Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-29 Thread Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 09:33 pm, you wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 January 2005 09:41 am, Andy Yankovich wrote:
  I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software
  items. One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the
  other is an almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix
  Bible Software. Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is
  the method included in MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for
  your help.
  Andy

 For the Bible software try [as root] urpmi bibletime -a

Hi guys, sorry about sending this to reply instead of to list.
I dtried the above and got this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]# uprmi bibletime -a
bash: uprmi: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]# urpmi bibletime -a
To satisfy dependencies, the following 3 packages are going to be 
installed (3 MB):
bibletime-1.4.1-3mdk.i586
libsword4-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586
sword-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n) Y

The following packages have bad signatures:
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bibletime-1.4.1-3mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid 
signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) (MISSING KEY) GPG#78d019f5 
NOT OK)
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libsword4-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid 
signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) (MISSING KEY) GPG#78d019f5 
NOT OK)
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/sword-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid 
signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) (MISSING KEY) GPG#78d019f5 
NOT OK)
Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) N

What is the correct next step? 
thanks, andy




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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-29 Thread Simon
On Saturday 29 Jan 2005 23:03, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 January 2005 09:33 pm, you wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 January 2005 09:41 am, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software
   items. One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the
   other is an almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix
   Bible Software. Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is
   the method included in MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for
   your help.
   Andy
 
  For the Bible software try [as root] urpmi bibletime -a

 Hi guys, sorry about sending this to reply instead of to list.
 I dtried the above and got this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]# uprmi bibletime -a
 bash: uprmi: command not found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]# urpmi bibletime -a
 To satisfy dependencies, the following 3 packages are going to be
 installed (3 MB):
 bibletime-1.4.1-3mdk.i586
 libsword4-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586
 sword-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586
 Is this OK? (Y/n) Y

 The following packages have bad signatures:
 /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bibletime-1.4.1-3mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid
 signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) (MISSING KEY) GPG#78d019f5
 NOT OK)
 /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libsword4-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid
 signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) (MISSING KEY) GPG#78d019f5
 NOT OK)
 /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/sword-1.5.7a-1mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid
 signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) (MISSING KEY) GPG#78d019f5
 NOT OK)
 Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) N

 What is the correct next step?
 thanks, andy
Y and enter is the next step. All the blurb about bad signatures is just 
because you don't have the relevant keys installed, as long as your package 
source is OK you don't have to worry.

HTH,
Simon.
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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-22 Thread Daniel Anderson
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 02:50 pm, Elwyn wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 Jan 2005 19:13, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software items.
   One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the other is an
   almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix Bible Software.
   Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is the method included in
   MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for your help.
   Andy
 
  Aren't these Windows applications?
  derek

 Yep, sounds like it. Like Derek said there are other bits of software out
 there to do some of that.  With the Bible software I'm not sure. It's
 usually engineered for a Windows environment.
Bibletime

 You might manage with Cross Office... But I don't have that installed
 anymore as it was effectively a small security hole :( Among other
 things

 Elwyn


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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-19 Thread et
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 02:50 pm, Elwyn wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 Jan 2005 19:13, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software items.
   One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the other is an
   almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix Bible Software.
   Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is the method included in
   MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for your help.
   Andy
 
  Aren't these Windows applications?
  derek

 Yep, sounds like it. Like Derek said there are other bits of software out
 there to do some of that.  With the Bible software I'm not sure. It's
 usually engineered for a Windows environment.

 You might manage with Cross Office... But I don't have that installed
 anymore as it was effectively a small security hole :( Among other
 things

 Elwyn
there are RPMs for bibletime-1.4.1-3mdk.i586 that a properly configured urpmi 
should give you. 
as much as I am sure you like forte, give pan a try (kicks forte's agent to 
the curb)
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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-19 Thread John Layt
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:03, Pablo Ortuzar wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 January 2005 20:13, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software items.
   One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the other is an
   almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix Bible Software.
   Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is the method included in
   MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for your help.
   Andy
 
  Aren't these Windows applications?
 
  While it is possible to run some Windows applications under Linux using
  'Wine' to provide an adaptation layer between Linux and Windows apps, you
  will find it much easier to simply find an equivalent application written
  for Linux.
 
  Good resources to find Linux apps are SourceForge http://sourceforge.net/
  and Freshmeat http://freshmeat.net/ as well as www.google.com/linux/
 
  Having identified an application you would like to try you should then
  search for a Mandrake RPM package of it before resorting to compiling the
  application yourself.
  In many cases you will discover that the application is already on your
  CDs or available in online sources such as the 'contrib' folder on any
  Mandrake mirror site.
 
  derek

 You could try bibletime. It's included in the 10.1 PowerPack cd's. Click on
 configure your computer: you will be asked for your root password. Click
 on Software management and  then on Install; choose bibletime.en and
 accept all dependencies.

Bibletime (http://www.bibletime.info/index.html) is based off Sword 
(http://www.crosswire.org/sword/index.jsp) who provide massess of 
downloadable translations and aids.  Bbiletime apparently now has a friendly 
download tool for the modules.

For internet downloads, try KGet, which is an add-on for KDE, in the Software 
Manager ready for install, look under the menu at 
System/Configuration/Packaging/Install Software to see what you have 
available to install right now.  Then pop over to the Twiki to learn about 
configuring other sources of software for installation.  And best of all, its 
all free :-)

If you really must run Windows software the best option is Win4Lin, followed 
by Crossover Office version of Wine, but they cost money.  Just Google.

John.

 
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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-18 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software items.
 One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the other is an
 almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix Bible Software.
 Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is the method included in
 MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for your help.
 Andy

Aren't these Windows applications?

While it is possible to run some Windows applications under Linux using 'Wine' 
to provide an adaptation layer between Linux and Windows apps, you will find 
it much easier to simply find an equivalent application written for Linux.

Good resources to find Linux apps are SourceForge http://sourceforge.net/
and Freshmeat http://freshmeat.net/ as well as www.google.com/linux/

Having identified an application you would like to try you should then search 
for a Mandrake RPM package of it before resorting to compiling the 
application yourself.
In many cases you will discover that the application is already on your CDs or 
available in online sources such as the 'contrib' folder on any Mandrake 
mirror site.

derek
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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-18 Thread Elwyn
On Tuesday 18 Jan 2005 19:13, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
  I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software items.
  One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the other is an
  almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix Bible Software.
  Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is the method included in
  MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for your help.
  Andy

 Aren't these Windows applications?
 derek

Yep, sounds like it. Like Derek said there are other bits of software out 
there to do some of that.  With the Bible software I'm not sure. It's usually 
engineered for a Windows environment.

You might manage with Cross Office... But I don't have that installed anymore 
as it was effectively a small security hole :( Among other things

Elwyn


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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-18 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Tuesday 18 Jan 2005 19:50, Elwyn wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 Jan 2005 19:13, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software items.
   One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the other is an
   almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix Bible Software.
   Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is the method included in
   MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for your help.
   Andy
 
  Aren't these Windows applications?
  derek

 Yep, sounds like it. Like Derek said there are other bits of software out
 there to do some of that.  With the Bible software I'm not sure. It's
 usually engineered for a Windows environment.

Forte-agent is an offline newsreader, isn't it?  There are several of those 
freely available for Linux.  I'm sure one of them would feel comfortable to 
you, but you may have to look at a few to find the one you like best.

 You might manage with Cross Office... But I don't have that installed
 anymore as it was effectively a small security hole :( Among other
 things


I'm sure I have seen *some* Bible software, though I can't remember what.  
You'd have to google for that.  I do recall, though, that BibleWorks runs 
under Wine, so maybe you could google to see if your package will as well.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-18 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 20:13, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
  I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software items.
  One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download; the other is an
  almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos Libronix Bible Software.
  Is there a way I can do this on Linux?  Is the method included in
  MDK manuals anywhere? Thank you for your help.
  Andy

 Aren't these Windows applications?

 While it is possible to run some Windows applications under Linux using
 'Wine' to provide an adaptation layer between Linux and Windows apps, you
 will find it much easier to simply find an equivalent application written
 for Linux.

 Good resources to find Linux apps are SourceForge http://sourceforge.net/
 and Freshmeat http://freshmeat.net/ as well as www.google.com/linux/

 Having identified an application you would like to try you should then
 search for a Mandrake RPM package of it before resorting to compiling the
 application yourself.
 In many cases you will discover that the application is already on your CDs
 or available in online sources such as the 'contrib' folder on any Mandrake
 mirror site.

 derek

You could try bibletime. It's included in the 10.1 PowerPack cd's. Click on 
configure your computer: you will be asked for your root password. Click  
on Software management and  then on Install; choose bibletime.en and 
accept all dependencies.

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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-18 Thread Rick Kunath
Bibletime is a really great package.
It's available on the club in contribs and requires some Sword packages 
as well, also available on the club in contrib. It works with Sword 
modules, of which there are tons available.

I'll bet you'll be impressed with it.
Make sure you have your contribs mirror setup in urpmi, then install it 
from MCC.

Rick Kunath


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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-18 Thread Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 02:50 pm, Elwyn wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 Jan 2005 19:13, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 January 2005 17:41, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   I would like to install 2 third-party commercial software
   items. One is Forte-Agent 2.0 from an internet download;
   the other is an almost 1 GB program on a CD - Logos
   Libronix Bible Software. Is there a way I can do this on
   Linux?  Is the method included in MDK manuals anywhere?
   Thank you for your help.
   Andy
 
  Aren't these Windows applications?
  derek

 Yep, sounds like it. Like Derek said there are other bits of
 software out there to do some of that.  With the Bible software
 I'm not sure. It's usually engineered for a Windows
 environment.

 You might manage with Cross Office... But I don't have that
 installed anymore as it was effectively a small security hole
 :( Among other things

 Elwyn
Thank ya'll
Agent can be replace with Linux-based softwareand not lose much.

But the Logos Libronix Digital Bible Library ran me several 
hundred dollars and I use it quite frequently. There is no other 
comperable bible software even for windows OS. All serious bible 
software packages I've come across are win compatible and 
integrated with IE 5 or better. Libronix won't work well without 
IE6! Won't work with Mac either, as far as i know.

Anyone here familiar with Opera browser in a wine-based 
envirnment? From what I read (from Chris's post) Opera shoud work 
inplace of IE6. Don't know anything about wine - other than the 
liquid kind.

Opera has three choice: RPM packages type, DEB packages type, and 
tar.gz, type. Info at: 
http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=344 

Like Elwyn, maybe I'll be forced to run Linux and Windows both.

Is it possible to run both OS's side by side on split screens if 
my Win XP and Mandrake are both on what used to be C:?

Thank you all very much. You're a nice bunch. A major, huge help.
Andy


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Re: [newbie] Install third-party commercial software

2005-01-18 Thread Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 03:09 pm, Rick Kunath wrote:
 Bibletime is a really great package.

 It's available on the club in contribs and requires some Sword
 packages as well, also available on the club in contrib. It
 works with Sword modules, of which there are tons available.

 I'll bet you'll be impressed with it.

 Make sure you have your contribs mirror setup in urpmi, then
 install it from MCC.

 Rick Kunath


Thanks Rick and Pablo. sounds great. Your posts crossed my last 
one as I was typing (at least that's what I try to call what I 
do).

I joined the club last night so I'm not sure where 'contrib' is 
or how one uses 'contirbs mirror stup in urpmi'.
.
Anyone know if that's covered in the manuals?

Andy



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