Re: [newbie] Getting win98 back
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 19:24 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote: Had a PII system at work that started to physically fry itself. Removed the hard disk and subsequently found it to be sound . In another up to date system I installed winXP and xandos ( will be changing to mandrake when I get the boss to 'support' it by actually coughing up some cash to help the effort here.) Physically installed the win98 hard drive as slave into this system before installing linux. Lilo recognized win98 OK but when I try to boot into it - no noise at all. So I suspect that win98 doesn't understand the new motherboard - maybe. What I would like to do is to be able to boot win98 because of some propriety software installed there. I am able to see the hard drive and all the file system OK so no worries there at present. I do know that if I use a rescue disk that I will lose the capability of running some of these programs. One thought is to copy the registry ( when I can remember where it is ) - rescue the win98 installation and then rewrite the registry with the saved one. I have been running linux ( Mandrake10 Official at present ) for so long now that I have forgotten most of this stuff. Anyone here been able to get something like this to work? And yes, if neseccary I am prepared to install Mandrake over xandros. The folk at work like things straight forward and a basic installation of Mandrake and KDE will get them using and eventually accepting linux. To recap, how can I boot win98 on hdb1 when win98 had been installed from a previous hardware system without having to re-install win98? A few months ago, I had a problem with my laptop CD drive. I borrowed an almost identical laptop from a friend, the only difference being the video card, put in it my hard drive and reinstalled XP and Mandrake 10. Then, I placed my hard drive back in my laptop, hoping that I didn't need to install every thing again. Well, Mandrake detected the hardware change and booted without problem. XP was simply unbootable, no matter what I tried.After fighting a few hours with it I decided to spend the 6+ hours reinstalling XP and its patches, MS Office and its patches, Autocad, and so on. I hope you better luck with W98. Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Getting win98 back
Had a PII system at work that started to physically fry itself. Removed the hard disk and subsequently found it to be sound . In another up to date system I installed winXP and xandos ( will be changing to mandrake when I get the boss to 'support' it by actually coughing up some cash to help the effort here.) Physically installed the win98 hard drive as slave into this system before installing linux. Lilo recognized win98 OK but when I try to boot into it - no noise at all. So I suspect that win98 doesn't understand the new motherboard - maybe. What I would like to do is to be able to boot win98 because of some propriety software installed there. I am able to see the hard drive and all the file system OK so no worries there at present. I do know that if I use a rescue disk that I will lose the capability of running some of these programs. One thought is to copy the registry ( when I can remember where it is ) - rescue the win98 installation and then rewrite the registry with the saved one. I have been running linux ( Mandrake10 Official at present ) for so long now that I have forgotten most of this stuff. Anyone here been able to get something like this to work? And yes, if neseccary I am prepared to install Mandrake over xandros. The folk at work like things straight forward and a basic installation of Mandrake and KDE will get them using and eventually accepting linux. To recap, how can I boot win98 on hdb1 when win98 had been installed from a previous hardware system without having to re-install win98? -- Regards SnapafunFrank The problem is that Windows is not on the first hard drive. Windows 98 is dumb - it expectes to be on the first primary FAT partition on the first hard drive. If it is not, it doesn't know what to do. You have to make some changes to your lilo.conf to fool it into thinking it is one the first drive. (This is a FAQ...) Try something like this: other=/dev/hdb1 table=/dev/hdb map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 label=windows The map commands make Windows think that your second drive is your first drive. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Getting win98 back
On Monday 29 November 2004 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The map commands make Windows think that your second drive is your first drive. Mikkel On most of the newer BIOS'es you can change the boot order of IDE1 or 2that way you can boot yer W98 too. Lilo on IDE1 and winboot on IDE2 mbr -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Getting win98 back
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 29 November 2004 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The map commands make Windows think that your second drive is your first drive. Mikkel On most of the newer BIOS'es you can change the boot order of IDE1 or 2that way you can boot yer W98 too. Lilo on IDE1 and winboot on IDE2 mbr In the BIOS I work with, the first IDE drive is IDE0. While changing the boot order in the BIOS would work, you would have to do it each time you want to change the OS you are booting. Now, you could install LILO on the windows drive, but that would be tricky, as Lilo uses the BIOS settings when booting, but it does not know how the BIOS maps the drives when it does the install under Linux. It would probably be about like setting up Lilo on a mixed SCSI/IDE system that boots off the SCSI drive. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Getting win98 back
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 29 November 2004 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The map commands make Windows think that your second drive is your first drive. Mikkel On most of the newer BIOS'es you can change the boot order of IDE1 or 2that way you can boot yer W98 too. Lilo on IDE1 and winboot on IDE2 mbr In the BIOS I work with, the first IDE drive is IDE0. While changing the boot order in the BIOS would work, you would have to do it each time you want to change the OS you are booting. Now, you could install LILO on the windows drive, but that would be tricky, as Lilo uses the BIOS settings when booting, but it does not know how the BIOS maps the drives when it does the install under Linux. It would probably be about like setting up Lilo on a mixed SCSI/IDE system that boots off the SCSI drive. Mikkel Thanks for all the interest and assistance. To-day at work I was able to get the old Win98 up and running after wading through heaps of re-boots for driver conflicts AND am now able to run the old Netscape Communicator 4.73 and interact with the emails buried therein albeit 'chunky' because of a graphic driver conflict. The missing component was within lilo.conf [ table=/dev/hdb ]. I need to simply Enter/Return at the beginning to get through. Now back to the ongoing headache of moving the email across to Mozilla running under WinXP to make the boss happy. Then roll on Mandrake. He ( the boss ) is now very interested now he sees things working again because of Linux. Running Netscape Communicator 4.73 I do not see any means of Exporting the email. Elsewhere it was suggested that I merge the *.msl files with Mozilla's *.sbd files. Sounded great at the time but I have now discovered that Netscape files are *.snm and I cannot find any *.sbd Mozilla files, only *.xpt. So any ideas how I can get the 1.2Gigabytes of email moved over to the new system for the boss to use? Remember I have WinXP AND Linux dual booting OK on the primary hard drive so have options available I hope. Er... one other point to remember. I will need to be using a compatable email client when within Mandrake also so will need the end result of this first step to WinXP to be compatable for that next step. Still, one step at a time. For those interested in the relevant entry within lilo.conf : other=/dev/hdb1 label=Win98 table=/dev/hdb map-drive = 0x80 to = 0x81 map-drive = 0x81 to = 0x80 So, if you cannot help me here, I hope this may be of assistance to you in some way. -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
