Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote: How can i install ppp Please an easy way... Thank... PPP comes with the kernel. its not a program -- "To followers We feed you." -- Klesk, Quake III Arena.
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
How can i install ppp This is interesting. Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart? I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so complete. Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a Beta. Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend. Thing is, I also got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I should install it. I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially. It kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in Device Manager). That's another issue to swim through. I may also have a Winmodem. Rats. In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say. I have 2 users set up: "dave" and "root". The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it did in the screen shots on the web tutorials. However, there is no kicker loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave. (Side note: When does a single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?) Apparently, this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve. More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the manual. In that illustration, the text in the window (of available packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different order. The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I have. g About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the package). Below that window is a button to install all components. That choice does install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the tutorials on the website). Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data of a 6 minute install came from the first disk. If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this package's custom instalation. Even if the manual warned only that it may not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM. In fact, there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations. There are many other differences, too. What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now. As soon as I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more diligently to make my hardware work. With this arrangement, I am thinking it futile. Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO images for the disks from the web. I am glad to have the manual and the books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice to have a copy that works. I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though. I delayed Linux for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it. I've read the Re Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it. Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure it'll be worth the effort. I was surprised at how easily I could run a dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot. I did have some partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows that Linux even exists on the same machine (and visa versa so far). My old PM v. 3.0 had no trouble resizing and moving partions already in existence to accomodate the Linux files. On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote: How can i install ppp Please an easy way... -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
On Sunday 21 January 2001 22:03, you wrote: How can i install ppp This is interesting. Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart? I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so complete. Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a Beta. Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend. Thing is, I also got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I should install it. I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially. It kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in Device Manager). That's another issue to swim through. I may also have a Winmodem. Rats. In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say. I have 2 users set up: "dave" and "root". The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it did in the screen shots on the web tutorials. However, there is no kicker loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave. (Side note: When does a single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?) Apparently, this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve. More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the manual. In that illustration, the text in the window (of available packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different order. The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I have. g About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the package). Below that window is a button to install all components. That choice does install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the tutorials on the website). Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data of a 6 minute install came from the first disk. If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this package's custom instalation. Even if the manual warned only that it may not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM. In fact, there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations. There are many other differences, too. What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now. As soon as I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more diligently to make my hardware work. With this arrangement, I am thinking it futile. Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO images for the disks from the web. I am glad to have the manual and the books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice to have a copy that works. I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though. I delayed Linux for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it. I've read the Re Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it. Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure it'll be worth the effort. I was surprised at how easily I could run a dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot. I did have some partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows that Linux even exists on the same machine (and visa versa so far). My old PM v. 3.0 had no trouble resizing and moving partions already in existence to accomodate the Linux files. On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote: How can i install ppp Please an easy way... Install in expert mode DO NOT choose 100% of the packages unless you go for individual package selection afterward and make sure you do not install printpro, or Zope or any of the Glide packages (unless you have a Voodoo 3dfx in which case install ONLY the one for your card). 75-80% is a good number, but again make SURE printpro is not installed. (It
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
I know it was a verbose post but there were 2 points which you missed. You suggest to "choose the expert mode". Would that I could. As I said: "In fact, there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations." As to "DO NOT choose 100% of the packages unless.." snip, I'd agree entirely were there any other way to have installed KDE or Gnome. I encourage you to read the details of why I did this and my point at having writen it (which was to say that all 7.2 versions are not created equally and that what works in one package may not work in another even if the manual says it will). Thanks for the link; I'd been to that page but had forgotten how I got there. While I anticipate I'll have downloaded both ISO files before the update arrives here, I may be pleasantly surprised to find it sooner. By the way; I found a link to a site where several US national chains of retailers are detailed as to specific modems they stock, with prices and whether or not they've been tested on Linux machines. Look about 2/3 down the page just below the colored charts. It's here: http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html Anyone know of a way to decide for certain if a modem will work in Linux other than testing it? My clue to a so-called winmodem in my case is that I typically work on a small budget and would have gone for a $30 - $40 modem rather than a $60 or more model (and those seem more often soft modems) plus, when I tried accessing it in Linux, I go "sorry, the modem is busy" when I knew it wasn't. Cable looks even better right now. I don't think it's available here yet, though. Dave On Sunday 21 January 2001 22:03, you wrote: How can i install ppp This is interesting. Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart? I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so complete. Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a Beta. Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend. Thing is, I also got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I should install it. I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially. It kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in Device Manager). That's another issue to swim through. I may also have a Winmodem. Rats. In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say. I have 2 users set up: "dave" and "root". The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it did in the screen shots on the web tutorials. However, there is no kicker loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave. (Side note: When does a single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?) Apparently, this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve. More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the manual. In that illustration, the text in the window (of available packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different order. The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I have. g About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the package). Below that window is a button to install all components. That choice does install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the tutorials on the website). Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data of a 6 minute install came from the first disk. If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this package's custom instalation. Even if the manual warned only that it may not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM. In fact, there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations. There are many other differences, too. What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now. As soon as I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more diligently to make my hardware work. With this arrangement, I am thinking it futile. Maybe what
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
Emiliano Ogando wrote: How can i install ppp Please an easy way... Thank... Emilianoppp-2.4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm is a file on your Installation CD. Mount your Installation CD then in console mode, as root, type: rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/ppp-2.4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm -- Alan
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
Perhaps you were pointing also to what follows but deeper on the page to which you linked earlier: -- Error scenario: Cannot switch to Expert mode with the Complete/Desktop product When: During installation Why: The Complete/Desktop product is designed for beginners, not experts Solution: If you really need to switch to expert mode, for example to install an X server other than the default server, press Alt-E (hold the Alt key down then press E). Then click again on the installation step you were executing (in the left column) to restart in expert mode. Alt-E is a toggle, so you can switch back to the default (Recommended) mode later by pressing this key combination again. -- Will try this later. Wonder if this mode will give more options for the programs to be installed than the custom mode did. civileme wrote: When the update disk arrives, follow the special install instructions given at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72last.php3 -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
Hi, Dave. As a relative newcomer to Linux, only about a year ago, :) , I am still learning everyday. For example, switching from a CD-R to a CD-RW caused me a number of days searching for info as to why I could no longer access my CD-Rom drive. You will find this a very supportive list, and the response time is incredibly fast. Welcome to Linux! You'll be glad you arrived, as I am. :) Phil Murphy Registered Linux user 197338 Yamaha XS1100 SG - Original Message - From: Dave Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Emiliano Ogando [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ??? How can i install ppp This is interesting. Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart? I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so complete. Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a Beta. Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend. Thing is, I also got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I should install it. I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially. It kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in Device Manager). That's another issue to swim through. I may also have a Winmodem. Rats. In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say. I have 2 users set up: "dave" and "root". The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it did in the screen shots on the web tutorials. However, there is no kicker loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave. (Side note: When does a single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?) Apparently, this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve. More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the manual. In that illustration, the text in the window (of available packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different order. The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I have. g About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the package). Below that window is a button to install all components. That choice does install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the tutorials on the website). Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data of a 6 minute install came from the first disk. If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this package's custom instalation. Even if the manual warned only that it may not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM. In fact, there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations. There are many other differences, too. What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now. As soon as I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more diligently to make my hardware work. With this arrangement, I am thinking it futile. Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO images for the disks from the web. I am glad to have the manual and the books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice to have a copy that works. I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though. I delayed Linux for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it. I've read the Re Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it. Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure it'll be worth the effort. I was surprised at how easily I could run a dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot. I did have some partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows that
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
Try kppp. I like the part that Queries the modem. If you are missing the pppd daemon, then use draknet and it will guide you with the installation. How can i install ppp Please an easy way... Thank...
