Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-31 Thread Eric Huff
   KMail has a reply-to-list feature. Just hit the L key, or you
   can set up a toolbar icon. Useful for keeping my blood
   pressure under control.-- cmg
  
  I knew about the reply-to-list, but not the L key.  Thanks for
  the tip.-- 

 Actually, I didn't know about the L key thing myself until earlier
 today when I was answering your question and looked at the options
 in the Message toolbar heading; I've always installed the
 reply-to-list icon in the toolbar. -- cmg

It's been awhile since i used Kmail, but i think you can program the
whichever key you want to be list reply.  I thin i had it set up so
that the normal reply to key was actually the reply to list key. 
If there wasn't a list, it would default to the sender.

eric

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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 30 October 2004 15:15, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 Is it possible to install Mandrake 10.1 Official without the ISO
 cds? Or should I wait until the ISO cds are available for
 downloading?

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

The aboslute easiest way is to use the iso's.  They are not
available for download yet, but you can get them (4 CDs) here :
http://linuxcentral.com/catalog/?prod_code=L000-296id=C1CQEBKnWD3C
6

But, here is what I did :

1. As root, edit the file /etc/mandrakelinux-release and change
Community to Official. Save it.

2. Download kernel-2.6.8.1-12mdk form a mirror .I used :
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/official
/10.1/i586/media/main/

3. Install it alongside your old one. Re-boot into the new one.

4. As root : urpmi.removemedia -a

5. Go here : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

6. Define your sources for 10.1 Official, and proceed as
 instructed.

7. As root : urpmi.update -a  urpmi --auto-select.

8. As root : rpm --rebuilddb  update-menus -a -n  udpdatedb

That's all.  When comparing my new rpms to the ones on the mirrors,
it seems that I run 10.1. Official.

I actually don't know if step 8 is required, but it won't harm.

HTH
Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 30 October 2004 15:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Saturday 30 October 2004 15:15, Paul Smith wrote:
  Dear All
 
  Is it possible to install Mandrake 10.1 Official without the ISO
  cds? Or should I wait until the ISO cds are available for
  downloading?
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Paul

 The aboslute easiest way is to use the iso's.  They are not
 available for download yet, but you can get them (4 CDs) here :
 http://linuxcentral.com/catalog/?prod_code=L000-296id=C1CQEBKnWD3C
 6

 But, here is what I did :

 1. As root, edit the file /etc/mandrakelinux-release and change
 Community to Official. Save it.

 2. Download kernel-2.6.8.1-12mdk form a mirror .I used :
 ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/official
 /10.1/i586/media/main/

 3. Install it alongside your old one. Re-boot into the new one.

 4. As root : urpmi.removemedia -a

 5. Go here : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

 6. Define your sources for 10.1 Official, and proceed as
  instructed.

 7. As root : urpmi.update -a  urpmi --auto-select.

 8. As root : rpm --rebuilddb  update-menus -a -n  udpdatedb

 That's all.  When comparing my new rpms to the ones on the mirrors,
 it seems that I run 10.1. Official.

 I actually don't know if step 8 is required, but it won't harm.

 HTH
 Kaj Haulrich.

Kaj,
How long did it take at which (average) download speed?

That's what's been stopping me until now...the prospect of looking at a 
useless box hogging my bandwidth for a week or so.
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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Greg and Kaj. How long will it take to be possible to download
(for free) the iso cds? Does somebody know?

Paul


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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 30 October 2004 16:09, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

snip
 Kaj,
 How long did it take at which (average) download speed?

 That's what's been stopping me until now...the prospect of
 looking at a useless box hogging my bandwidth for a week or so.
/snip

Well HarM, I've got a T1 connection here, so the download of exactly 
302 packages took about 15 minutes, at a server uploading at about 
400 kB/sec (average).  But YMMV.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 30 October 2004 16:15, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Well HarM, I've got a T1 connection here, so the download of exactly
 302 packages took about 15 minutes, at a server uploading at about
 400 kB/sec (average).  But YMMV.

Mine maxes at 60Kb download...so that's simple arithmetic:)
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread Greg Meyer
List resend

You guys with gmail addresses are a pain in the neck ;-).  I know you cannot 
change the reply-to setting, so I only blame you for using the system, not 
setting it up properly.  This is the third time in the last twenty-four hours 
I have had to resend a reesponse to the list that I found in my sent after 
not seeing it show up on the list.  In every case, the poster was sending 
from a gmail address.

**Original Response Below**

On Saturday 30 October 2004 09:15 am, Paul Smith wrote:
 Is it possible to install Mandrake 10.1 Official without the ISO cds?
 Or should I wait until the ISO cds are available for downloading?

You can either download the entire distribution tree from an ftp mirror and 
install from hard disk, or you can install directly from the dist tree, which 
will only download the packages you are installing.

To do that, there is a floppy image that will boot and start the installation 
process and you just point the installer to the location that contains the 
distribution tree.   There are seperate floppy images for each kind of 
install you might want to do, hard disk, network, cd-rom (for machines that 
cannot boot from cd). There is also a small boot.iso which combines all of 
the features of the various floppy images.  Just burn it and boot from it for 
any kind of install.
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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:07 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 List resend
 
 You guys with gmail addresses are a pain in the neck ;-).  I know you cannot 
 change the reply-to setting, so I only blame you for using the system, not 
 setting it up properly.  This is the third time in the last twenty-four 
hours 
 I have had to resend a reesponse to the list that I found in my sent after 
 not seeing it show up on the list.  In every case, the poster was sending 
 from a gmail address.
 

Greg:
KMail has a reply-to-list feature. Just hit the L key, or you can set up a 
toolbar icon. Useful for keeping my blood pressure under control.
-- cmg



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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 30 October 2004 02:37 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:07 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
  List resend
 
  You guys with gmail addresses are a pain in the neck ;-).  I know you
  cannot change the reply-to setting, so I only blame you for using the
  system, not setting it up properly.  This is the third time in the last
  twenty-four

 hours

  I have had to resend a reesponse to the list that I found in my sent
  after not seeing it show up on the list.  In every case, the poster was
  sending from a gmail address.

 Greg:
 KMail has a reply-to-list feature. Just hit the L key, or you can set up a
 toolbar icon. Useful for keeping my blood pressure under control.
 -- cmg

I knew about the reply-to-list, but not the L key.  Thanks for the tip.
-- 
/g


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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 30 October 2004 03:59 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Saturday 30 October 2004 02:37 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

 snip

  Greg:
  KMail has a reply-to-list feature. Just hit the L key, or you can set up a
  toolbar icon. Useful for keeping my blood pressure under control.
  -- cmg
 
 I knew about the reply-to-list, but not the L key.  Thanks for the tip.
 -- 
 /g
 
 

Greg:
Actually, I didn't know about the L key thing myself until earlier today when 
I was answering your question and looked at the options in the Message 
toolbar heading; I've always installed the reply-to-list icon in the toolbar. 
-- cmg



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