Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-22 Thread Austin L. Denyer



 I have ME on one of the computers here and it sucks something fierce.
I
 had in mind three reasons for using WinME:

 1.  The new mpg encoding
 2.  Driver updates so I wouldn't have to search around for them
 3.  The registry roll back feature.

 It just completely fails on 3 -- I get a damn dll error everytime I
try
 to roll it back.  2. isn't really that compelling a reason to have it.
 And 1.  ... well I haven't used 1 yet but I can't imagine it not
 crashing by the time the movie is done being encoded.  Same old MS ...
 all feature no stability.

I saw a demo of WinME on the TV the other day.  He couldn't show most of
the media features because the media player crashed and started looping.

Does anyone remember the "Grand Introduction" of Win98, where BillyG
himself demonstrated Win98 to all the top dogs of industry?  Within
minutes, the demo machine went into BSOD mode, and flatly refused to
reboot...

Regards,
Ozz.






Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-21 Thread Larry Hignight

I have ME on one of the computers here and it sucks something fierce.  I
had in mind three reasons for using WinME:

1.  The new mpg encoding
2.  Driver updates so I wouldn't have to search around for them
3.  The registry roll back feature.  

It just completely fails on 3 -- I get a damn dll error everytime I try
to roll it back.  2. isn't really that compelling a reason to have it. 
And 1.  ... well I haven't used 1 yet but I can't imagine it not
crashing by the time the movie is done being encoded.  Same old MS ...
all feature no stability.



"Kelly, Christopher" wrote:

 Now, I know some people who use ME and think that it works just fine. Maybe
 your friend is having some configuration problems...Just a guess.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug McGarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question
 
 No, you DO NOT want to install ME on anything.  It is
 far inferior to W98 by everybody who has tried it, and
 it crashes frequently.  Don't just take my word for it,
 check Consumer Reports and the info at ZDnet or whatever
 the correct name is.  One of my compadres at work has
 decided to put ME on his machine. He said it crashed a
 lot. He was unable to even boot the machine today!  I
 can't believe that MS was so stupid as to create this
 mess, but they did.  MS may be inept, but they're very
 seldom stupid.
 --doug, wa2say
 
 At 07:55 09/19/2000 -0400, you wrote:
 Greetings on this rainy Tuesday in New Jersey,
 
 Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to add
 another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I dual-boot
 between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?
 
 Thanks,
 Chris Kelly
 Registered Linux user 185775
 

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RE: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-20 Thread Kelly, Christopher

Now, I know some people who use ME and think that it works just fine. Maybe
your friend is having some configuration problems...Just a guess.

-Original Message-
From: Doug McGarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question


No, you DO NOT want to install ME on anything.  It is 
far inferior to W98 by everybody who has tried it, and 
it crashes frequently.  Don't just take my word for it, 
check Consumer Reports and the info at ZDnet or whatever
the correct name is.  One of my compadres at work has 
decided to put ME on his machine. He said it crashed a 
lot. He was unable to even boot the machine today!  I
can't believe that MS was so stupid as to create this
mess, but they did.  MS may be inept, but they're very
seldom stupid.
--doug, wa2say

At 07:55 09/19/2000 -0400, you wrote:
Greetings on this rainy Tuesday in New Jersey,

Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to add
another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I dual-boot
between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?

Thanks,
Chris Kelly
Registered Linux user 185775
 





Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-20 Thread Larry Marshall


 the correct name is.  One of my compadres at work has
 decided to put ME on his machine. He said it crashed a
 lot. He was unable to even boot the machine today!  I

Probably while doing its "maintenance" to keep it from crashing :-)

 can't believe that MS was so stupid as to create this
 mess, but they did.  MS may be inept, but they're very
 seldom stupid.

In fairness, aren't all released copies considered beta at this point
or has it officially been released?  I'm losing track and like the
feeling :-)

Cheers --- Larry




RE: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-20 Thread Kelly, Christopher

I believe that ME is a real release at this point but, who cares. It is just
a crutch until I become proficient at Linux. And, it's for my wife too...
:o)

-Original Message-
From: Larry Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question



 the correct name is.  One of my compadres at work has
 decided to put ME on his machine. He said it crashed a
 lot. He was unable to even boot the machine today!  I

Probably while doing its "maintenance" to keep it from crashing :-)

 can't believe that MS was so stupid as to create this
 mess, but they did.  MS may be inept, but they're very
 seldom stupid.

In fairness, aren't all released copies considered beta at this point
or has it officially been released?  I'm losing track and like the
feeling :-)

Cheers --- Larry




Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Thomas Ellis

yes you can, either leave linux W/ LILO or GRUB as a
boot loader on the first hard drive and be sure to ad
WinME to your boot loader and tell it where to find
Windows.or I have seen some people just switch the
hard drive that boots whenever they want to run
Windowsnot very practical but still works.

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Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread John Rye

"Kelly, Christopher" wrote:
 
 Greetings on this rainy Tuesday in New Jersey,
 
 Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to add
 another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I dual-boot
 between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?
 
 Thanks,
 Chris Kelly
 Registered Linux user 185775

In simple terms - yes. But the windows installation for some
strange archaiac and magical reason closely related to monotonic
gatesism
dictates that windows _MUST_ be on the first hard disk.

You would need to change you existing drive to either primary slave
or to the secondary IDE channel.

And that again depends on your particular motherboard.

Help??? Nah - probably not eh???

Cheers

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RE: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Kelly, Christopher

I think that I would choose option 1 over option 2, definately! Thanks, Tom.

Now, that i know that I can do it, how is the question. I've never done this
before. Any good documentation laying around? Any suggestions??

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question


yes you can, either leave linux W/ LILO or GRUB as a
boot loader on the first hard drive and be sure to ad
WinME to your boot loader and tell it where to find
Windows.or I have seen some people just switch the
hard drive that boots whenever they want to run
Windowsnot very practical but still works.

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Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Austin L. Denyer

 Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to
add
 another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I
dual-boot
 between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?

You CAN dual-boot between two different hard drives.  However, Windoze
expects to be on the first drive, and gets decidedly miffed if placed
anywhere else.

Linux, on the other hand, can go anywhere.

Your best bet would be to put Windoze on hda and Linux on hdb.  Just
remember to re-install lilo (or whatever boot-loader you use) on the
boot sector of hda, and point it to Linux on hdb.

You may also need to modify /etc/fstab if such a move screws other mount
points.

Regards,
Ozz.






Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Steve Maytum

Chris , If you know how to install second hard drive and load operating
system you should have no problem. You will need to use some kind of boot
management (lilo perhaps?) and all should be well

- Original Message -
From: Kelly, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Newbie' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: [newbie] Dual-boot question


 Greetings on this rainy Tuesday in New Jersey,

 Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to add
 another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I
dual-boot
 between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?

 Thanks,
 Chris Kelly
 Registered Linux user 185775







Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Joan Tur

John Rye escribió:

 In simple terms - yes. But the windows installation for some
 strange archaiac and magical reason closely related to monotonic
 gatesism
 dictates that windows _MUST_ be on the first hard disk.

Ejem... only windows' boot has to be in the first hard disk; i've windows98
installed on my second SCSI disk with no problems at all  ;-)


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Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread John Rye

Joan Tur wrote:
 
 John Rye escribió:
 
  In simple terms - yes. But the windows installation for some
  strange archaiac and magical reason closely related to monotonic
  gatesism
  dictates that windows _MUST_ be on the first hard disk.
 
 Ejem... only windows' boot has to be in the first hard disk; i've windows98
 installed on my second SCSI disk with no problems at all  ;-)
 
Not sure if that's an 'opps' or not - I run IDE drives and for some
reason
this system won't run windows unless it's on first drive.

Might be peculiar to the version of w95 I run...

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Mark Weaver

Kelly,

You can do what you've mentioned and you shouldn't have any trouble at all
in doing so. When I first started using Linux that's very much the way I
did it. I had Windows in one drive and Linux on another. Everything booted
just fine and both OS's were just happy as clams.

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote:

 Greetings on this rainy Tuesday in New Jersey,
 
 Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to add
 another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I dual-boot
 between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?
 
 Thanks,
 Chris Kelly
 Registered Linux user 185775
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Willard Seehorn

At 07:55 AM 9/19/00 -0400, Chris Kelly wrote:
Greetings on this rainy Tuesday in New Jersey,

Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to add
another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I dual-boot
between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?

I installed a 2d hd  installed 6.0 on it. Dual boots just fine.




Re: [newbie] Dual-boot question

2000-09-19 Thread Mwinold

you can but i would pull the other hard drive out and use the new one as a 
primary to install windows then after your done swap it out and put it in as 
the secondary, then you just have to add the commands in your boot loader to 
the second os, although im not exactly sure what the system comands are, 
windows may get confused because of the hard drive label and the fact that it 
set up an mbr partition for its booting purposes. its the only solution i 
know due to the fact that microsoft has recently altered the install program 
to search for alternate partitions such as the 2fs format when it finds it it 
prompts you to delete the partition or it will go no further