10.2. You might be able to find out from the cooker ML archive or http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki At a minimum you should read the 10.2 Release Notes. When/if you get 10.2 installed (an I'd recommend a fresh install saving your /home) magicdev will no longer be there, supermount is used only for floppy's. gnome-volume-manager in conjunction with HAL and dbus is the entirely user space daemon for handling removable media, like CD drives. As such it can't access certain things reserved to root. IE, as user: cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. The only work around is to burn as root, even with a GUI. You'll probly also need to run 'gnome-volume-properties' once as root and under the heading Removable Media, enable the first 3 (of the 4) options (if they aren't already). The error is definitely in the package that png file has a crc error btw thanks now at least I know how to burn without the GUI Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
Aron Smith wrote: I have created a lot of coasters under k3b trying to burn 10.2 I noticed that the first disk is 699.8 Mb while the capicity is 700Mb The md5sums check is it because the CD-R is too small ? No - the 700Mb is more then big enough to burn a 699.8 MB image. The 700MB (80 minute) CDs hold 700Mb of data, plue the lead in and lead out data. Now, how are you trying to burn the CD under k3b? If you are trying to burn an ISO omage that you have downloaded, you need to pick tools, CD, Burn CD image. Now, I have heard that you can also run into problems burning CDs with k3b as a user if you haven't gone through the configuration first - you have to set some parmissions and it will ask you for the root password to do it... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
Aron Smith wrote: I have created a lot of coasters under k3b trying to burn 10.2 I noticed that the first disk is 699.8 Mb while the capicity is 700Mb The md5sums check is it because the CD-R is too small ? No. Cdr's are good for =703 mb. If you're already usin 10.2, CD's can't be reliably burned as anything but root due to kernel changes. If not then, as user; 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao name of iso' Adjust speed= an dev= to suit your burner OTOH, Warly is already testin the final 2005LE (10.2) iso's. Should be available shortly EPA, 2005, April 6. RC2, updated with cooker mirrors is the same thing, available now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:06:22 -0600 Tom disseminated the following: EPA I'm assuming you mean *ETA*, though I'm sure the *EPA* would be concerned about Aron's 'coasters' filling up the landfills, eh? Anyhow, good to know about April 6th. Gonna start backin' up my home dir tomorrow :-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:24:48 up 39 days, 20:30, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 +++ Some may never live, but the crazy never die. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:06:22 -0600 Tom disseminated the following: EPA I'm assuming you mean *ETA*, though I'm sure the *EPA* would be concerned about Aron's 'coasters' filling up the landfills, eh? Anyhow, good to know about April 6th. Gonna start backin' up my home dir tomorrow :-) Might be easier to get RC2 now an upgrade it An hell yeah, T an P are only on opposites sides of the keyborad ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
On Friday 01 April 2005 03:06 pm, Tom wrote: Aron Smith wrote: I have created a lot of coasters under k3b trying to burn 10.2 I noticed that the first disk is 699.8 Mb while the capicity is 700Mb The md5sums check is it because the CD-R is too small ? No. Cdr's are good for =703 mb. If you're already usin 10.2, CD's can't be reliably burned as anything but root due to kernel changes. If not then, as user; 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao name of iso' Adjust speed= an dev= to suit your burner OTOH, Warly is already testin the final 2005LE (10.2) iso's. Should be available shortly EPA, 2005, April 6. RC2, updated with cooker mirrors is the same thing, available now. Tryed that (cutnPaste) got cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'Mandrakelinux-10.2-CD-1.i586.iso'. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2]$ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:45:48 -0600 Tom disseminated the following: Might be easier to get RC2 now an upgrade it Me run a Cooker box? Despite my bravado regarding Linux in general and Mandrake in particular, I am, shall we say 'fearful', to run Cooker on my one and only desktop. An aging P3 desktop at that :-( -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 20:10:26 up 39 days, 22:16, 7 users, load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.03 +++ Avoid being seized by the police. The cops are not your friends. Don't tell them anything. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO
'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao name of iso' Adjust speed= an dev= to suit your burner use one quarter of the possible speed, maximum. OTOH, Warly is already testin the final 2005LE (10.2) iso's. Should be available shortly EPA, 2005, April 6. RC2, updated with cooker mirrors is the same thing, available now. Tryed that (cutnPaste) got cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'Mandrakelinux-10.2-CD-1.i586.iso'. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2]$ the iso file needs to be in the directory where you are for this to work. you can move it to the home directory before burning (or you can go to where it is using the cd command). kind regards philippe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
